Wht's ur's Tribe name

[Tjanaparh]

Dear Friend, Yes, my name means "Path", literrally the original ancient word was "Tjarana Parth" = "passed path", later it transformed to one word "Tjanaparh"=path

Tj is quiet specific as sound, so I actually don't really know to transcribe it - its a intermediate sound between J(like in Janana) and Ch(like in Chinar), so i wrote it Tj

[Kushan Prince]

Maybe deriving from the word Wazir, if they are musilms?

Yes they are muslim. But why they have last names like Waziri is beyond me.

[Friend]

Well i asked the meaning of your name from a girl here who is from Armenia.

[Kushan Prince]

Wow how absurbd! Wikipedia claims the name to of arabic origin. This is total BS i don't belive any of it!


"Wazir (Arabic: وزير) is an official title, meaning Minister in several West and South Asian languages. Its equivalent in English is vizier. The style comes from the Arabic word wezr (Arabic ِوِزر), which means "burden". Thus, a wazir is literally someone who helps carry a burden, by helping the head of the state get the job done. It is also used as a family name."

[Tjanaparh]

Yes they are muslim. But why they, lhave last names like Waziri is beyond me.

Isn't Vazir a kind of title like governor in Islamic countries?

[Bannuchi]

I would still like to find out what is the meaning of "Pashtun", where did your nation name come from? what may be the meaning?

Some linguists like Georg Morgenstierne say "Pashtun" derives from Parsawā-, the same root from which Parsi (and Farsi) also derives. This is the most likely scenario.

In other theories, "Pashtun" derives from Bakhtrian or Paktrians, the Eastern Iranian-speaking Bactrians, or it derives from Paktha, an ancient tribe from Paktia.

[Kushan Prince]

Some linguists like Georg Morgenstierne say "Pashtun" derives from Parsawā-, the same root from which Parsi (and Farsi) also derives. This is the most likely scenario.

In other theories, "Pashtun" derives from Bakhtrian or Paktrians, the Eastern Iranian-speaking Bactrians, or it derives from Paktha, an ancient tribe from Paktia.

The second theory is correct.

[Kushan Prince]

Isn't Vazir a kind of title like governor in Islamic countries?

I didn't know that until now.

[Friend]

Isn't Vazir a kind of title like governor in Islamic countries?

Yes in old times wazir was next to the president in powers and in authority.

[Tjanaparh]

I didn't know that until now.

I don't actually know if this title existed on Afghan land, but for sure it existed in the Sultanates westwards.
I have also no idea if the Wazir pashtuns name has any relation to the "Wazir" title.
I mean words may sound similar but have different origin, for example in my language "Vazir" is imperative of Vazel(meaning to run), so Vazir=Run!

[Tjanaparh]

Some linguists like Georg Morgenstierne say "Pashtun" derives from Parsawā-, the same root from which Parsi (and Farsi) also derives. This is the most likely scenario.

In other theories, "Pashtun" derives from Bakhtrian or Paktrians, the Eastern Iranian-speaking Bactrians, or it derives from Paktha, an ancient tribe from Paktia.

Well Baktrian sounds more logical and closer geograhically, on the origin of Parsa are also different theories I think, but if it has to do with Fars region, than it is for sure difficultly to attribute to Pashtuns.
Still this complicates it more, because my question was about the meaning of the word, but we arrived for now only on two potential derivates, where we don't know the meaning neither.


However at least it is easier that almost all call You he same way.
We are called by different nations in quiet different ways. Nobody almost call us like we call ourselves "Hay", in most languages to term "Armen" is used. Georgians say "Somekh" to us, other caucasians have similar words

[یاسمینه]

This is what I found:

http://www.pakhtun.com/index.php/abo...ashtun-origins

[Kushan Prince]

I don't actually know if this title existed on Afghan land, but for sure it existed in the Sultanates westwards.
I have also no idea if the Wazir pashtuns name has any relation to the "Wazir" title.
I mean words may sound similar but have different origin, for example in my language "Vazir" is imperative of Vazel(meaning to run), so Vazir=Run!

I personally believe it is pure coincidence. I mean look the name Khan. In Europe, it is spelt as "Kahn" and has a completely different meaning. I'm pretty sure Pashtuns were using it before arabs and didn't know they were using it.

[Naveed Niazi]

pirali khel

my tribe name is PirAli khel a subtribe of isakhel Niazi. Isa khel tribe was named after isa khan niazi a noble in court of sher shah suri. I have a question aren`t michin khel niazis?

[Niceguy91]

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