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    Is Pashto music losing its charm?


    The Pashto music industry seems to be in troubled waters as genuine
    singers who took an oath to music and believed it was an art, have now
    lost the spotlight. The Express Tribune spoke to Pashto artists to gain
    some insight on the present anticipated state of the industry only to
    discover that the passion and level of dedication to music has largely
    diminished.

    Pashto music has largely been inspired by folk music — there was always a
    message in the lyrics, depicting real life stories which the public could
    relate to. The queen of Pashto music Mashooq Sultan and many others
    including Mahjabeen Qazalbash, Hidayatullah, Gulraiz Tabassum and Gulzar
    Alam greatly banked on this. These artists still perform, but unfortunately,
    with changing trends in the Pashto music scene where the quality of lyrical
    content is evidently declining, they are left with a small audience.

    Earlier on, writers like Hamza Shinwari, Ghani Khan Baba and Saadullah Jan
    Burq wrote songs with deeply inspiring lyrics. Now, however, an average
    lyricist has forgotten the importance of meaningful and ethical lyrics and
    the fact that they have a responsibility towards society. Songs like “Za
    Bottle the Black Label Ym” and “Khudkusha Dhamka” are being written
    today, where the former track suggests “I am like a bottle of wine,” not
    exactly portraying a wholesome or meaningful image of society.

    Legendary Pashto ghazal singer Hidayatullah expresses his opinion: “Singers
    prefer songs which have good poetry, today’s music might be popular but
    it’s not meaningful.” He also feels the overall quality of poetry has declined.

    “Common people don’t understand what good poetry is — they just want
    upbeat music and this is exactly what today’s musicians are catering to,”
    he regretfully adds.While older Pashto artists put their heart and soul in
    composing songs, newer artists don’t seem to have the time. “We just
    come to the studio, where the song is handed to us and we record it,”
    says Iram Khan, a young Pashto artist. “In earlier times, artists would
    rehearse for a week, before recording a song,” she adds. Current singers on
    the other hand don’t put in the same effort, with computer softwares
    available to edit their work through which their music is recorded.

    “Today, Pashto music has adopted modern trends, which is a good sign but
    emphasis should still be on our own culture,” says Hidayatullah. “Old music
    was simple with a few instruments like rabab, sitar and the harmonium, now
    music has become very complicated with numerous instruments,” he adds.

    Along with this, Hidayatullah also disappointedly states, “Singers today are
    unaware of basic surs. Majority of these singers are not professionals –
    they lack experience and have adopted singing as a part-time job, whereas
    music requires full dedication and spiritual devotion.”

    On the other hand, another young artist, Raheem Khan, feels the music
    scene has not changed much. “The same instruments are still used,” states
    Khan who is not too pleased about it and would like to add a more hip hop
    feel to the music.




    http://tribune.com.pk/story/424823/i...ing-its-charm/
    ---
    To advise others is an easy matter, the difficulty is accepting advice -- since it is bitter for those who follow their
    own inclinations and desires
    .


    -Imam al Ghazali

  • #2
    It is getting weird with this new kind of pashto music,with mostly computerized voices....and female dancers in some videos it is disgusting,it is an insult that those people associate themselves with pashtuns.

    This is that i remember called music ....

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    Pashtun War Drums War Cry Afghanistan Paktia - YouTube[/URL]

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    High achievement always takes place in the framework of high expectation.

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    • #3
      I cannot judge the texts of Pashtun music, but I like the music a lot(except some sheap singers that use electronic voices and sing oonly repeting 2 words with some strange dancers, but this problem is global unfortunately, and I am sure Pashtuns are aware of quality of their music).
      Ա՜խ, ընկել եմ քար ու քարափ,
      Իմ սրբություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ,

      Ես ծովակ եմ առանց կարապ,
      Իմ էություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ:

      Ես անտառ եմ առանց եղնիկ
      Իմ վեհություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ:

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      • #4
        The Pashto music industry turning in to trash is not a global problem. It started in pakhtunkhuwa and is creeping it's way in to Afghanistan. Naghma and baryalai samadi are two of the few afghan sell outs who drop their standards and abandoned their audiences for popularity amongst easy to please fans. Nothing like being stuck in a car during a road trip and having to listen to 16 versions of a song containing lyrics such as "Gul ghundey jinay yema, speena khaperay yema.. Stargay sharabi laram, husun...bla bla bla" and good old "khudkusha damaka" Makes you want to break the window, stand infront a truck and die.
        Maybe toranmana can explain to us what we are missing on.

        I am no bird, and no nest ensnares me.

        non commercial would cost less if he was in charge himself which he plans on doing. right now it's n herat but soon it will be in qanadahar.

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        • #5
          With global I meant it happens not only to Pashtuns.
          Ա՜խ, ընկել եմ քար ու քարափ,
          Իմ սրբություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ,

          Ես ծովակ եմ առանց կարապ,
          Իմ էություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ:

          Ես անտառ եմ առանց եղնիկ
          Իմ վեհություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ:

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          • #6
            Originally posted by DaZahroJaam. View Post
            The Pashto music industry turning in to trash is not a global problem. It started in pakhtunkhuwa and is creeping it's way in to Afghanistan. Naghma and baryalai samadi are two of the few afghan sell outs who drop their standards and abandoned their audiences for popularity amongst easy to please fans. Nothing like being stuck in a car during a road trip and having to listen to 16 versions of a song containing lyrics such as "Gul ghundey jinay yema, speena khaperay yema.. Stargay sharabi laram, husun...bla bla bla" and good old "khudkusha damaka" Makes you want to break the window, stand infront a truck and die.
            Maybe toranmana can explain to us what we are missing on.
            Most new music is about sex,sexuality,sexism sung by some perverts.
            Which leads that many girls or boys think it is like in the Bollywood movies,they run away,then shot several times by their relatives for honour (such honour killings) and buried in a place where no one will find them.

            People say Old is gold,they had some meaning,it was art,poetry it was different and it had a greater effect.

            About these singers i can say one thing,what Mullah Bijli Ghar said : IF you see that they are dead piss in their mouths.

            Maulana Bijligar Part 2 - YouTube
            Last edited by Afghanistan2010; 08-23-2012, 11:33 AM.
            High achievement always takes place in the framework of high expectation.

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            • #7
              i heard a pashto rock song from peshawar recently, pretty disapointed.
              There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

              Sayyid Qutb

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              • #8
                I think in just about every culture faced with 'modernism', tradition gives way. Not that I agree with this all the time.

                Example: Bollywood. Up to about the 80s, music from Hindi cinema had a charm that was enjoyed by old and young on many different levels. Most the 80s/90s stuff was so lyrically poor, it would want to make you want to burst your eardrums. Just look at an 80s Indian film and try not to be embarrassed. Nowadays, with Bollywood going global - and even the dialogues being diluted so much with English, there has been a revival of interest both by the diaspora Indians and Indians raised in a technological age.

                And what does this say about Pashto music? I remember very well, my father's stone records of Kishwar Sultan etc., when it was a voice and the poetry/music only. Nowadays they have the technology to pre-record the instrumentation, and to digitally alter vocals and to generate cheap visual entertainment.


                Pop entertainment always sells more than folk or high-brow art. In places like Dubai, Nazia Iqbal sells more tickets than Abdulla Moqarai. He is still able to perform, but to much smaller audiences. In Europe there is a growing demand for Pashto performers who are 'new generation' i.e. they wear jeans and strum a guitar etc.

                I do not know where this will take us - if there is a decline in standards that is probably because much of this is commercially driven and the studios and DVD houses know this. Market forces you might say - supply because there is the demand.

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                • #9
                  most traditional music i have listened to from around the world, is lovely. i like all kinds of music though, for different reasons.
                  young people are exploratory with music or commercial. i have friends who play in punk type bands but their end aim is to play jazz or they play their own classical guitar or creative sounds with friends.
                  some of those clips of rap from pashtuns, i listened to today are good.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by tor_khan View Post
                    I think in just about every culture faced with 'modernism', tradition gives way. Not that I agree with this all the time.

                    Example: Bollywood. Up to about the 80s, music from Hindi cinema had a charm that was enjoyed by old and young on many different levels. Most the 80s/90s stuff was so lyrically poor, it would want to make you want to burst your eardrums. Just look at an 80s Indian film and try not to be embarrassed. Nowadays, with Bollywood going global - and even the dialogues being diluted so much with English, there has been a revival of interest both by the diaspora Indians and Indians raised in a technological age.

                    And what does this say about Pashto music? I remember very well, my father's stone records of Kishwar Sultan etc., when it was a voice and the poetry/music only. Nowadays they have the technology to pre-record the instrumentation, and to digitally alter vocals and to generate cheap visual entertainment.


                    Pop entertainment always sells more than folk or high-brow art. In places like Dubai, Nazia Iqbal sells more tickets than Abdulla Moqarai. He is still able to perform, but to much smaller audiences. In Europe there is a growing demand for Pashto performers who are 'new generation' i.e. they wear jeans and strum a guitar etc.

                    I do not know where this will take us - if there is a decline in standards that is probably because much of this is commercially driven and the studios and DVD houses know this. Market forces you might say - supply because there is the demand.
                    I agree with most of what you said esp the last statement. In old days, there was either folk or the highly structured classic music for the elite. Now with the transformation in society, you have people with different taste of music e.g., most of the urban youth would not be interested in classic or ghazal singing or even folk. One should also take into account the commercialization of art, global and modern influences, lack of resources and skills, the ease with which music can be made and made available on the Internet, etc.

                    There is also some problem with Pashtun vlaues, which attach stigma with being a singer or a musician e.g. most of the artists in KPK (including the giant like Khyal Mohammad) don't have good social status in society---most of the female singers are professional dancing girls illiterate and without any high self-esteem due to their status---mixing sensuality with art.

                    Then Urdu film industry has collapsed in Pakistan ---so the opportunist Pashtun actors like Ajab Gul who was trying his luck with Urdu film-making are now opportunistically and selfishly making cheap Pashto films and music to make quick bucks. Some non-Pashtuns seeing Pashto music to be a lucrative business are trying to exploit the situation.

                    New Pashto TV channels have also contributed to the problem e.g. in order to fill the programming time, they have tried to create singers.

                    Talebanization, Jehadism etc. have also struck a severe blow to Pashto music.

                    Pashtun society overall is not a sophisticated society to appreciate good art---most is still tribal, rural, agrarian.

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                    • #11
                      By the way, for centuries Pashtuns have been singing folk without any classic music. In the 1960s ghazal singing started with Nashenas, Khyal Mohammad, and a few others. I think things should change now---You cannot just hear folk for generations.

                      Both Nazia Iqbal and Naghma should retire now. Both of them don't know how to sing.

                      I think the educated youngsters are more creative---they are doing new experiments and have mixed Pashto style with modern instrumentation pretty successfully.
                      Last edited by Toramana; 08-23-2012, 08:19 PM.

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                      • #12
                        look at the beautiful jewellery, embroideries and traditional music, from the 'unsophisticated' society toramana. don't forget that the uncivilised also invented the musical instruments. that kinds of prejudice is not true.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by faye View Post
                          look at the beautiful jewellery, embroideries and traditional music, from the 'unsophisticated' society toramana. don't forget that the uncivilised also invented the musical instruments. that kinds of prejudice is not true.
                          faye, lol---these are by the way not real Pashtuns---I mean the true blue pure blooded Pashtuns with a Pashtun tribal pedigree----Yousafzai lords claim these were either the subjugated people or were brought by them from somewhere to serve them---

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                          • #14
                            Dear Toramana - generally folk music is one of the highest arts I think. And as I see Pashto music has very big possibilities to develop. Even only instrumentally. You have in Your region really great instruments with a unique sound.
                            Ա՜խ, ընկել եմ քար ու քարափ,
                            Իմ սրբություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ,

                            Ես ծովակ եմ առանց կարապ,
                            Իմ էություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ:

                            Ես անտառ եմ առանց եղնիկ
                            Իմ վեհություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ:

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                            • #15
                              Its going...down hill.
                              I believe the sun should never set upon an argument.
                              I believe forgiveness is the key to your unhappiness.

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