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im the product of an interracial marriage, i turned out awful. i dont recommend it.
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There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.
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What a load of garbage. If i was being undignified towards someone else, I'd have done what undignified men do, which is more than mention i've had a lot of girlfriends.Originally posted by DaZahroJaam. View Posti think you have humble and modest confused with each other. your honesty is your humbleness and the fact that you don't consider being involved with lots of women could be due to you being naive at the most but modesty is definitely out of the question.
before you publicly advertise your relationship with someone else you must remember that there are two people involved in it and they are entitled to their share of dignity even if you don't care much for yourself. as a person who at some point of time mattered to you, you should have that respect for them. even if they are your ex boyfriend/girlfriend wife or just a friend.
on a totally different note, being linked to many people in one's life is not a positive thing. it's almost as if you are waving the amount of times you have failed at something in everyone's face and being proud of it at the same time.
Modesty and humbleness are the same thing so I dont know what you're trying to say there.
Being linked with many people means different things to different people. For some it's a sign of man's virility. For others it is a source of embarassment. Some people may not see it as either, just fact.Comment
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What a load of garbage. If i was being undignified towards someone else, I'd have done what undignified men do, which is more than mention i've had a lot of girlfriends.
i strongly believe that women and men who think they can get away with doing something that is considered wrong by the majority in a society will continue and take that particular action as long as they know for sure that they will get away with it with out having to face any consequences from their conscious or the society. in other words, the reason as to why you didn't do what "undignified" men do has nothing to do with your sense of integrity and everything to do with the fear of how society will perceive you.
Modesty and humbleness are the same thing so I dont know what you're trying to say there.
humbleness is a very small fish in the rivers of modesty hence not ever the same.
Being linked with many people means different things to different people. for the people with a decent amount of gray matter in their brains it means the end of a relationship for which they cared enough to expect for it to work. For some it's a sign of man's virility. for people who are there to fool around with each others feelings and time it obviously means nothing more than having their socks changed for a new pair. a man who treats the women he is supposed to care for so poorly does not have a clue of what a relationship is supposed to be let alone manhood. For others it is a source of embarassment. Some people may not see it as either, just fact. whatever..
I am no bird, and no nest ensnares me.
non commercial would cost less if he was in charge himself which he plans on doing. right now it's n herat but soon it will be in qanadahar.
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Oh puleeease. When with my last girlfriend, I didn't feel i was getting away with anything. It all seemed very natural. Some people will not feel that way, and they might feel like they are getting away with something.Originally posted by DaZahroJaam. View Post
You will get all types. Some men will be hypocrites and "allow" themselves certain actions while forbidding those action towards others. Some might not. Some will assume an understanding of the relationship that might be incorrect.
As for not doing something on the anonymous internet, the fact that I would refuse to do the undignified even under the shadow of anonymity, speaks volumes about my integrity (i mean that in the humblest possible way).
Modesty and humbleness are the same thing so I dont know what you're trying to say there.
humbleness is a very small fish in the rivers of modesty hence not ever the same.
what do you mean? Humble = Modest. You can look it up.
You can't make up the meaning of words.
Men cannot be held accountable all the time. Women need to make it clear in the beginning what they want from a relationship (if they want one). If a man then lies and goes back on his word, he has no integrity. I wouldn't do that.Being linked with many people means different things to different people. for the people with a decent amount of gray matter in their brains it means the end of a relationship for which they cared enough to expect for it to work. For some it's a sign of man's virility. for people who are there to fool around with each others feelings and time it obviously means nothing more than having their socks changed for a new pair. a man who treats the women he is supposed to care for so poorly does not have a clue of what a relationship is supposed to be let alone manhood. For others it is a source of embarassment. Some people may not see it as either, just fact. whatever..Comment
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okay, umm i have no idea what you are talking about.Originally posted by roadrunner View PostOh puleeease. When with my last girlfriend, I didn't feel i was getting away with anything. It all seemed very natural. Some people will not feel that way, and they might feel like they are getting away with something.
You will get all types. Some men will be hypocrites and "allow" themselves certain actions while forbidding those action towards others. Some might not. Some will assume an understanding of the relationship that might be incorrect.
As for not doing something on the anonymous internet, the fact that I would refuse to do the undignified even under the shadow of anonymity, speaks volumes about my integrity (i mean that in the humblest possible way).
what do you mean? Humble = Modest. You can look it up.
You can't make up the meaning of words.
Men cannot be held accountable all the time. Women need to make it clear in the beginning what they want from a relationship (if they want one). If a man then lies and goes back on his word, he has no integrity. I wouldn't do that.
I am no bird, and no nest ensnares me.
non commercial would cost less if he was in charge himself which he plans on doing. right now it's n herat but soon it will be in qanadahar.
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road, which hurts more...
ur herpes or gonorrhea?There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.
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I ll try translating this for you DJZ
Originally posted by roadrunner View Post
When I am with a girl and I call her my "Girlfriend", basically ... there is an implicit agreement between her and I that we are not bound by any agreement for future plans....so when later I dump her or maker her dump me because ...I am bored of her ...naturally....I don't feel guilty about the break up...thats why I don't feel like I am getting away with any "crime" per say...that's just fact ...because those are the "rules of the game"...and I am just a playa ...beeep beeep
I am an honest guy...You will get all types. Some men will be hypocrites and "allow" themselves certain actions while forbidding those action towards others. Some might not. Some will assume an understanding of the relationship that might be incorrect.
Most of these guys here have had girl friends too but they say "oh I can do it because I am not fooling anyone here ...just not making things "official" with my other loves ones ...like my family who are a bit too old school and don't like to know the details of my "private affairs...but others shouldn't do it because they are all lustful and have bad intentions"...so because I am known as a professional macdaddy I am actually opening the eyes of the people...unlike the hypocrites who just want to hog all the fun for themselves....you see? I am the good guy...
I refuse to do the undignified even under the shadow of anonymity" - literally that translates to "I aint gonna shag no skank undercover"As for not doing something on the anonymous internet, the fact that I would refuse to do the undignified even under the shadow of anonymity, speaks volumes about my integrity (i mean that in the humblest possible way).
I am a legitimate pick up artist and I am coming out of the closet...and I am proud...and unashamed...hence, i have integrity.
Simply put, integrity means being the same as you are as in the absence of watching eyes. what do you mean? Humble = Modest. You can look it up.
You can't make up the meaning of words.
its not my fault the girl is too scared of losing me already that she avoids the topic of marriage...Men cannot be held accountable all the time. Women need to make it clear in the beginning what they want from a relationship (if they want one). If a man then lies and goes back on his word, he has no integrity. I wouldn't do that.
It's not my fault Allah made me charming and "viral"
If I gave my word (which I never did ) and went back on it ...then in that case...I am a cheater...and cheaters never prosper.
(you dun have to thank me for this one... )Comment
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Seem like having extra-marital relationship has become a normality in Pashtuns as well. Or is it that the men have a licence to screw but the girls should respect their Culture/ Religion /Num / Namoos / This / That etc and etc and etc and etc and etc.
I have few questions for the guys that are so very proudly confessing to having been with many girls.
The Questions are:
1. Would you be so casual about these relationships if a female from your immediate family was having such relationships?
2. Is Respect, Dignity, Nanung, Namoos, Haya, Ghairat, only for pashtun Women?
3. Is Pashtunwali a mere tool through which we Pashtun men control Pashtun women?
p.s. please just answer my questions dont try to evade the answer by swear at my mother and sister etc. I know this place is full of great namto Pashtuns that will not hesitate in bringing others mother and sister in discussion.
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Alchemist,
that was approximately what I got from roadrunner - even his
very username sounds...
RACY...
You explained even more than I had realized.
Why on earth is this guy so concerned about holding forth here on PF
about his views?
I am just wondering.
By the way, as a general point about Indian nationals here, I read
that Hindu Fundamentalist groups have members who they actually PAY
to go fight battles over the internet on behalf of "mother india"
and Hinduism I suppose too.
In short they are nationalist and anti-Muslim.
So if roadrunner is not one, there may be others here.
They all have the same arrogant, freewheeling style whether
actual Hindu Fundamentalist undercover agents OR just
free-lancers.Comment
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Roadrunner, whoever said pakistani punjabis and urdu people are pleasant??
The fact that you r proud testifies how disgusting.
Let's be clear loose characters are usually not good looking in the first place, that's why they are way out there.Comment
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Karl Marxs says:Originally posted by Feroza_Banu View Post
"In any age the ruling ideas are the ideas of the ruling groups"
In our society the ruling group (men) are actively involved in creating rules, practices, and norms for the society (which they then label as Pashtunwali) through which they regulate the weaker group of the society (women) through self-control and self-discipline (play by our rules or we will not call you a Pashtana).
But if the weaker group want to give up their right of making independent choices then its fine by me. But the hypocrisy hits the fan when the powerful group, the men of our society, will make their fancy rules and regulation, Pashtunwali, BUT then they will absolve themselves from following those rules.
This is the goof of all time.
Men have every right to have as many girl friends as many they like but the girls should not even look at anyone with bad intentions. This is just great.Last edited by Guest; 03-02-2011, 07:17 PM.Comment
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^ You forgot one more thing. It doesn't matter if a Pukhtoon marries even an African and completely loses his culture and language because his children will have 'Pukhtoon blood', while a Pukhtana should always remain with a Pukhtoon even if she can maintain her culture and language perfectly well by whomever she marries.
Whenever I argue with someone elder who is either being biased or unreasonable then these are two lines I always get from them; 'Chup kena! Deer zaan de Parsiwan Parsiwan mekawa!' Or, 'Khudaya tobah! Pukhtana kheza aw dumra jurat!?' LOL, funny people!Last edited by Shayesta; 03-02-2011, 07:17 PM.Gar Jahanum Sakhtam Ferdaws Ham MesazamatComment
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forget about "modesty" talk about "Morality". I asked you a question earlier on, I will repeat my question,Originally posted by roadrunner View Post
Would you be so casual about these relationships if a female from your immediate family was having such relationships?Comment
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