Language neccessary?

[KingOfAriana]

So ok, hi guys.
My name is Omed and I am an Afghan of pashtun origin, that speaks farsi and currently lives in the Netherlands. I myself have never been to Afghanistan, but speak the language because my parents were born in Kabul and yeah, everyone there speaks farsi and because I havent been to Afghanistan they have just taught me farsi. But i see many pashtuns on this forum saying that pashto is a requirement, the same goes with islam (I am not really, what you could call a muslim either, i am not sure if I really believe or not). But this is what I dont understand. Imagine: An arab with arab parents grows up in Scotland, and only speaks scottish, is he an arab or a scot? Of course an Arab, because his BLOOD is arab, the same with pashtun, so why do some people not agree that pashtun is a RACE or at least ETHNICITY and not a language or belief. A muslim hazara speaking pashto, is he pashtun? No, so why should I ( a proud Afghan nationalist) by some people, not be considered a pashtun? Just a question.

[Afghanistan2010]

do you want to give us all details about you ... ?

just the name of your beloved mother is missing than everyone can do blackmagic on you.

[KingOfAriana]

Lol, i am not afraid of anything, why, should I be?

[Afghanistan2010]

My young friend,this internet is very beautiful and on the otherside very dangerous,use it with consciousness and do not offer to much about you,everyone could use your details and buy bombs,you will go to jail ?!


lol alittle exaggerated.

[Al Hanif]

Because for the majority of people, ideas are always above racial links.

A white nationalist might love his race more than anything else but the very moment he mets a white who appears to be a liberal or a leftist, he hates him more than he hates Jews and Blacks.


Are you sure Pashtunness is a race ? Looks to me it's more like a social construct (you are Pashtun if your father is Pashtun). But Endogamy makes it practically an ethnicity.

So yeah, whether you are genetically a "Pashtun" or not is irrelevant in the real world except for your fellow nationalists (in the real sense of the word).

What matters is your ideas. Look at your country, two "ethnic Pashtuns" can be fighting for different ideas.





This was a terrible disillusionment for Soldat when he eventually understood that he will never be accepted as a Pashtun by the majority of Pashtuns.

He then became a Serbian Orthodox Christian.

Please if you change your ethnicity, become something original.

I don't know, like a Scientologist Mexican or a Baha'i Japanese.

[KingOfAriana]

Well, this is a pashtun forum so you never know. Anyway, those are punjabis with the bombs and so. I dont believe that taliban is pashtun btw. But lets not go off topic.

[KingOfAriana]

Because for the majority of people, ideas are always above racial links.

A white nationalist might love his race more than anything else but the very moment he mets a white who appears to be a liberal or a leftist, he hates him more than he hates Jews and Blacks.


Are you sure Pashtunness is a race ? Looks to me it's more like a social construct (you are Pashtun if your father is Pashtun). But Endogamy makes it practically an ethnicity.

So yeah, whether you are genetically a "Pashtun" or not is irrelevant in the real world except for your fellow nationalists (in the real sense of the word).

What matters is your ideas. Look at your country, two "ethnic Pashtuns" can be fighting for different ideas.





This was a terrible disillusionment for Soldat when he eventually understood that he will never be accepted as a Pashtun by the majority of Pashtuns.

He then became a Serbian Orthodox Christian.

Please if you change your ethnicity, become something original.

I don't know, like a Scientologist Mexican or a Baha'i Japanese.

I dont know what you mean, but my entire love goes to my nation Afghanistan. And I dont recognize durand line so pashtuns and baluchs, I also consider Afghans, ok yes i do hate arabs and pakistan (except my pashtuns off course, they are Afghans), but thats just the way it is. What does an arab like you do anyway on a pashtun forum?

[Al Hanif]

I dont know what you mean, but my entire love goes to my nation Afghanistan. And I dont recognize durand line so pashtuns and baluchs, I also consider Afghans, ok yes i do hate arabs and pakistan (except my pashtuns off course, they are Afghans), but thats just the way it is. What does an arab like you do anyway on a pashtun forum?

I'm not Arab. One day, maybe, when you'll grow up and read some books and educate yourself, you'll understand some things about the real world.

Such as how stupid it is to hate an entire race.

See, me, I've just met a Pashtun racist yet it doesn't make me hate Pashtuns.

[KingOfAriana]

I'm not Arab. One day, maybe, when you'll grow up and read some books and educate yourself, you'll understand some things about the real world.

Such as how stupid it is to hate an entire race.

See, me, I've just met a Pashtun racist yet it doesn't make me hate Pashtuns.

I am more pashtun than you because i dont call my self Ahlan wa salan +%ç& al something&%ç*. A real pashtun wouldnt have an al &@"* name in his username. So yes, I am a patriot, anything against it?

[IamDZJ]

language to an ethnicity is like a main ingredient to a dish. with out it, it's still a dish but with it, it's an excellent one.

[KingOfAriana]

language to an ethnicity is like a main ingredient to a dish. with out it, it's still a dish but with it, it's an excellent one.

Maybe, when I grow up and in the future live in Afghanistan, that I will learn my great language Pashto. But still patriot Pashtun till then!

[Friend]

I dont know what you mean, but my entire love goes to my nation Afghanistan. And I dont recognize durand line so pashtuns and baluchs, I also consider Afghans, ok yes i do hate arabs and pakistan (except my pashtuns off course, they are Afghans), but thats just the way it is. What does an arab like you do anyway on a pashtun forum?

You are a Pashtun though a Pashtun blood is running in your veins but at the other hand for becoming a real Pashtun you have to follow and adopt Pashtunwali first. Pashtunwali is a code of life. There was a whole thread on pashtunwali in this forum. So if you follow the rules and regulations of Pashtunwali then you are a real pashtun otherwise you are a pseudo pashtun just like there are so many pseudo Muslims around.

[KingOfAriana]

You are a Pashtun though a Pashtun blood is running in your veins but at the other hand you can't for understanding Pashtuns you have to understand Pashtunwali first. Pashtunwali is a code of life. There was a whole thread on pashtunwali in this forum. So if you follow the rules and regulations of Pashtunwali then you are a real pashtun otherwise you are a pseudo pashtun just like there are so many pseudo Muslims around.

I agree with most of the pashtunwali, only I dont know if I am a muslim or not. I mean i dont pray, havent read the quran, neither been to a mosque, but when we go to a trip, i still kiss it and I believe it is the right religion. I think it was isteqmat or so, trust in god, and thats what I have, so yeah. Pashtunwali4ever.

[Al Hanif]

I am more pashtun than you because i Dont call my self Ahlan wa salan +%ç& al something&%ç*. A real pashtun wouldnt have an al name in his username. So yes, I am a patriot, anything against it?

I am interested in the current conflict involving Pashtuns, I speak mostly in English on this website, I use latin alphabet, I have a Muslim Arabic username.

Yet I am neither Pashtun, English, Roman or Arab.

[KingOfAriana]

I am interested in the current conflict involving Pashtuns, I speak mostly in English on this website, I use latin alphabet, I have a Muslim Arabic username.

Yet I am neither Pashtun, English, Roman or Arab.

Uhm, maybe Sudanese or berber? they are all the same for me, maybe that explains the arabic name.