Nawroz originated with Persians???

[randolph85]

dude, just stop. u are really getting nowhere with this and i can see that u think ur intellect is far more superior than it really is.

eid is a religious celebration based on a religion that the believer holds more dear than life itself. nowroz is the ****in change in a calender lol


and also, i love ur amazing reasoning that liking red/green lights, bad music, and tree's equates to enjoying watching a man stick his penis in a woman on camera.

keep on keeping on, champ.

[Leonine]

i only wish you would be less graphic,then only i could take your religious arguments more seriously.. Is that what Islam teaches you? shame on you.....i could not bring myself to even read the filthy words you had written..i had written a single illicit word but the moment i posted it i regretted it and removed it... i dont want to continue conversing with waste

[randolph85]

so u say my like of christmas is tantamount to me watching porn but cant read a description of basic sex without being disgusted? how old are u?

go ahead and disappear now.

[ScimitarXEdge]

meh i dont know about you but i trust local legends and history from the likes of ferdowsi and gardezi more than from boyce and whoever wrote that article about nowroz being babylonian....

and randolph u r such a freaking hypocrite..you like christmas but not nowroz..shows that you are a cultureless lowlife..

The problem with that kind of thinking is that "local" is not equivalent to accurate. The logical and unbiased person trusts research and evidence. Ferdowsi is from Tus which is not local even if you claim Abdali conquered Tus, if that's the case Punjab and Delhi would also be local. Gardezi is local but even he deems Naw Roz Persian NOT Afghan.

[Chelsea-Fan]

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Now roz - nawey wraz

Same thing because both Persian and Pashto are Iranian languages.

As for pagan culture, attan is also pagan.

Stop inveting fakes.

''nawy wraz''. Neither nawey nor wraz or roz is Pakhtu. Attan is a dance. It has nothing to do with paganism. Music is also a ''pagan'' custom according to your logic. The Arabs self brought this original bedouine dance to us.

[Chelsea-Fan]

well NWFP pashtun are brainwashed illiterates...centuries of British rule have made them forget parts of their culture..

You are an idiot. We were never Pharsi related. We have our own culture, florished in our own country and regions among ourself. I don´t deny that we also had foreign influence but Nauroz (in Pakhtu Akhtar) was never part of our culture. As a Pharsian you should know that. Your hero al-Barani wrote Pakhtuns culture is neither Pharsian nor fully Hindu but a pagan culture, unrelated to other people but similar to the people of Kalash. Only Pharsian Muhammadzai and Barakzaiy traitors with Pharsian blood will celebrate this pagan culture

[آريا]

Chelsea-Fan,

you are na Paki nationalist so why do you worry when Afghans/Pashtuns start the new year in their solar calendar.

Who stops you from celebrating Sunday as your holiday and December 25 as the day of your pork eating Ismaili baba ye qom

[Chelsea-Fan]

Chelsea-Fan,

you are na Paki nationalist so why do you worry when Afghans/Pashtuns start the new year in their solar calendar.

Who stops you from celebrating Sunday as your holiday and December 25 as the day of your pork eating Ismaili baba ye qom

Hey wannabe Pakhtun Pharsian, shut up.. you are here on a Pakhtun forum, not Pharsian forum. If you are a Pakhtun you wouldn´t celebrate this **** because it is not part of Pakhtuns. In the entire Pakistan there is no porks, but 150 000 foreign porks are killing real Pakhtuns day by day in Afghanistan ... you pork sucking Pharisan. Tough beeing a wannabe Pharsian Pakhtun lol you are not accepted by the Pharsians. Your backward Taliban mentality

Ismaili baba

is one cause why Pharsians are hating you. You do not know that Pharsian have a lot of Ismaelis and you insult them. Also Pakhtun Ismaelis are there but noone of these people ever have eaten pork like you wannabe Pakhtuns. Stay away from Pakhtuns and Pakhtuns culture.. stay with your US Pork friends and work with them. Your Ismaeli Pamiri avater show who you are you loser :D

[AFG21]

Nawroz is just a celebration of new year, I am from Khost and that is a 100% pashtun area but still evereone celebrate it there only evreone just say nawa kol in stead of nawroz. If it wasn't originaly pashtun so what, peopel are making such a big deal out of somthing so small.

[ScimitarXEdge]

that's fine if you want to celebrate it; but don't whine and cry like Leonine about how Pashtuns are lost their culture; when so many things Pashtuns take as "their culture" aren't really Pashtun to begin with.

[AFG21]

To take something from another culture is human, every culture on this planet is enfluenced by other, like in the western countries if there is new year they use fireworks but that originaly come from china, culture is not writen in stone its changes time after time. Culture is like river the water must flow in it, if its not flowing and will stay at the same place it will turn in to a marsh. A marsh can look mystirous and pretty but it will be nothing more than a pool of stinking water.

[ScimitarXEdge]

That's my point .....so tell people like Leonine to stop whining, most of the things he thinks is our Pashtun culture isnt even ours.

[Tjanaparh]

It is a common holiday in the northern hemisphere, it means the awakining of nature and the new year!
Has nbothing to do specially with Persians!
We have at the same day a day called Amanor(New year).
Allmost every nation of the northern hemisphere has or had this holiday. Nations stopped ceebrating it when they got away from nature.

[Soldat_Amir]

We were all once part of the Persian empire, the Persian empire produced a culture of excellence, due to invaders especially the Turks and Arabs, the Persian(Iranic peoples) got divided, and then due to Religion, it between separated between Shia and Sunni.

I support the celebration of Nowruz, and I am sure before Islam came to the Pashtuns, most of our ancestors were celebrating it.

There is nothing wrong with celebrating it, and those who accuse it of being a Pagan celebration, they should look at their own faith before hand.

[Tjanaparh]

Dear Amir, however even Turks have celebrations on that day, Slavs had it too. It existed een before Persia! There are ( holidays o that kind in the year al related to the sun.
Nawrooz is the new year for us, in the south new year is in the end of september!