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  • #226
    Originally posted by khushal View Post
    Your second source states the following:


    So this proves my point. someone forcing a woman to marry them is shamefull in pashtun society therefore pashtunwali would condenm this. The problem is that there is no enforcement agency to enforce pashtunwali. Like I said your putting blame in the wrong place.


    the section you quoted doesn't allude to your interpretation what so ever AT ALL; it's just a commentary about the dichotomy of honor and shame.

    No proof at all .....proof means that it describes EXACTLY what you were talking about, not some vague statement which you spin doctor your own interpolations on
    [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

    2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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    • #227
      Originally posted by khushal View Post
      Pashtuns will embrace anyone.


      There you go then ...you defeated your own argument then. Your divorced Masher is an irrelevant "goal post" change


      stop doing that....stick to your original preconditions
      [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

      2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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      • #228
        Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
        THE WHOLE quote , try again and THE LINK please
        What is this a game? You are not good at backtracking are you?
        It isn't; that's what Pashtunwali teaches; in Islam only Nabi(saw) did this, but Aisha(ra) was exceptionally mature and an exceptional woman. Islamic Law requires physical and mental maturity. It is not aged defined; but the MINIMAL age of marriage is after puberty. But this can vary individually. But they must be Baligh or else the marriage is not Ja'iz.

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        • #229
          Originally posted by khushal View Post
          what is this a game? You are not good at backtracking are you?


          the whole thing ...with the link ....
          [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

          2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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          • #230
            Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
            the section you quoted doesn't allude to your interpretation what so ever AT ALL; it's just a commentary about the dichotomy of honor and shame.

            No proof at all .....proof means that it describes EXACTLY what you were talking about, not some vague statement which you spin doctor your own interpolations on
            But thats what pashtunwali is, your own source confirms what I have been saying: You also claimed that pashtunwali promotes pedastry which is also false since that is also considered shameful.

            Checkmate.

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            • #231
              Originally posted by khushal View Post
              But thats what pashtunwali is, your own source confirms what I have been saying: You also claimed that pashtunwali promotes pedastry which is also false since that is also considered shameful.

              Checkmate.


              No the part of the source has nothing to do with women being forced in marriage to akhshe

              in fact it HAS NOTHING to do with it ...like AT ALL...are you ok there guy? seriously that quote had no reference to women being forced to marry their brother in law.


              Pashtun culture does promote pedastry; that was proven by a study ....don't go swerving to every topic as a smokescreen,that tactic won't work here.
              [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

              2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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              • #232
                aaaah ok here we go I found the ENTIRE QUOTE

                Originally posted by Badlun
                Why marrying a 9 years old girls is called to be sunna and an act of virtue???????????????

                Then I wrote this
                Originally posted by Revolution Through Reason
                It isn't; that's what Pashtunwali teaches; in Islam only Nabi(saw) did this, but Aisha(ra) was exceptionally mature and an exceptional woman. Islamic Law requires physical and mental maturity. It is not aged defined; but the MINIMAL age of marriage is after puberty. But this can vary individually. But they must be Baligh or else the marriage is not Ja'iz.
                I was responding to Badlun's claim that it's something promoted and accepted in Islam s a "virtue" ; and explained to him the concept of Baligha

                No back peddling at all ...you're QUOTE mining to misrepresent context.
                [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                • #233
                  Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
                  No the part of the source has nothing to do with women being forced in marriage to akhshe

                  in fact it HAS NOTHING to do with it ...like AT ALL...are you ok there guy? seriously that quote had no reference to women being forced to marry their brother in law.


                  Pashtun culture does promote pedastry; that was proven by a study ....don't go swerving to every topic as a smokescreen,that tactic won't work here.
                  no your wrong, the problem is that there is no strong enforcement mechanism which is a side effect of being in an autonomous society. You have not been there is you can not comprehend this. You are imagining america which has a very strong enforcement mechanism in place and afghanistan which has no enforcement mechanism in the rural areas that is why Karzai is regarded as the mayor of Kabul.

                  what study are you talking about?

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                  • #234
                    Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
                    No back peddling at all ...you're QUOTE mining to misrepresent context.
                    Im not quote mining. you used the word teach which is false and then you lied an said you never said teach.

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                    • #235
                      Originally posted by khushal View Post
                      Im not quote mining. you used the word teach which is false and then you lied an said you never said teach.

                      you totally were; you originally posted just a segment ..and then you didn't post what the statement was related to.

                      That is QUOTE mining.

                      And what I said falls exactly with my quote
                      no wonder you keep trying to serve to other subjects; weak strategy ...pathetic.
                      Last edited by RevolutionThroughReason; 02-18-2013, 03:03 AM.
                      [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                      2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                      • #236
                        Originally posted by khushal View Post
                        no your wrong, the problem is that there is no strong enforcement mechanism which is a side effect of being in an autonomous society. You have not been there is you can not comprehend this. You are imagining america which has a very strong enforcement mechanism in place and afghanistan which has no enforcement mechanism in the rural areas that is why Karzai is regarded as the mayor of Kabul.

                        what study are you talking about?


                        That is YOUR OPINION ....a mere commentary and one most likely made up just to save face.

                        The papers relate the practices of Pashtuns ; both of these relate the practice of forced widow marriage to brother in laws. That research.

                        You lied blatantly
                        [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                        2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                        • #237
                          Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
                          That is YOUR OPINION ....a mere commentary and one most likely made up just to save face.

                          The papers relate the practices of Pashtuns ; both of these relate the practice of forced widow marriage to brother in laws. That research.

                          You lied blatantly
                          Its not my opinion, What I said is in your own source:
                          Although the majority of the Pashtuns
                          adopted a settled lifestyle centuries ago, the tribal
                          spirit and other aspects of Pashtunwali can be
                          traced to their nomadic background. Since the
                          Afghan state originally emerged from a Pashtun
                          tribal confederacy, Pashtun tribes were favoured
                          with much autonomy and other privileges within
                          Afghan society.
                          I read your sources and no where does it say that that there is a practice of forced widow marriage to brother in laws. It is you who lies, you lied about that pashtunwali teaches people to marry 9 year olds and your lieing about this. Your a hypocrit.

                          Don't be scared, bring forth that study you keep referring to about pedestry.
                          Last edited by khushal; 02-20-2013, 05:17 PM.

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                          • #238
                            Oh yeah , That's strange, I was able to find it really easily. It must be a miracle ...or maybe as your other lies, you Never bothered to read EITHER article because you're lazy and in denial. So two independent sources confirming the same thing. One a Pashtun woman This case is closed.
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                            [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                            2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                            • #239
                              It says obligated. Obligated and forced have two different meanings. Your either stupid or intentionally lying. I know many widows whose brother in laws have not married them, no one is forcing anyone. The brother in law is responsible for her and her kids well being.
                              Last edited by khushal; 02-21-2013, 11:05 AM.

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                              • #240
                                I love when you respond like this ...grasping for straws because it leads to the perfect set up

                                also use a thesaurus sometime
                                Obligated Synonyms, Obligated Antonyms | Thesaurus.com
                                obligated  [v. ob-li-geyt; adj. ob-li-git, -geyt] Show IPA
                                Part of Speech: adjective
                                Definition: bound
                                Synonyms: bounden, called by duty, committed, compelled, contracted, duty-bound, enslaved, forced, indebted, indentured, obliged, pledged, required, tied, under obligation, urged
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                                [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                                2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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