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  • #46
    Originally posted by Shayesta View Post
    So Un-Islamic yet worth to celebrate it throughout your life? Nice...
    they do try to give it an islamic tint by raising somesort of janda in a sort of shia celeberation in mazar at the supposed masjid of Ali(ra).
    but it stays unislamic

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    • #47
      Any excuse for me to celebrate something, I will take it. Naway Kaal is no exception.

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      • #48
        In our household it was never really embraced like that. More of a farsizaban thing

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        • #49
          Originally posted by AbuAtheistAfghani View Post
          Every pashtun is an Afghan. Every Afghan celebrates Nauroz. If you do not celebrate Nauroz you are not Afghan, and so you are not pashtun. Of course I celebrate it. I am an Afghan/Pashtun!

          AbuAtheistAfghani,

          with regards, nowruz is not an Afghani event. It's late Zoroastrian festival. That is being celebrated by Zoroastrian ancestors of modern Iranians. But this festival spread other parts of world like in Central Asia, South Asia and even Northwestern China. It is also the New Year in Iranian Calenders. It is celebrated on the day of the astronomical Northward equinox which usually occurs on March 21 or the previous/following day depending on where it is observed. As well as being a Zoroastrian holiday and having significance amongst the Iranians. It has nothing to do with Afghans or Pashtoons nor with Islam.

          But, yes, I agree with your first part of sentence that'' Every Pashtoon is Afghan and evry Afghan is Pashtoon. No Doubt.

          Proud of being pashtoon.

          In addition, Atheism is also some practice of Zoroastrianism.
          No offense, it's true .
          Last edited by AfghanaShinkhalai; 01-07-2013, 03:47 PM.
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          • #50
            Yes, we celebrate nowruz or newai kal. We don't make samanaq or anything. Just celebrate with the family. Back in Nangarhar (where my mom's from ) there are a few 'melas' or festivals as well during Nowruz, and in Kunduz (where my Dad's from ) it's obviously more heavily celebrated.
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            • #51
              Originally posted by pashtanajan View Post
              Yes, we celebrate nowruz or newai kal. We don't make samanaq or anything. Just celebrate with the family. Back in Nangarhar (where my mom's from ) there are a few 'melas' or festivals as well during Nowruz, and in Kunduz (where my Dad's from ) it's obviously more heavily celebrated.
              I am also from the north (Balkh to be exact) so it's more heavily celebrated by Pashtuns there unfortunately. My family celebrates but I don't because it is a Persian thing and is unislamic.
              "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

              -Old Pashtun proverb




              "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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              • #52
                Originally posted by AfghanaShinkhalai View Post
                AbuAtheistAfghani,

                with regards, nowruz is not an Afghani event. It's late Zoroastrian festival. That is being celebrated by Zoroastrian ancestors of modern Iranians. But this festival spread other parts of world like in Central Asia, South Asia and even Northwestern China. It is also the New Year in Iranian Calenders. It is celebrated on the day of the astronomical Northward equinox which usually occurs on March 21 or the previous/following day depending on where it is observed. As well as being a Zoroastrian holiday and having significance amongst the Iranians. It has nothing to do with Afghans or Pashtoons nor with Islam.

                But, yes, I agree with your first part of sentence that'' Every Pashtoon is Afghan and evry Afghan is Pashtoon. No Doubt.

                Proud of being pashtoon.

                In addition, Atheism is also some practice of Zoroastrianism.
                No offense, it's true .
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                • #53
                  This is a reality that Nawroz is celebrated everywhere in South Asia, Afghanistan ,Iran and Central Asia. It is a spring festival with different names. Iranians and Persian definitely own it. Pashtuns in Afghanistan celebrate it with more fervor than Pashtuns in Pakistan. Persian speaking Afghans or non Pashtun Afghans celebrate it with more enthusiasm.

                  I wish Pashtuns everywhere celebrate nawey kal or sparley(spring) with more zest and zeal so that the influence of Wahabis and Salafis is diluted otherwise we will be fully inundated by the desert culture of Salafis celebrating nothing as on Eid day even they do not let you greet each other or embrace each other because they say it is Bid'a ( innovation in Islam)

                  TOLO MALGARO TA NAWEY KAL, NOWROZ AW SPARLEY DER DER UMBARAK WI

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by kakargirl View Post
                    Newikaal is celebrated by families getting together near or far, food is cooked all types of mewi are put out for guests. Its all to do with the beginning of new crops, the Lands are ready. They make dowa that this years crops are better.
                    I think kakargirl has hit the nail on the head.
                    Sparlai, nawa kal now roz is essentially preparation of land for farming societies of the world. That is why all people who use the solar calendar are or were farming societies. So it made sense to have designated months fixed to a season.

                    Non-farming people,like the desert bedu, many of native americans, use lunar calendar where the months move through seasons. Look at our islamic calendar; last ramazan was in late summer (where i am now) and this ramazan will be in early summer, and eventually it will be in the winter. It didnt matter to arabs if the month travelled through seasons, they just counted new moons to represent passage of time, very convenient for their needs.

                    Of course there were misguided sun worshippers, but its the marking of the season to prepare land and sow seeds that was crucial.

                    And what is good, is that beginning of the year is tied with nabwi hujrat, and not some convenient date of birth and now stuck with christian tradition of new year end of december. I am happy with many of our traditions.

                    Its a new year, bas, i am not making new resolutions or jumping over a fire, or painting eggs, or prepare mez for haftس, we just celebrate the beginning of a new year, its a day we will get together, of course eat and may reflect over what happened last year.

                    Nowruw mubarak, nawa kal umbaraksha.
                    Last edited by torkham; 03-20-2013, 03:10 PM.

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                    • #55
                      Nope
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                      • #56
                        This topic has come up previously.

                        According to Radio Mashal website, NowRuz continues to remain widespread.

                        نوروز اوله ورځ ده د کال چه د سپرلی اوله ورځ حسابیږی .د وخت د اهمیت په لحاظ شپه او ورځ دواړه مساوی زمان تیروی او برابری وی .د نوروز جشن تقریبآ دری زره کاله سابقه لری .او د نړی دری سوه میلونه خلک داجشن لمانځی. نوروز په شانداره مراسمو کی لمانځه کوی او هغه ممالک چه دا جشن لمانځنه کوی هغه افغنستان ،ایران ،بالکان ، قزاقستان ،تاتارستان ،ترکستان چین ،هندوستان ،پاکستان ،بنګلادیش ،بوتان ،نیپال ،او تبت شامل دی


                        Anyway, whatever people choose, here's a Nawey Kaal/Sparlay song to sit back and listen to:


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                        • #57
                          Zoraster was from Afghanistan, spent his life in Afghanistan, and created the holiday how could you says Pakhtuns shouldn't celebrate it.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by torkham View Post
                            I think kakargirl has hit the nail on the head.
                            Sparlai, nawa kal now roz is essentially preparation of land for farming societies of the world. That is why all people who use the solar calendar are or were farming societies. So it made sense to have designated months fixed to a season.

                            Non-farming people,like the desert bedu, many of native americans, use lunar calendar where the months move through seasons. Look at our islamic calendar; last ramazan was in late summer (where i am now) and this ramazan will be in early summer, and eventually it will be in the winter. It didnt matter to arabs if the month travelled through seasons, they just counted new moons to represent passage of time, very convenient for their needs.

                            Of course there were misguided sun worshippers, but its the marking of the season to prepare land and sow seeds that was crucial.

                            And what is good, is that beginning of the year is tied with nabwi hujrat, and not some convenient date of birth and now stuck with christian tradition of new year end of december. I am happy with many of our traditions.

                            Its a new year, bas, i am not making new resolutions or jumping over a fire, or painting eggs, or prepare mez for haftس, we just celebrate the beginning of a new year, its a day we will get together, of course eat and may reflect over what happened last year.

                            Nowruw mubarak, nawa kal umbaraksha.
                            excellent point, almost every culture celebrate Spring in some way especially agricultural societies.

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                            • #59
                              Never ever met a single Pashtun in my life (from Afg or Pak) who celebrated Noruz.
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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by torkham View Post
                                I think kakargirl has hit the nail on the head.
                                Sparlai, nawa kal now roz is essentially preparation of land for farming societies of the world. That is why all people who use the solar calendar are or were farming societies. So it made sense to have designated months fixed to a season.

                                Non-farming people,like the desert bedu, many of native americans, use lunar calendar where the months move through seasons. Look at our islamic calendar; last ramazan was in late summer (where i am now) and this ramazan will be in early summer, and eventually it will be in the winter. It didnt matter to arabs if the month travelled through seasons, they just counted new moons to represent passage of time, very convenient for their needs.

                                Of course there were misguided sun worshippers, but its the marking of the season to prepare land and sow seeds that was crucial.

                                And what is good, is that beginning of the year is tied with nabwi hujrat, and not some convenient date of birth and now stuck with christian tradition of new year end of december. I am happy with many of our traditions.

                                Its a new year, bas, i am not making new resolutions or jumping over a fire, or painting eggs, or prepare mez for haftس, we just celebrate the beginning of a new year, its a day we will get together, of course eat and may reflect over what happened last year.

                                Nowruw mubarak, nawa kal umbaraksha.
                                Pashtuns in general were originally a non-agricultural people and were traditionally nomads who followed their flocks yearly. If we are talking about Now Ruz, then it has ties to the Zoroastrian religion which accommodates sun worship. All non-islamic holidays (even b-days) are generally noted as haram.
                                "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

                                -Old Pashtun proverb




                                "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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