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  • Originally posted by Dreamer View Post
    Flips sake the quran doesnt allow marriage to non muslim men
    Are you sure that the Quran doesn't allow it? 'Cause, yes, it's true that the Quran allows Muslim men to marry women from the People of the Book.... But can you cite at least one verse where the Quran doesn't allow Muslim women to marry men from the People of the Book? (It tells Muslims that they may not marry disbelievers/polytheists at all, and this is a command for both Muslim men and women.)

    k, I'll be waiting.

    Manana in advance, wror gula.

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    • what has punjabies done for us pashtuns in Pakistan that I will give them my daughter lol.
      pashtunwali is important to me

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      • I know such pesudo-liberals...lolz
        Originally posted by Master Khan View Post
        and he is calling us backwards and saying that we live in stone age.
        "O Pakhtuns!, Your house has fallen into ruin, let us rebuild it".
        "I want to see my people educated and enlightened. A people with a vision and a strong sense of justice, who can carve out a future for themselves in harmony with nature".

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        • Did I say It was wrong to marry a pashtun? NO.... QUITE THE REVERSE YOU AND YOUR PARTY MAKE THE CLAIM THAT IST WRONG TO MARRY A NON PASHTUN MUSLIM.... GET OVER YOURSELVES... EXCATLY WHAT HAVE PASHTUNS DONE THATS SO GREAT????? WE ARE BOTTOM OF THE PILE IN TERMS OF EVERYTHING... Pride in ones lineage is nothing to be proud of .... nature put you there not some acomplishment of your own
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          • Originally posted by Dreamer View Post
            Flips sake the quran doesnt allow marriage to non muslim men... it does allow marriage to muslim men regardless of ethnicity.... The quran is your book isnt it? or is pashtunwali more important to u?
            In Quran-e-Sharif it is also said 'try to marry someone from your own kind', so even the Quran-e-Sharif supports marriage within your own tribe because your 'own kind' understand you better and will have less difficulty is adjusting with your culture and family. I don't think there is anything wrong if people say they prefer Pukhtoons marrying Pukhtanas, same wise I also think it's totally up to the person himself which ethnic he wants to marry and which not. Your life, you are the one who has to live with it.
            Gar Jahanum Sakhtam Ferdaws Ham Mesazamat

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            • Originally posted by Qrratugai View Post
              Are you sure that the Quran doesn't allow it? 'Cause, yes, it's true that the Quran allows Muslim men to marry women from the People of the Book.... But can you cite at least one verse where the Quran doesn't allow Muslim women to marry men from the People of the Book? (It tells Muslims that they may not marry disbelievers/polytheists at all, and this is a command for both Muslim men and women.)

              k, I'll be waiting.

              Manana in advance, wror gula.

              The quran doesnt allow it... if it did it wld state it clearly.. reasons for this the Torah/talmund would want the conversion of the female 2 judiasim for it is the mother who determines if the child is a jew so it wld be unthinkable for a orthodox jewish man to marry a non jewish lady for any offspring he had wld be non jew... he wld therefore require conversion on her part as for chrsitinaity while paul in his letters made no restriction for christians 2 marry non christians many eastern orthdox sects ( prevelent at Islams start) wanted babtisim for any female spouse, quran protects the ahle kitabs females from conversion 2 islam unless they choose 2 enter it
              Last edited by Dreamer; 06-26-2010, 05:44 PM.
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              • Originally posted by Shayesta View Post
                In Quran-e-Sharif it is also said 'try to marry someone from your own kind', so even the Quran-e-Sharif supports marriage within your own tribe because your 'own kind' understand you better and will have less difficulty is adjusting with your culture and family. I don't think there is anything wrong if people say they prefer Pukhtoons marrying Pukhtanas, same wise I also think it's totally up to the person himself which ethnic he wants to marry and which not. Your life, you are the one who has to live with it.
                yea thts why prophet married a hebrew lady and a coptic lady.... guess he forgeot about that verse... clearly u knw better than him my bad!
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                • Well Dreamer, we are at the base of the pyramid but that does not harm our pride. A lotus grows in mud but still it's flower is unsoiled as it raises above the ground. We are thankful to nature where we are.We will raise as lotus flower very soon *optimistic*
                  Originally posted by Dreamer View Post
                  Did I say It was wrong to marry a pashtun? NO.... QUITE THE REVERSE YOU AND YOUR PARTY MAKE THE CLAIM THAT IST WRONG TO MARRY A NON PASHTUN MUSLIM.... GET OVER YOURSELVES... EXCATLY WHAT HAVE PASHTUNS DONE THATS SO GREAT????? WE ARE BOTTOM OF THE PILE IN TERMS OF EVERYTHING... Pride in ones lineage is nothing to be proud of .... nature put you there not some acomplishment of your own
                  "O Pakhtuns!, Your house has fallen into ruin, let us rebuild it".
                  "I want to see my people educated and enlightened. A people with a vision and a strong sense of justice, who can carve out a future for themselves in harmony with nature".

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                  • Originally posted by gulalai View Post
                    Well Dreamer, we are at the base of the pyramid but that does not harm our pride. A lotus grows in mud but still it's flower is unsoiled as it raises above the ground. We are thankful to nature where we are.We will raise as lotus flower very soon *optimistic*
                    your pride in your ppl is misplaced, if they had done something then afair enough but what have hey dne? they dnt even have theor own country! loooool
                    on one side they are being done in by farsi zuban and the other punjabies and we pashtuns are still dumb enough 2 immitate both!
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                    • @Dreamer
                      You seriously have difficulty in understand things, don't ya? I didn't say in Islam only marriage within your own tribe is allowed. In Islam it's recommended to marry the people of your own kind and those you can adjust with, in other words; Marriage outside your tribe isn't forbidden as long as he is a Muslim, but marriage within your own tribe is recommended. So if people say they don't want to marry non-Pukhtoons then I don't understand why others bring our religion into this because even our holy book doesn't tell you not to prefer your own tribe.

                      And about our prophet, he also had a reason to marry women of several religions and several areas because spreading Islam into more bigger areas was needed. We can't compare him with any ordinary man.
                      Gar Jahanum Sakhtam Ferdaws Ham Mesazamat

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                      • read what prophet said about having false pride in ones ancestry.... bani israel used to boast they were chosen By God himself... all nations make stupid claims about being special... when your dead and buried we will all be bones... thats exactly why prophet married a hebrew lady showing that jews are not 2 be despised besides by marrying her her tribe was passified but they didnt accept islam.... ist well knwn that though hz saffiya accepted islam her nephew who was her heir didnt and practised judiaisim till his death as did other members of her family.... u wld do well 2 learn frm his seera
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                        • Lolz...nobody will make as fast diversions as you make in your arguments. So now the old mambo jumbo of what have we done? We are stopping our kids to marry other ethnicites.You got it,eh? I think I deserve one diversion here,duh!!
                          "O Pakhtuns!, Your house has fallen into ruin, let us rebuild it".
                          "I want to see my people educated and enlightened. A people with a vision and a strong sense of justice, who can carve out a future for themselves in harmony with nature".

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                          • you seriously need 2 reread the posts....
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                            • Originally posted by Dreamer View Post
                              your pride in your ppl is misplaced, if they had done something then afair enough but what have hey dne? they dnt even have theor own country! loooool
                              on one side they are being done in by farsi zuban and the other punjabies and we pashtuns are still dumb enough 2 immitate both!
                              But we are not dumb enough to give them our sisters and daughters.
                              like I said before sta khabara da paktano nadi.

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                              • flips sake u really shld go back 2 ur village and give ur female relation 2 the first pashtun u meet.... ID RATHER MY FEMALE RELATIONS MARRY DECENT PEOPLE THAN THE LIKES OF U! SIMPLE!
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