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  • #61
    Look what has happened to the Maghreb. The Berbers, a great people with ancient history (Carthage just being a small chapter of their long history) got over run by Arabs. Their native languages are spoken only by a very small minority now. The Arabs mixed with them, diluting their gene pool, and now this world has less diversity and a people destroyed in the name of "Islam". Thank the Arabs for doing such a grave, unholy thing.
    Morocco, Tunisia and Libya used to be unique countries, with distinct culture and heritage, now they are a degraded version of the past.

    They did similar in Iran, thankfully not to such an extent though.

    (when talking about Arabs I mean the gulf Arabs. Syrians/Palestinians/Iraqis do not act in this cancerous nature)
    Last edited by Arachosia; 01-05-2015, 03:18 PM.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Arachosia View Post
      Look what has happened to the Maghreb. The Berbers, a great people with ancient history (Carthage just being a small chapter of their long history) got over run by Arabs. Their native languages are spoken only by a very small minority now. The Arabs mixed with them, diluting their gene pool, and now this world has less diversity a people destroyed in the name of "Islam". Thank the Arabs for doing such a grave, unholy thing.
      Morocco, Tunisia and Libya used to be unique countries, with distinct culture and heritage, now they are a degraded version of the past.

      They did similar in Iran, thankfully not to such an extent though.

      (when talking about Arabs I mean the gulf Arabs. Syrians/Palestinians/Iraqis do not act in this cancerous nature)
      The same thing happened to Pashtuns. Arabization and Islamism totally destroyed the thousands years old pristine Pashtun culture and way of life.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Kushan Prince View Post
        There are a sizable amount of Arabs in Afghanistan i mean Hamid Karai's wife who is a Querashi, is a Pashtunized Arab from Kandahar. I think that number is a bit of though, 60,000 sounds to high. Arab didn't really contribute to the gene pool of Afghans, if they did we would find some J1 Pashtuns.

        But why do you hate Arabs? they are our Muslim brothers.
        Anyone can become Muslim in One second...nothing special about such "Brotherhood" ....

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Nm2017 View Post
          Anyone can become Muslim in One second...nothing special about such "Brotherhood" ....
          That's exactly why it's special. There's no elitist requirement, if you align with what it says, and bear witness. You're in. It doesn't matter who your dad was or wasn't , which tribe you belong to. This is actually one of the benefits Islam has over Pre-Islamic Persian culture which was based on such shallow dividing lines.

          Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."


          Originally posted by ذو الفقار
          don’t try to be smart.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Iblis_Efreetzai View Post
            That's exactly why it's special. There's no elitist requirement, if you align with what it says, and bear witness. You're in. It doesn't matter who your dad was or wasn't , which tribe you belong to. This is actually one of the benefits Islam has over Pre-Islamic Persian culture which was based on such shallow dividing lines.
            Muslim "Brotherhood" is bullocks...today Arabs might be powerless people in the world, but since Islam was born it has empowered Arabs, made their culture, language, race dominant over the non-Arabs...this is a fact we cannot Run away from. i am not necessarily against Islam as a religion, but at the same time, lets not forget the Arabs did colonialism before euros ventured of europe...there was a Arab slave trade too Before Euros caught on to IT...

            The world cannot be united, humans are too differnt in every aspect, this is not something bad though, ...even if we made all of the World the same in language, culture, race (unless the arrival of a bigger enemy that is a threat to all ) the reality is that humans are tribal by nature, there is an innate desire to form separate smaller groups (ei. Pashtuns having their various tribes), and stand out, and as such race, culture, language, history, common Heritage/heritage etc matter much More than religion...

            Me personally As a Farsiwan ( Sunni muslim) I feel closer to Persians in Iran (shia muslim) than I do with Arabs ( Sunni muslim)...where I live, non-westernized Persian Iranians and Farsiwan Afghans are very close, intermarriage, etc. but we have nothing in common with the Arabs except religion...the looks, the behavior, mentality, etc. is completely different...

            Muslim caliphate during its height only benefitted Arabs...as the entire thing is an Arab concept...

            Some previous posters also said that many Arabs think they are above non-Arab muslims because they are the people of the prophet...or feel acknowledged when they Find out someone that doesnt Look Arab but is a Muslim, has an Arab name, etc. There is also this whole stupid Sayed concept you have in Places like Afghanistan, Pakistan, India, as well stupid people putting Arabs/the prophet on some pedestal...

            All this said I Don't advocate Afghans to move away from Islam, as but we should make distance between following Islam and Arabs...Muslim way of Life =/= Arab way of life/culture

            Too much muslim "Brotherhood" with Arabs have ****ed up our country as Arabs (Osama Bin Laden, Al Qaeda, Isis, etc.) have been using this false muslim "brotherhood" to fool our youth to fight for their causes/ideologies...







            Muslim "brotherhood" is a cancer to non-Arab Muslims...
            Last edited by Nm2017; 04-10-2017, 09:55 AM.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Nm2017 View Post
              Muslim "Brotherhood" is bullocks...today Arabs might be powerless people in the world, but since Islam was born it has empowered Arabs, made their culture, language, race dominant over the non-Arabs...this is a fact we cannot Run away from. i am not necessarily against Islam as a religion, but at the same time, lets not forget the Arabs did colonialism before euros ventured of europe...there was a Arab slave trade too Before Euros caught on to IT...
              Maybe, but to suggest that this was planned as some agenda is hyperbolic and conspiratorial. The Arabs were just nomadic desert tribes, they didn't have many ambitions. Even at the turn of the Ottoman's. The Arabs, at least as a population didn't seem to have any interest in ruling empires or expanding. The fact that Arabic became dominant languages in N. Africa and such has many explanations, but it is more a consequence of incidence than a planned strategy.

              This is what separates colonialism from the expanse of Islam. There was no plan to bring Arabs territory, just spread Islam. On the other hand with colonialism there was a plan to bring the colonizers territory, sack resources and such.

              Whether Muslims themselves practice what they preach, doesn't make the clear fact that Islam at least in its precepts, is superior than something that decides your merits based on your tribal or regional affiliations. It's the merit of the individual and their choices that take precedence. People always do things that run contrary to the values they claim, doesn't invalidate the merit of those values though.

              You're peddling outdated 2007-level Perso-national rants, these have been debunked. Move with the times bro.
              Last edited by Iblis_Efreetzai; 04-10-2017, 11:39 AM.

              Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."


              Originally posted by ذو الفقار
              don’t try to be smart.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Nm2017 View Post
                There is also this whole stupid Sayed concept you have in Places like Afghanistan, Pakistan, India, as well stupid people putting Arabs/the prophet on some pedestal...
                Brother, as Muslims, there is no argument. The prophet (pbh), as well as all the other prophets are on a pedestal. They are and were better than any of us humans. That is why they were prophets. The same is of course not true for every Arab.
                Last edited by Charsi Malang; 04-22-2017, 07:39 PM. Reason: Typo

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Nm2017 View Post
                  . Arabs (Osama Bin Laden, Al Qaeda, Isis, etc.) have been using this false muslim "brotherhood" to fool our youth to fight for their causes/ideologies...
                  This reminds me of an interview khyber tv did with a tribal malik from mohmand who formed the aman lashkar against the taliban over there and in the interview you can see how much he lives arabs when he says "the arabs are told by the taliban that these are americans when really its just pakistanis" and at that moment i realised that pashtuns are have been used far too much. This guys homeland was being bombed by the arabs in the TTP and this guy is fukin tryin to justify it by saying they were told something else
                  You can watch the interview here(he asks the question at 8:12):
                  DA AMAN LASHKAR SPECIAL Interview With Malik Sultan Part 1/3 - YouTube

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