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Yar daa da mashomano khabare pregda... ghalat karona har zai ke di.
za da Afghanistan pa baara ke hom der sa waylay sham kho za na wayam zaka che za da haghwe der ezat kom. zaka che da Afghanistan 95% pukhtana der drana khalaq dai.
ao daa 5% ghalat khalaq pa har zai ke wi...
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ze weym che te pe afghanistan ke dasey shayan weweyney no zre ba dey ne dardegey?Originally posted by salam View PostYar daa da mashomano khabare pregda... ghalat karona har zai ke di.
za da Afghanistan pa baara ke hom der sa waylay sham kho za na wayam zaka che za da haghwe der ezat kom. zaka che da Afghanistan 95% pukhtana der drana khalaq dai.
ao daa 5% ghalat khalaq pa har zai ke wi...
ze da ne waym che pe Afghanistan ke ghalath karuna neshtha aw weym che raza de haghey hal ham payda ko kho ze ne peygem che pe tha waley bad lagey che ze de ekhpelo Pukhtano pe halath bandey zre khoegoma aw weyma che da khe ne keygey.
aw bela khabera da da che pe Afghanistan ke dasey halath ne dey che pe Pukhtunkhwa ke rawan dey ,Pakistan kho la preda haghoey kho hinduwano na ham yaw qadam mekhkey wewathel.
the mala pe Afghanistan ke dasey music video payda ka che pukhtane sarey punjabey sara ya Pukhtano khezo sara gadeygey.
aw da kho la preda os matha we khaywa che da pe tv ke ham ekhparegey.
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Brother, I know all these things but one should know about the causes of these things. You come to Pakistan and you will know what are the causes.
Pakistan is totally different than Afghanistan.
There is totally free media in Pakistan, there are about 100 channels in Pakistan, there is cheap mobile services and now a days almost every girl and boy have got mobile phone and using it everytime. You can talk for hours for just one rupee.
You have very cheap internet on mobile phone for everyone.
Then Pakistan is an established country where all these things have been developed and spread from time to time and a lobby is behind this who is doing all this hell thing.
There is no punjabi or Pashtun or sindhi or balochi behind this but there is another class which is called the secular minded class who want freedom for everyone in everything.
Secularists want to destroy our society with all this dirty filthy material.
The situation in Afghanistan is very different thats why these type of things have not developed that much. Afghanistan has been in a state of war for the last few decades, they have not seen free media, co education, even education and many other factors...
But now gradually you will feel these things in Afghanistan as well.
Another thing is that Pashtoons in Pakistan are in minority thats why they have to take affect from the majority.
So you should blame those who are promoting these filthy things and even protecting it and the responsible are the secularists in which ANP is included because they the biggest lovers of free dancing and music and every dirty acts.
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AgreedOriginally posted by salam View PostBrother, I know all these things but one should know about the causes of these things. You come to Pakistan and you will know what are the causes.
Ive been to Pakistan bro and i know
The causes are simple,Pashtuns were merged into a country created under british law and customs and there have been attempts at desifying the pashtun culture.
Pakistan is totally different than Afghanistan.
You are right
There is totally free media in Pakistan,
Is this a joke?Pakistan has one of the most controlled media in the world,no news or its sources can be trusted from pakistan since its all filtered by military and state.When one tries to show something true and try to be free in terms of media he will eb found dead.
there are about 100 channels in Pakistan, there is cheap mobile services and now a days almost every girl and boy have got mobile phone and using it everytime. You can talk for hours for just one rupee.
you are right there are TV channels most of which are good for nothing,can you name some of those 100 channels?offcourse there are mobile phones even in Afghanistan and even there is a problem cuz people call a random number and start abusing people.
You have very cheap internet on mobile phone for everyone.
Then Pakistan is an established country where all these things have been developed and spread from time to time and a lobby is behind this who is doing all this hell thing.
i wouldnt call that cheap internet seeing the speed.
than lets talk abotu this lobby and who is behind this.
There is no punjabi or Pashtun or sindhi or balochi behind this but there is another class which is called the secular minded class who want freedom for everyone in everything.
Agreed on this one but what does this freedom mean does it mean freedumb?
Secularists want to destroy our society with all this dirty filthy material.
Agreed
The situation in Afghanistan is very different thats why these type of things have not developed that much. Afghanistan has been in a state of war for the last few decades, they have not seen free media, co education, even education and many other factors...
Afghanistan for one is different cuz they didnt submit to british or their laws and customs and im glade they didnt.
Afghanistan also has a controlled media but compared to Pakistan Afghan tv is by far much decent and they will never show things which go against the religion or culture of Afghanistan.
But now gradually you will feel these things in Afghanistan as well.
Another thing is that Pashtoons in Pakistan are in minority thats why they have to take affect from the majority.
That doesnt make sense at all.Pashtun culture is superior to that of the "majority" and if you feel that it should be that way that way and you cant do anything about it,dont look further you can do something abotu it by uniting with your brethern in afghanistan.
So you should blame those who are promoting these filthy things and even protecting it and the responsible are the secularists in which ANP is included because they the biggest lovers of free dancing and music and every dirty acts.
but ANP is creation of what people want,the day these demaan are told that they need to stop the destruction of Pukhtun culture that day ANP will eb with you.
why do you guys blame it on ANP while we know ANP is under the pressure of paki state.
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Regarding the freedom of the media, yes I know it is very controlled. No one can talk against the army and ISI but I was talking about the other aspect mean the vulgarity being spread through the media and very bad language and dress is shown which is destroying our society in the name of fashion.Originally posted by graveyardofempires View PostAgreed
but ANP is creation of what people want,the day these demaan are told that they need to stop the destruction of Pukhtun culture that day ANP will eb with you.
why do you guys blame it on ANP while we know ANP is under the pressure of paki state.
Then the role of NGOs is on a very huge scale, they are liberating our women in a very wrong way but ANP and others are not doing anything in this regard.
Are you OK ? do you think you will tell damaan to stop damtob and they will stop ????????????????????
No dear, its not so simple unless you have a complete system.
Taliban did a try in this regard but they were killed by ANP and army.
The damtob pragrammes are being arranged in swat, peshawar and other areas by ANP and others.
But you love ANP.
You say ANP is under pressure so if ANP is under pressure then how can you expect from a common Pashtoon to speak against these dirt ?
But you are addicted to an addiction to blame those who have nothing in their hands. ANP has done nothing in their tenure for the last three years.
MMA was better in their time. They had done record developmental works.
Anp took votes in the name of Pashtoons and now killing innocent Pashtoons.
Now if you say ANP is pressurized from the govt then you should also accept that army is pressurized from America. but these are not excuses.
ANP is equally responsible for their dirt, for their extra judicial killings, for their war against innocent Pashtoons, for their corruption in the province, for their bad governance and so many other crimes.
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Ofcourse they should have no place in Pahtoon society because they are secular and their ideology is totally based on secularism. I will not talk about their links with India but their secularism chapter is enough for excluding them from the Pashtoon society.Originally posted by Saifullah View PostANP is an anti-islamic organisation. They do not represent Pukhtun values and are sell-outs.
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agree with you about ANP on that regard but lets not forget the other perpetrators as well.Originally posted by salam View PostRegarding the freedom of the media, yes I know it is very controlled. No one can talk against the army and ISI but I was talking about the other aspect mean the vulgarity being spread through the media and very bad language and dress is shown which is destroying our society in the name of fashion.
Then the role of NGOs is on a very huge scale, they are liberating our women in a very wrong way but ANP and others are not doing anything in this regard.
Are you OK ? do you think you will tell damaan to stop damtob and they will stop ????????????????????
No dear, its not so simple unless you have a complete system.
Taliban did a try in this regard but they were killed by ANP and army.
The damtob pragrammes are being arranged in swat, peshawar and other areas by ANP and others.
But you love ANP.
You say ANP is under pressure so if ANP is under pressure then how can you expect from a common Pashtoon to speak against these dirt ?
But you are addicted to an addiction to blame those who have nothing in their hands. ANP has done nothing in their tenure for the last three years.
MMA was better in their time. They had done record developmental works.
Anp took votes in the name of Pashtoons and now killing innocent Pashtoons.
Now if you say ANP is pressurized from the govt then you should also accept that army is pressurized from America. but these are not excuses.
ANP is equally responsible for their dirt, for their extra judicial killings, for their war against innocent Pashtoons, for their corruption in the province, for their bad governance and so many other crimes.
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I know plenty of ANP people and my relatives knew them and their founder really well. He used to come to their house everyday the founder of ANP. So these people are extreme traitors of pashtuns and are against Islam. Especially the current ANP...these people who support them are traitors to pashtuns and islam as well.
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Thanks god you accepted something...Originally posted by graveyardofempires View Postagree with you about ANP on that regard but lets not forget the other perpetrators as well.
So I was just saying that our own so called Pashtoon leaders are such dirty and sold out. So how can you expect good from your enemy.
What we need to do is to first cut all those into pieces who take our name and then do nothing for us.
Then we will talk about others whether he is ISI, or jinnah, or zardari or gillani, or any other....
First lets make our own home clean and find some great leaders from us.
who do not sell us in the hands of ISI and America and others but stand on their own feet and direct us to a right path way, the pathway of Pukhtunwali and Islam rather than dragging our skull on secular streets.
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