Pakistan

[TURK]

People of Pakistan are also not happy with the policies of govt. We also opposed blame game. As a pashtun and as a pakistani I always respect my pashtun fellows of afghanistan and afghanistan as well. I always felt a hidden feeling of respect for pashtuns in pakistani general public.
They like Afghanistan for their constant struggle agianst civil war. They respect them for afghan peoples struggle agianst soviets they like them for always helping Islam and muslim people of sub-continent in history.
But whenever I meet any afghan fellow he always shows anger and hatered against pakistan not against our politicians. your approach towards pakistan is not logical and analytical but emotional. I dont under stand why but I am very disappointed.

[Soldat_Amir]

No need for Taleban misoganists and their gehottoised sympathizers in the West---Pashtuns have always opted for secular set-up whenever they got a chance---who would like to be ruled by stone-age rules.

Before the "Peshawar Seven" ever existed, Afghanistan was ruled by a Secular monarchy, Daud was Secular, King Zahir Shah was secular, Najibullah was secular,King Amanullah Khan was secular, now lets see who was anti secular

1)Hekmatyar-Murderer
2)Sayaf-Murderer
3)Rabbani-Murderer
4)Ahmad Shah Masood-Murderer
5)Kala Khan-murderer
6)Mullah Omar-Murderer

the list goes on.


Now, compare the acheivements of these Anti Secularists with the Secularists and you will see what I mean.

[Soldat_Amir]

People of Pakistan are also not happy with the policies of govt. We also opposed blame game. As a pashtun and as a pakistani I always respect my pashtun fellows of afghanistan and afghanistan as well. I always felt a hidden feeling of respect for pashtuns in pakistani general public.
They like Afghanistan for their constant struggle agianst civil war. They respect them for afghan peoples struggle agianst soviets they like them for always helping Islam and muslim people of sub-continent in history.
But whenever I meet any afghan fellow he always shows anger and hatered against pakistan not against our politicians. your approach towards pakistan is not logical and analytical but emotional. I dont under stand why but I am very disappointed.

From what you just said I dont blame him showing anger. What constant struggle against civil war, you guys stirred up the civil war by arming your favourites and silencing the peaceful ones, and struggling against the Soviets, it was your people who with America meddled in Afghanistan and used it as a way to earn dollars on Afghan blood.

We dislike you and your society because your whole ideology plays a dangerous role on Afghanistan. You occupy Afghan land,and use it as a base to spread Militancy in Afghanistan.

The People of Pakistan are by far and by majority a threat to Afghanistan's progression.

This lefty non sense about Pakistanis are not all the same is mere non sense, I have never met such Anti Afghan people in my whole life, majority of Pakistanis support the Taliban and Al Qaida in Afghanistan because they know someone else will suffer but they will have enough people to use as soliders of fortune against India if a war happens.

If Pakistanis were so concerned and caring about Afghans, how come they never protest nor speak up against the constant suicide bombers from Pakistan who cross the border and kill 100s of Afghans, how come your clerics state suicide bombing in Afghanistan is Halal while its Haraam in Pakistan.

Pakistanis never protest when the likes of Imran Khan, Zaid Hamid, Hamid Gul, General Baig and co openly state pro Talib setiments on the topic of Afghanistan.

Afghanistan will always have an obstacle in terms of progression when Pakistan exists, because if Afghanistan slightly decides to do trade with India, Pakistan will react the same way as it has done in the past, and thats to send in its Jihadis and overthrow the governemnt.

[Insaaf_انصاف]

Before the "Peshawar Seven" ever existed, Afghanistan was ruled by a Secular monarchy, Daud was Secular, King Zahir Shah was secular, Najibullah was secular,King Amanullah Khan was secular, now lets see who was anti secular

1)Hekmatyar-Murderer
2)Sayaf-Murderer
3)Rabbani-Murderer
4)Ahmad Shah Masood-Murderer
5)Kala Khan-murderer
6)Mullah Omar-Murderer

the list goes on.


Now, compare the acheivements of these Anti Secularists with the Secularists and you will see what I mean.

Massood was a murderer ? No, he was a brave man killed by al qaeda

[Afghanistan2010]

No need for Taleban misoganists and their gehottoised sympathizers in the West---Pashtuns have always opted for secular set-up whenever they got a chance---who would like to be ruled by stone-age rules.

If that was the reality the history of afghanistan would have been different.

Ahmad Shah Abdali ( the son of islam) was the greatest of the soldiers of islam and pashtuns he established an islamic state not a secular state.

my sweetheart.

[randolph85]

Before the "Peshawar Seven" ever existed, Afghanistan was ruled by a Secular monarchy, Daud was Secular, King Zahir Shah was secular, Najibullah was secular,King Amanullah Khan was secular, now lets see who was anti secular

1)Hekmatyar-Murderer
2)Sayaf-Murderer
3)Rabbani-Murderer
4)Ahmad Shah Masood-Murderer
5)Kala Khan-murderer
6)Mullah Omar-Murderer

the list goes on.


Now, compare the acheivements of these Anti Secularists with the Secularists and you will see what I mean.

are u really claiming that these secular leaders have any achievements to their names? lol zahir shah lead a peaceful afg because of the regional situation and that his power barely extended to rural areas. daoud overthrew his secular cousin and brought in the secular communists to power, who murdered him, then the communists allowed the russians into afghanistan who then murdered or exiled the communist leaders when they wanted a change lol

the situation inside afg has been dictated by whats happening outside its borders. secular or not, afghanistan has had ****ty leaders for the last couple hundred years.

[TURK]

From what you just said I dont blame him showing anger. What constant struggle against civil war, you guys stirred up the civil war by arming your favourites and silencing the peaceful ones, and struggling against the Soviets, it was your people who with America meddled in Afghanistan and used it as a way to earn dollars on Afghan blood.

We dislike you and your society because your whole ideology plays a dangerous role on Afghanistan. You occupy Afghan land,and use it as a base to spread Militancy in Afghanistan.

The People of Pakistan are by far and by majority a threat to Afghanistan's progression.

This lefty non sense about Pakistanis are not all the same is mere non sense, I have never met such Anti Afghan people in my whole life, majority of Pakistanis support the Taliban and Al Qaida in Afghanistan because they know someone else will suffer but they will have enough people to use as soliders of fortune against India if a war happens.

If Pakistanis were so concerned and caring about Afghans, how come they never protest nor speak up against the constant suicide bombers from Pakistan who cross the border and kill 100s of Afghans, how come your clerics state suicide bombing in Afghanistan is Halal while its Haraam in Pakistan.

Pakistanis never protest when the likes of Imran Khan, Zaid Hamid, Hamid Gul, General Baig and co openly state pro Talib setiments on the topic of Afghanistan.

Afghanistan will always have an obstacle in terms of progression when Pakistan exists, because if Afghanistan slightly decides to do trade with India, Pakistan will react the same way as it has done in the past, and thats to send in its Jihadis and overthrow the governemnt.

Why you are always in anger. I think you are not afghan as you are stating that we have armed our favourites in civil war. Afghans were armed to fight against soviets not in civil war.
What kind of protest you want? We never demanded any protest from people in Afghanistan on any sucide attack in Pakistan. you are arguing like children.
Can you tell me please the number of Afghan Guests here in Pakistan. Please tell me where do you live on this earth? maybe india, UK, USA, CANADA etc.
If some people like taliban here then it is because of there good and brotherly relation with Pakistani people which was not shown by any previous Afghan govt (excluding Afghan People).
Why likes of you always want to befriend with india and abuse your other neighbers. Please forgive us for our not-commited sins. please.
I think luck of Afghanistan and Pakistan is attached with each other. we can achieve nothing without peace in both countries and co-operation among both countries.

[TURK]

Before the "Peshawar Seven" ever existed, Afghanistan was ruled by a Secular monarchy, Daud was Secular, King Zahir Shah was secular, Najibullah was secular,King Amanullah Khan was secular, now lets see who was anti secular

1)Hekmatyar-Murderer
2)Sayaf-Murderer
3)Rabbani-Murderer
4)Ahmad Shah Masood-Murderer
5)Kala Khan-murderer
6)Mullah Omar-Murderer

the list goes on.


Now, compare the acheivements of these Anti Secularists with the Secularists and you will see what I mean.

where were seculars when soviets invaded.

[TURK]

and who fought against soviets invasion?

[TURK]

Yes i'm secularist, because without secularism, we have what happen between 1996 and 2001 in Afghanistan , a genocide for pashtuns

Please do study what was happening before 1996

[TURK]

says the paki terrorist who supports the genocide of pashtuns because they weren't secular, what a shame

I think I can narrow your search. He seem Hazara.

[randolph85]

Well the Taliban can say the enemies of Islam are those who oppose Shariat?

Using religion can cause some confusion, wouldnt you say?

How can one define an enemy of a Religion? Shias and Sunnis still to this day cant figure that one out right?

using secular democracy can do the same, hence u have political parties.

i will not focus on the worthless fatwas since i am not a tv mullah. but when one blows themselves up in a public area, id say that is against islam. when one invites foreigners to rule them, id say thats against islam.