Arabization of Pashtun people

[randolph85]

bro, come to Kandahar and visit most mosques that are owned by Pashtuns and you will see they are peacefull owners. They don´t preach hatefull comments or don´t follow any political ideology. Those who preach about hate are mostly wahabits from pakistan. In Kabul Hizbi Islami has owned three mosques and all are in favour of wahabism. All of them in the pashtun district. The people now can decide to visit the mosque for praying or staying at home. Those mullahs are preaching about offensive jihad and get even nationalistic. What has nationalism to do with islam? these people are munafiq. Majority of their victims are refugee people. people send their children there to learn writing and reading. The government can´t do much because it would anger those Hizbis.

how can they be munafiq if they are simply being used and are innocent, like you have said.

[Bost Bastan News]

how can they be munafiq if they are simply being used and are innocent, like you have said.

the mullahs are munafiq. Not their victims. Gulbuddiin always used political islam like Taliban and their arab-pakistani masters

[randolph85]

the mullahs are munafiq. Not their victims. Gulbuddiin always used political islam like Taliban and their arab-pakistani masters

islam is political, so what exactly is the problem?

[HalloIsBack]

islam is political, so what exactly is the problem?

and this is the main problem!
religion is something private! it's just relationship between u and the god and not the issue of other people!

[randolph85]

and this is the main problem!
religion is something private! it's just relationship between u and the god and not the issue of other people!

so only secularism is allowed to be political? lol

how about secularism should be private, its a relationship between u and your messed up head and not the issue of other muslims.

[HalloIsBack]

so only secularism is allowed to be political? lol no

how about secularism should be private, its a relationship between u and your messed up head something new for me and not the issue of other muslims.

i live in western country and there is no place fo sharia
if you want such kind of state then go to a radical islamistic state

afg was never radical islamistic state this messed up ideology was brought by so called fake friends wahhabi who infiltrated your culture and used for own aims

but if you like this version of islam fine just go to them and live there where is the problem?

[randolph85]

i live in western country and there is no place fo sharia
if you want such kind of state then go to a radical islamistic state

afg was never radical islamistic state this messed up ideology was brought by so called fake friends wahhabi who infiltrated your culture and used for own aims

but if you like this version of islam fine just go to them and live there where is the problem?

live where? there is no shariah in afg.

[HalloIsBack]

live where? there is no shariah in afg.

i live where i'm in the western country

then i'm sorry for you but you can still move to king abdullah

[randolph85]

i live where i'm in the western country

then i'm sorry for you but you can still move to king abdullah

good for you, no one wants to introduce shariah to the west because that would make no sense. now stop trying to introduce godlessness to muslim lands.

king abdullah is more friendly towards kafirs than he is to muslims, you would have a better chance of being his bff than me.

[HalloIsBack]

good for you, no one wants to introduce shariah to the west wrong the salafi try it the whole time because that would make no sense. now stop trying to introduce godlessness to muslim lands i have never done cuz that would make no sence.

king abdullah is more friendly towards kafirs than he is to muslims, you would have a better chance of being his bff than me no thank you i don't like fat arabs i prefer weel-conditioned pashtun guy.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

how can they be munafiq if they are simply being used and are innocent, like you have said.

Pashtuns don´t understand Arabic. Arabs do. Arab youth in west are mostly fundamentalistic. On my first trip to Denmark in 2009 I saw mayn young Arabs. Islam is a strong weapon used by Arabs against Muslims to enslave the Muslim world.

How can Pashtun Imams in Afghanistan teach Islam without knowledge of Arabic How would they explain the Qur'an and translate it into Pashto without knowledge of Arabic?

[Badlun]

The presence of some peaceful Arabs in Afghanistan or Pakistan is not at all an issue but those Afghans and Pakistanis who promote Wahabism, Salafism, religious bigotry, violent extremism, Al Qaeda and Taliban and parties like Jamiate Islami, Hizbe Islmai, Jamiete Ulema etc who are for political Islam are the real danger who are adamant to wipe out Pashtun culture, music, dance, language and promulgate Arab culture in the name of religion.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

Pashtuns are innocent. They were just used by foreigners due the lack of education among them. They were manipulated and terrorized. People get sick by war. But it´s not only Pashtuns. Also Hazaras and other tribes suffer from these reasons. We Pashtuns just suffer the most because we still live between Pakistan which has a strong influence on us through Pakistani Pashtoosn and the more secular thinking non-Pashtuns whom we fear because of their ''pro-western'' mentality. We fear we can lose everything when we join Hazaras and Farsiwans but lose Pakistani Pashtuns but when we keep on Pakistani Pashtuns we will suffer still but have a bit control of what is happening and what Pakistani is doing in our regions. Slowly, we must take a decision what we really want. Do we want to go for Greater Afghanistan which will bring more damage and suffer to us but at the end we will be united or do we will leave that policy of the past that didn´t benefit Pashtuns and let´s join the peacefull Afghan tribes and share their lifes with us. Getting a better future without war. We decide how out future looks like. We have to decide now. Either now or never.

BOstan; you seem to know little about Afghan history; Pashtun tribes were killing each other right up until the Soviet invasion. The Pashtun tribes were fighting over land and territory and power. Hotaks were fighting against Durani, Durrani against Ghilzai. Even Ahmad Shah Durrani himself was a servant of a foreign Invader named Nader Shah Qoli to kill Hotaks and drive them out of power in Kandahar.

There are actual paintings of Abdur Rahman Khan's children pronouncing verdicts to torture and assault Hazaras and this has continued. The Pashtunwali custom is centered around violence; Badal and Aggression, things like Tura (sword) and Jang are extolled in the Pashtun consciousness.

You can argue that Pashtuns were tricked and manipulated but not because Pashtuns had no idea what violance was. Itw as Pashtuns already existing tendency towards violence and aggression that lead them to be manipulated by others in the first place. In Pashtun emphasis on having a huge ego is strong. So no it was Pashtuns who ruined themselves and have been doing so for years.

To try to blame others is just another reason why Pashtuns are always held back; because Pashtuns never take responsibility for their own decisions. This is cowardly and not being a man; a man takes responsibility for himself not make excuses.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

Arabs are child molesters and killers, looters, hypocrite people nr one. Everyone know this. The most fascist people on earth are camel and donkey-lover bedouins

That isn't the point are the Arabs that are in Afghanistan SPECIFICALLY child molestors? You're talking about THOSE Arabs, not Arabs in general.

Most of the men you support, call our heroes and consider having 'Afghaniyat" are known pedophiles

I have never heard of those Kandahari Arabs doing those things. There's no evidence or report about it. However numerous reports about Gul Agha Sherzai keeping boys as companions.

[pashtanajan]

One can believe in Islam and be a devout Muslim, but why must one adopt Arab customs and traditions in the process? Islam has very little to do with Arab culture, in fact it was a religion sent out to eliminate many of the barbaric customs of the Arabs of yore. Hence, I view the "Arabization" of Pashtuns with saddened eyes, for we must preserve the culture and language of our forefathers, although we must also discard of traditions that are uncouth and inhumane. Why not evolve and expand our culture and language instead of adopting the customs of another people?