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What do you think about Pashtuns?
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19the crudest people of the region36.84%7one of the crudest people of the region15.79%3more crude less sophisticated31.58%6less crude more sophisticated5.26%1very sophisticated10.53%2can't decide0.00%0The poll is expired.
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How do you define crude Toramana?Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.
A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai
For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."
The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!
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He wants to say "not refined, conspicuously and tastelessly indecent"
But I think Pashtuns are simple, sincere, not organised individually and collectively. They are independent minded, don't want to be ruled by anyone individually or collectively.Comment
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It's a serious question and if we take the example of the masses and how they are portrayed in the Pakistani, Indian and western media then there is a definite stereotype.
There is an educated class who fight this notion of crudeness but until we have much more proactive media we cannot really control this negative image.
I can see why some Pashtuns, and in particular, free thinking educated Pashtun females, are drawn to the 'sophistication' of Persian or Lahori/Indic culture which is more relaxed. Controversial, I guess, but we have to look at our own behaviours.
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Toramana lala, considering the fact that you are a male and apparently much older than many people here, your using a little girl's picture as your avatar is creepy.Dark Vader Ghost King El Malo Camello Papa
Pro-Black is Pro-Righteous!Comment
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Please troll this Poll everyone.High achievement always takes place in the framework of high expectation.
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If we are "crude" in the eyes of the enemy, I am proud nonetheless.
I voted for "crudest people of the region".Dark Vader Ghost King El Malo Camello Papa
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so why was their province named 60 years by a british colonial slang ????He wants to say "not refined, conspicuously and tastelessly indecent"
But I think Pashtuns are simple, sincere, not organised individually and collectively. They are independent minded, don't want to be ruled by anyone individually or collectively.
why their was at the first place a pashtun dominated province in pakistan `?
why are their still people like YOU who obviously ,are very confortable to be part of a state which sellling their blood and the future of their children ???Comment
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says the guy who has the most creepy face on this forum LOLOriginally posted by حکیم خان اورګونی View PostComment
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Let' see your face.Originally posted by Khostai View Post
Maybe you fear uploading a photo of yourself because you know how ugly you are.Dark Vader Ghost King El Malo Camello Papa
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"I am beautiful no matter what they say, becouse word can't bring me down oooh noooo"Comment
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I am more beautiful.Originally posted by Khostai View PostDark Vader Ghost King El Malo Camello Papa
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2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.Comment
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I mostly agree with that perception but lean more on the side of "less sophisticated more crude". Whether in terms of social organization or the capacity to build institutions or intellectual or economic output or cultural or artistic creativity, our society has not been transformed much. We are still basically a rural people although there are some signs of a Pashtun urban class emerging.
One thing I can't understand is the Pashtun obsession with power---that also brute physical power. Fundamentally, a Pashtun is a power-seeker and an aggressive power-asserter whether in family or in public . As for I have observed Pashtuns pay little regard to "artisan" professions or professions where you exercise soft power. Even in traditional agrarian sense, you don't see many "artisan families" of "pure Pashtun" origin. This tendency also exhibits in modern occupational preference where Pashtuns would generally seek positions of power and authority.Last edited by Toramana; 07-23-2012, 08:08 PM.Comment
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