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    The following is an article that appeared in The News Pakistan in 2007 and was written by Rahimullah Yusufzai.


    The Afghans possess a strong sense of history. They are justifiably proud of their heroes, who are referred to as ‘qahraman’ in native languages Pashto and Dari (Afghan Persian). Most parents, even if uneducated, make it a point to name their offspring after some of those great personalities from the past.

    It was, therefore, not surprising that President Hamid Karzai named his son as Mirwais. Those familiar with Afghanistan’s history should know that Mirwais, a Pakhtun warrior from Kandahar, was the founder of the original Afghan state. Subsequently in 1747, Ahmad Shah Abdali founded the modern state of Afghanistan, which was built on the edifice created by Mirwais. No wonder then that Mirwais is revered by the Afghan people, and it shows when they commonly refer to him as Mirwais Neeka, a Pashto term used for a respected fatherly figure. His mausoleum near the city of Kandahar is often visited by grateful Afghans to offer prayers and refresh memories of their glorious past.

    Mirwais is a common Afghan name. Though Mirwais Neeka was a Pashtun, the name is not confined to Pashtuns and one frequently finds Tajiks, Uzbeks, Turkmen, etc named Mirwais in every part of Afghanistan. Such is the Afghan pride in this genuine hero who took the first strong steps to establish the state of Afghanistan.

    The Afghans are also proud of Mahmood Ghaznavi and Shahahuddin Ghori, the Afghan conquerors of India. Many Afghans weren’t amused when the government of Pakistan named some of its missile systems after Ghaznavi and Ghori because they consider them as their heroes and are possessive of everything Afghan. Former Afghan information minister Makhdoom Raheen, now ambassador to India, had used a different argument to oppose Pakistan’s naming of its nuclear-capable missiles after Afghan heroes. In his view, Pakistan was being jingoistic by naming its destructive new weapons after the much-adored Afghan heroes. It wasn’t a very convincing argument because Ghaznawi, Ghori and Abdali were all warriors and naming weapons after them wasn’t something unique. The reason for his opposition to the Pakistani move was none other than the Afghans’ possessiveness for Afghan heroes. Many of them don’t want to share those heroes from the past with other nations.

    The Afghan ‘qahramans,’ or heroes, aren’t always male. The name of Malalai as a popular Afghan heroine immediately comes to mind. She was the brave girl who took part in the battle of Maiwand, fought near Kandahar, in which the Afghans under the leadership of Wazir Akbar Khan defeated the formidable British army. She nursed the injured and gave water to thirsty Afghan fighters. She did all this in the thick of the battle and fought off enemy soldiers. Malalai of Maiwand as she is often referred to became a household name in Afghanistan. Every Afghan village and street has girls named Malalai. Being named Malalai instantly confers pride on girls and prompts every acquaintance of theirs to know more about Malalai and the battle of Maiwand. History is thus told and retold and memory of that memorable Afghan victory over the British troops is kept alive. Zarghoona is another Afghan heroine and there are more recent ones as well.


    During a recent visit to Kabul, President Karzai spoke to me about attempts by ‘inimical” forces to erase Afghan history. He didn’t name those forces but nothing was left to imagination that he meant Pakistan when he alleged that the Taliban during their rule omitted teaching of Afghan history and heroes from the school syllabus in Afghanistan. In support of the argument that the Taliban deliberately removed portions of Afghan history from the curriculum, he recalled asking questions about past Afghan heroes from two young men with vastly different backgrounds. One was his cousin Izzatullah, an expert in computers but not much familiar with Afghan history. The other was the nearly illiterate Abdul Wahid, who lost 17 members of his family in Nato bombing of a village in Panjwai district in Kandahar during a big anti-Taliban offensive last year.

    According to Mr Karzai, there were gaps in the knowledge of the two young men about Afghan heroes and history. He said Abdul Wahid, who was invited by him to come to Kabul to offer him assistance and share his pain after having lost almost all his family in the aerial strikes, knew about Mirwais Neeka and Ahmad Shah Abdali because their names were familiar and their graves were in Kandahar. But he was unaware of past Afghan heroes such as Ghaznavi, Ghori and Wazir Akbar Khan because he lacked formal schooling. More disturbing for President Karzai was the inadequate knowledge of his cousin Izzatullah about Afghan history and heroes. The reason for this as he saw it was the Taliban policy to omit texts of the glorious Afghan history from the syllabus when Izzatullah and other youngsters were growing up and studying at school. Mr Karzai felt this was unpardonable and the Taliban must answer as to how such a thing happened.

    When pointed out by this writer, President Karzai conceded that children of Afghan refugees were taught Afghan history in schools run by the Pakistan government with help from foreign donors in camps for refugees in the NWFP and Balochistan. If Pakistan wanted the Afghan kids not to learn Afghan history it could have changed their school curriculum in the refugees’ camps. Still Mr Karzai insisted that the Taliban policy not to allow full teaching of Afghan history in Kandahar and other provinces under their control was something deliberate and dictated from outside. There is no way one could remove Mr Karzai’s misgivings about Pakistan at a time when he believes Islamabad is once again backing the Taliban and undermining his beleaguered government’s efforts to extend its writ to southern and eastern Afghan provinces hit by Taliban-led insurgency. But if one looks at the issue differently, his concern about the preservation of Afghan history and heroes in the minds of the coming generation of Afghans explains the heightened sense of the Afghan pride in their past. And that is the reason that one comes across so many Afghans named Mirwais, Babrak, Zalmay, Malalai and Zarghoona.
    Last edited by Guest; 07-22-2010, 10:31 PM.

  • #2
    Isn`t it interesting in this text he mentioned ghori but not Khushaal Khan or Rahman Baba.....I appreciate the link, but question his writing style.
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    • #3
      I as an Indian have been intrigued by Pakistan naming its missiles after predominantly Afghan heroes. Though this article provides the Afghan angle to it, what was curious for me was that Pakistan used these names since these people were known as conquerors of India. What they conveniently forgot was that India in those days consisted of Pakistan uptill the river Indus. So the 'conquerors' were conquerors of current Pakistani lands as well!

      Not only are they guilty of borrowing the names of heroes of another country but those heroes conquered their lands and their people as well. How idiotically oblivious to history can you get? That's like Ukraine trying to spite Russia (hypothetically) and naming its missiles as Hitler or Napoleon....
      Last edited by KhalsaWarrior; 07-23-2010, 11:36 AM.

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      • #4
        Pashtuns in Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa and Balochistan are not taught this history. Instead, their history is focused on Indian politics. Pashtuns have their own unique history, which, though obviously related (since all history is related), is not only detached from Indian (and hence Pakistani) history in many regards but is looked at with a different perspective altogether. This is exactly why you have Pashtuns who, ignorant of their own heritage, have adopted the ideology and imported the enemies of (savage) foreigners.
        "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be".

        "Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives".

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        • #5
          Originally posted by KhalsaWarrior View Post
          I as an Indian have been intrigued by Pakistan naming its missiles after predominantly Afghan heroes. Though this article provides the Afghan angle to it, what was curious for me was that Pakistan used these names since these people were known as conquerors of India. What they conveniently forgot was that India in those days consisted of Pakistan uptill the river Indus. So the 'conquerors' were conquerors of current Pakistani lands as well!

          Not only are they guilty of borrowing the names of heroes of another country but those heroes conquered their lands and their people as well. How idiotically oblivious to history can you get? That's like Ukraine trying to spite Russia (hypothetically) and naming its missiles as Hitler or Napoleon....
          Pakistan has more pashtuns than afghanistan and these are pashtun heroes.
          Intezar che pa salgo sho no ta raghley
          Che me jwand pa dobedo sho no ta raghley.....

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Afghanlady
            Elaborate on that last time I checked they were taught about Jinnah etc.
            Yeah, they're taught about 'Jinnah, etc'.... that's what I said...

            Originally posted by Sher Khan View Post
            Pakistan has more pashtuns than afghanistan and these are pashtun heroes.
            Pakistan has more Pashtuns but the percentage of Pashtuns in Afghanistan is 50% or more whereas it's 15% in Pakistan. That is why Pashtun history is not taught to us.
            Last edited by Levanaye Zalmaye; 07-23-2010, 04:41 PM.
            "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be".

            "Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives".

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Sher Khan View Post
              Pakistan has more pashtuns than afghanistan and these are pashtun heroes.
              Fair enough. But weren't they conquerors of Punjab? Including Pakistani Punjab?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by KhalsaWarrior View Post
                Fair enough. But weren't they conquerors of Punjab? Including Pakistani Punjab?
                Yes , they were.
                Basically dr A.Q khan is a pashtun by blood . So thats why most of the missiles are named after pashtun heroes.
                Intezar che pa salgo sho no ta raghley
                Che me jwand pa dobedo sho no ta raghley.....

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Afghanlady
                  Pakistan lacks history, so they decided to use Afghan names.

                  Why would they use Afghan names?

                  Afghans are famous for conquering India about 11 times I believe. Ahmad Shah Baba was in Delhi ruling it for years. Now Pakistan choose names of Afghans so it can scare Indians like, "We are just like the Afghans so be careful".
                  Exactly my point. And their "we are the leaders of the islamic world" assumption often makes them forget their local non-Muslim heroes. Raja Daher for example was a local non-Muslim ruler of Sindh who fought with bin-Qasim and lost. Bin-Qasim is hailed as a hero in Pak history books but Raja Daher is portrayed as a wicked evil man.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Afghanlady
                    Back to you Khalsa, Afghanistan has a rich history. Pashtuns are the founders and Pashtuns have always been the rulers. Pakistan has a 60 year old history in which Punjabis have been dominated and have ruled the nation. Punjabis have also been successful by brainwashing people like Sher Khan.

                    You want to know what I like about Punjabis? they are educated. They bought a Pashto channel and they ask people like Sher Khan to start watching it because its a "PASHTO channel" all the channel preaches is We love Pakistan. we are Pakistani. lol.
                    I am aware of the rich history of Afghanistan and the historical connection with the sub-continent. Though Indian and Afghan exchanges were more military rather than cultural, and more of the latter invading the former than an exchange, but it was a very important chapter in the history of my country.

                    And yes I know about Punjabis, since I am one, albeit from the Indian side. And before you say it, I am not offended by any anti-Punjabi comments on the forum. I know at whom its directed.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Afghanlady
                      They always do that. They are famous for manipulating history. Ahmad Shah Baba Abdali the man who ruled India and Pakistan is not taught in schools but Jinnah is on the cover of there text books.
                      You are right. It makes no sense to name your missiles after them but not even according them due importance in your history. I doubt if most Pakistanis would even know that Abdali was an Afghan Pashtun.


                      You want to know why I respect Indians?
                      Please.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Afghanlady
                        The reason why I respect Indians is because Afghans ruled them as well. Ahmad Shah conquered India 11 times and I know many Indians who respect him. Sher Shah Suree was a proud Afghan(Pashtun) and what did Indians do? They built him a tomb and they respect him. What did Pakistan do with our Afghan conquerors? They name bombs after them.

                        Compare Tombs and being considered a leader to Bombs.

                        Sher Shah Suri the Afghan even is responsible for the first Rupee for India.



                        Indians respect Afghans a lot.
                        See, I dont wanna blow my own horn, but thats the beauty of the Indian culture, we assimilate and integrate whatever comes to us and wherever we go.

                        I am aware of the fact that Sher Shah Suri, an Afghan gave India its currency the Rupiah (as it was called in those days). And he's nowhere reviled in the Indian history in spite of being an outsider. Another fact, due do you know the longest Indian highway connecting Kolkata with Amritsar (originally extending uptill Peshawar) is named Sher Shah Suri Marg (also known as the Grand Trunk Road in India and Pakistan) as he was the one who built it?

                        Sher Shah Suri Marg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Afghanlady
                          No I did not know that. You taught me something new today.

                          What does an average Indian think of him?
                          The average Indian thinks of him just as he would of the Mughals, as rulers and kings. Some perhaps even think of him as more Indian than the Mughals because Suri is a common Indian Hindu/Sikh surname as well. I have an office colleague in India named Taranjit Singh Suri. Though I am not sure if the Hindu/Sikh Suri is connected to the Afghan Suri surname.
                          Last edited by KhalsaWarrior; 07-24-2010, 03:12 AM.

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                          • #14
                            However Afghanlady, I must add other Afghan conquerors like Abdali, Ghazni and Ghori are not seen too kindly by the Indians. They are seen in the same category as Attila or Genghis Khan for the West. Mainly because they came to loot and went back. Whereas others like the Mughals and the Pashtun and Turkish nobles stayed back and assimilated and added to the Indian culture. This aspect is valued more than just coming down, invading and carrying off the loot. Though this wasn't out of the ordinary in those times and was happening everywhere, I suppose you wont fault the average Indian for the fact the above three are not described in glowing terms in Indian history.

                            But I also must say that this doesn't mean that Indians hate the current state of Afghanistan or its people. If that was true we should hate Iran as well for Nadir Shah or maybe the Central Asian states for Timur. Or maybe the British forruling us for close to 200 years. But Pakistan takes care of all of our hate.
                            Last edited by KhalsaWarrior; 07-24-2010, 03:23 AM.

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                            • #15
                              KhalsaWarrior, I have a copy of An Advanced History of India (vol 1) written by R.C. Majumdar, H.C. Raychaudhuri and Kalikinkar Datta and I always refer to it for anything historical. I was surprised to see that they had positively described men like Mahmud Ghaznavi ('the breaker of idols') and gave him credit for his skills as a cavalry commander and a military tactician. He was not vilified the way Shivaji is in our Pakistan Studies books by being referred to as a mere thug.
                              "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be".

                              "Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives".

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