You're not Afghan if you're not Pashtun

[Pukhtoon]

Telling someone to not be bay adab doesn't make you a mullah.

Secondly, your extremely sensitive. Do you understand your insulting yourself by saying I use "big words?" This is normal English, it's nothing fancy - your just ultra sensitive and very immature, honestly. You truly don't think the way you talk is juvenile? I mentioned this twice already, you have my messages, feel free to respond. This is the last time I will speak on it, have some adab.

[Kushan Prince]

Telling someone to not be bay adab doesn't make you a mullah.

Secondly, your extremely sensitive. Do you understand your insulting yourself by saying I use "big words?" This is normal English, it's nothing fancy - your just ultra sensitive and very immature, honestly. You truly don't think the way you talk is juvenile? I mentioned this twice already, you have my messages, feel free to respond. This is the last time I will speak on it, have some adab.

Huh what? Me sensitive? Naw I'm not sensitive lol, if I was i would have lost my cool and would be cussing at you left and right. I think your the sensitive one since you were the one writing nonsensical paragraphs about how offended you were by an opinion in the previous thread. And stop sending me PM's it makes you look desperate for attention.

[Kushan Prince]

Telling someone to not be bay adab doesn't make you a mullah.

Secondly, your extremely sensitive. Do you understand your insulting yourself by saying I use "big words?" This is normal English, it's nothing fancy - your just ultra sensitive and very immature, honestly. You truly don't think the way you talk is juvenile? I mentioned this twice already, you have my messages, feel free to respond. This is the last time I will speak on it, have some adab.

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Oh and one more thing...

[Pakwatan]

To begin, Eid Mubarak/Akhtar day Mubarak sah.

That being said, I don't know what your getting at or what broader point your trying to make here. Nothing disqualifies a person Islamically from saying such and such is of this tribe, such and such is of that land. When you classify anything, including inclusion in a race/ethnicity, there are qualifiers and rubrics for it like language, heritage, etc. Not dissimilar from how someone would or wouldn't be considered Pakistani, i.e., residency card, allegiance to country, knowledge of national language, food, culture, etc.

Moreover, many figures in Islam were known by their tribe or country/ethnicity. Only when you judge people as better or worse based on these traits is when impermissbility creeps in.

No disrespect intended, but introspection goes both ways - you have mentioned your a "proud daal khor," which is a term, rightly or wrongly, denoting Pakistanis, you have self-identified as Pakistani, your username says "Pakwatan" which probably implies Pakistan or Pakistan being a "paak" (clean) watan, etc. all of which imply hints of nationalism.

I am a very proud daal khor. Anything I get to eat is addressed with Bismillah. I am not targeting people for being proud of their tribes.

I am simply saying, that when you divide and then further divide,there comes a point.

We are all people. Everyone must get equal respect.

My friend, I will speak to you truthfully since you understand logic.

Being born into a family is not an accomplishment, but rather a circumstance. I never asked my father or mother to bring me into this world. So what pride is there to have when you were at the mercy of your inception? NONE.

People judge you based on the things that you can control. Your manners, your actions, and your honesty.

Feeling entitled or banking on the accomplishments of your ancestors is laughable. One should do something to make their ancestors proud as opposed to adding a zai or khan, or even chaudhry to their surname.

Otherwise, the pride we feel is just an empty shell.

[Manzareh]

This topic keeps coming up over and over again

[pashtanajan]

No, all people who reside in Afghanistan, have ancestry in Afghanistan, and wish for the unity of Afghanistan and the betterment of Afghanistan are Afghans.

Pashtun is synonymous with Afghan, but Afghan can be used as one's nationality as well. For instance, I am a Canadian Afghan. Why can't then the minorities in Afghanistan be Afghan Hazaras, or Afghan Uzbeks?

[Pukhtoon]

I am a very proud daal khor. Anything I get to eat is addressed with Bismillah. I am not targeting people for being proud of their tribes.

I am simply saying, that when you divide and then further divide,there comes a point.

We are all people. Everyone must get equal respect.

My friend, I will speak to you truthfully since you understand logic.

Being born into a family is not an accomplishment, but rather a circumstance. I never asked my father or mother to bring me into this world. So what pride is there to have when you were at the mercy of your inception? NONE.

People judge you based on the things that you can control. Your manners, your actions, and your honesty.

Feeling entitled or banking on the accomplishments of your ancestors is laughable. One should do something to make their ancestors proud as opposed to adding a zai or khan, or even chaudhry to their surname.

Otherwise, the pride we feel is just an empty shell.

I understand your post but not how it relates to the original point or the rest of the thread, at a minimum my post at least. If its about nationalism and avoiding division, I think the same points I made, like your username, self-identification as Pakistani, etc. means you suffer from the same problem your trying to stamp out, creating divisions amongst people based on, in this case, your nationality.

I mentioned the daal khor thing only as an example of nationalism, i.e., denoting Pakistani, a division based on nationality, not for any other purpose.

About entitlement, the only entitlement issues I read on the thread was about claim to land and even from an Islamic perspective, ownership of property is wrought with claims of entitlement and entitlement based on lineage so I think its not wholly unIslamic as your post kind of implies. Also, although Pashtoons do laud there past generations accomplishments, we do it as Muslims all the time so I don't know that its improper so long as the substance of what they are lauding is proper. Whether a previous accomplishment is laudable and the other not is a different discussion I believe.

As to pride associated with lineage, I also don't believe it is unIslamic in and of itself. Scholars constantly talk about the Rasul (pbuh) being from a noble lineage and other members of the Sahaba (ra) and their offspring. So pride in your ancestry isn't something unIslamic in and of itself, it only becomes so, from what I understand, as I mentioned in the previous post, when it becomes a reason for feeling you are better then others as a human being.

I believe your misinterpreting most of this thread, which admittedly is inter-laced with negativity, as something that it is not - its mostly about classifying who is Afghan, what the name denotes, and what rules there are for inclusion. Whether inclusion or exclusion makes you better or worse then others is a different topic, and I don't think one blatantly expressed here (albeit there may be those undertones).