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    For those who don't know tribes and tribal customs of Afghanistan ,to abassinafghan

    NANAWATE WAQ
    Nanawati is the ceremony of pardon begging, which occupies and important place in the Zadran tribal customs. In every case, the par'h (blamed accused) sends Nanawati to his opponent. Nanawati in the case of murder is very heavy. When one is killed, the killer shall send Nanawati to the relatives of the killed and the later will honor Nanawati as the Narkh commands. No Nanawati is acceptable in the case of an assault on namus i. e woman.
    For petty offences Nanawati will be Spin patkey (mullah) taking as psa (sheep) to the plaintiff's house. For serious offences Nanawati consists of sending sipn patkeyan (mullahs), spin gieries and notables who carry psoona to the opponent’s house. Tor saray (woman) also go to the opponent's house with Holy Quran on their heads and implore his mercy through Nanawati which is never rejected. In a case of murder, the killer is taken along with Nanawati and put at the disposal of the relatives of the murdered whether to kill or pardon him. In such cases, the killer is usually pardoned.


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  • #2
    The killer is usualy killed, if not than other relative is killed, Afghans forgive really seldom.
    But that you can't know, becuase you are a paki puta LOL

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    • #3
      Every dead commie is a good commie shoot this kharkossan.... :-)


      Yeah i like you too...
      High achievement always takes place in the framework of high expectation.

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      • #4
        nanawatey===bribe


        sorry we raped your sister...yeah, here is a sheep to make up for it. no?? okay, how about we make that two sheeps?? NO?? okay, tell you what. we will give you 3 sheeps and in return, you give her to us so we can turn her in to a slave and then we forget everything that just happened. okay??

        PEACE!

        nanawatey...

        "To burn always with this hard gemlike flame, to maintain this ecstasy, is success in life."





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        • #5
          Originally posted by DaZahroJaam. View Post
          nanawatey===bribe


          sorry we raped your sister...yeah, here is a sheep to make up for it. no?? okay, how about we make that two sheeps?? NO?? okay, tell you what. we will give you 3 sheeps and in return, you give her to us so we can turn her in to a slave and then we forget everything that just happened. okay??

          PEACE!

          nanawatey...
          See that DZJ, you leave me no choice but to call you an idiot. Nanawata is basically due process. The accused has the right to face his accuser and make his case as being innocent or admit his guilt and throw himself/herself on their mercy. The victim has the right to ask for compensation depending on the crime. The victim also has the choice not to forgive the accused, In such cases where it involves murder or violation of namos, the accused usually have to leave or ends up dead. If the acccused leaves, the accuser if they have the means will pursue them, but if they dont they usually get the land that the accused leaves behind.

          The thing is Pashtuns in rural areas live where there is no government so there is no governmnet justice system. In modern courts there are two cases the accused faces in cases like murder. there is the criminal case where the governmnet brings charges against the accused and then there is a civil case where the victim sues the accused for compensation.

          There is also something we call "sayma" which is where the accused goes into someone elses home and asks for protection. In this case the protector has to go to the accuser and asks for evidence of guilt, if there is no evidence than the protector has to protect the accused with his life, but if the accuser can provide evidence than the accused has to face the penalty. This is what happened with Osama and the US.

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          • #6
            if they wanted to throw themselves at someone's mercy, they would do so with out the help of sheep or other forms of bribery. okay?? you go ahead and commit the crime but when it comes time to repaying, you know that taking a few sheep will make your chances of being forgiven whole lot better.
            you are the idiot for not knowing when you are being treated like a fool. okay?? that is for your first paragraph. i am not about to waste my time with the rest of your " blah blah blah blah.."

            "To burn always with this hard gemlike flame, to maintain this ecstasy, is success in life."





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            • #7
              Originally posted by DaZahroJaam. View Post
              if they wanted to throw themselves at someone's mercy, they would do so with out the help of sheep or other forms of bribery. okay?? you go ahead and commit the crime but when it comes time to repaying, you know that taking a few sheep will make your chances of being forgiven whole lot better.
              you are the idiot for not knowing when you are being treated like a fool. okay?? that is for your first paragraph. i am not about to waste my time with the rest of your " blah blah blah blah.."
              Its a good will gesture you moron. The sheep or goat is a form of sacrifice like during eid. Since you claim to to be a knowledgeable muslim, tell us why people sacrafice during eid al adha.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by khushal View Post
                Its a good will gesture you moron. The sheep or goat is a form of sacrifice like during eid. Since you claim to to be a knowledgeable muslim, tell us why people sacrafice during eid al adha.
                where did i claim to be a knowledgable muslim??

                i remember from when i was young. hazrat ibrahim was to sacrifice his son hazrat ismail and then he went with the intention of doing so and when God saw that he was actually willing to do that, he was told him to stop and sacrifice a sheep or a goat instead. i am not sure on the details since i studied it in 6th grade a long time ago but it was this desert and under hazrat ismail's feet where the zamzam water came from for the first time too.

                what does that have to do with killing people's children and then taking a goat to their house to make up for it?? are you suggesting that this pathetic idea came from God as in allah??

                "To burn always with this hard gemlike flame, to maintain this ecstasy, is success in life."





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                • #9
                  a crime such as murdering someone or raping their children should not have a justified solution before it's committed. a crime like that should be inexcusable and unacceptable. a cultural that has a justified solution for it a crime like that is welcoming and accepting it.
                  nanawatey or other norms as such is not something for us to take pride in or pass on to our future generations. that option should simply not be available.

                  you harm my family or my child and then expect me to have mercy on you because you brought a goat to me...i will slaughter you in front of that goat, not for harming my dear ones but for justifying it with some goat or money. it should never be okay for someone to put a price over the lives or honor of anyone's child.

                  "To burn always with this hard gemlike flame, to maintain this ecstasy, is success in life."





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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by DaZahroJaam. View Post
                    a crime such as murdering someone or raping their children should not have a justified solution before it's committed. a crime like that should be inexcusable and unacceptable. a cultural that has a justified solution for it a crime like that is welcoming and accepting it.
                    nanawatey or other norms as such is not something for us to take pride in or pass on to our future generations. that option should simply not be available.

                    you harm my family or my child and then expect me to have mercy on you because you brought a goat to me...i will slaughter you in front of that goat, not for harming my dear ones but for justifying it with some goat or money. it should never be okay for someone to put a price over the lives or honor of anyone's child.
                    Your a complete ghul. You did not read anything.

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                    • #11
                      I hate this part of the culture

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                      • #12
                        ^^thats because you dont understand it.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by DaZahroJaam. View Post
                          a crime such as murdering someone or raping their children should not have a justified solution before it's committed. a crime like that should be inexcusable and unacceptable. a cultural that has a justified solution for it a crime like that is welcoming and accepting it.
                          nanawatey or other norms as such is not something for us to take pride in or pass on to our future generations. that option should simply not be available.

                          you harm my family or my child and then expect me to have mercy on you because you brought a goat to me...i will slaughter you in front of that goat, not for harming my dear ones but for justifying it with some goat or money. it should never be okay for someone to put a price over the lives or honor of anyone's child.
                          I haven't come across any case where rapist were forgiven,but you people haven't faced tribal wars fought for centuries ,assassins ,broaddaylight shootings ....a guy some months ago was shot while he was eating by a boy as young as 15 for the family of the one who was killed had killed his grandgrandfather.

                          Assassins targeted even my relatives even the case was closed some 50 years ago,thank god their guns jammed and were captured,now we have to ask them why? Plea for forgiveness or we have to get our right through any means.

                          And also murder must be proven in this world many people died innocent,mistakenly.
                          One have not to pardon the murderer.
                          High achievement always takes place in the framework of high expectation.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Afghanistan2010 View Post
                            I haven't come across any case where rapist were forgiven,but you people haven't faced tribal wars fought for centuries ,assassins ,broaddaylight shootings ....a guy some months ago was shot while he was eating by a boy as young as 15 for the family of the one who was killed had killed his grandgrandfather.

                            Assassins targeted even my relatives even the case was closed some 50 years ago,thank god their guns jammed and were captured,now we have to ask them why? Plea for forgiveness or we have to get our right through any means.

                            And also murder must be proven in this world many people died innocent,mistakenly.
                            One have not to pardon the murderer.
                            Your dealing with a bunch of morons. They dont understand what nanawata really is even though it is explained.

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                            • #15
                              Three things are important to the afghans,

                              -Deen
                              -Namus
                              -Watan

                              If you not respond with naang,ghairat,don't call yourself afghan.
                              High achievement always takes place in the framework of high expectation.

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