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  • Originally posted by khushal View Post
    It has been said this connection between the Macedonians and Nuristani's are a myth. It has been recorded that Alexander had come into contact with the people of Nuristan and the Macedonians described them as warrior like people and fiercely independent. Their language has no similarity with modern Macedonian or ancient Macedonian or Greek.

    They have many different dialects so different from one another that they have to speak pashto as a common language since they do not understand each others dialects.
    so far ive heard they came from macedonians,ive heard this from my family members ,some of which are partially nuristanis.

    what you are saying might be possible

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    • Originally posted by graveyardofempires View Post
      so far ive heard they came from macedonians,ive heard this from my family members ,some of which are partially nuristanis.

      what you are saying might be possible
      Todays nuristani themselves claim decent from Alexanders army, but Alexanders historians themselves recorded that Alexander himself was shot with an arrow in Kunar. That arrow came from pushtun tribesmen or the Nuristanis tribesmen when he tried to subdue them. Most scholars and linguists reject the connection between the two.

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      • Nuristanis are most likely Parthians/Scythians as those people split into various groups, including the Pashtuns.

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        • Originally posted by graveyardofempires View Post
          so far ive heard they came from macedonians,ive heard this from my family members ,some of which are partially nuristanis.

          what you are saying might be possible
          DNA testing showed that the Kalash who are brethren of Kunaris and Nuristanis do not share genetic material with the Greeks. By studying the Kalash, they concluded that these people have unique genetic markers with no connection to Greeks or other Europeans. The Greek connection theory was popularized by British historians who lacked modern day genetic testing material to validate their claims.

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          • Originally posted by R3SISTANC3 View Post
            DNA testing showed that the Kalash who are brethren of Kunaris and Nuristanis do not share genetic material with the Greeks. By studying the Kalash, they concluded that these people have unique genetic markers with no connection to Greeks or other Europeans. The Greek connection theory was popularized by British historians who lacked modern day genetic testing material to validate their claims.
            but they themselves claim to be,liek i said it may just be unknown just like Pashtun history and origin.

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            • some kind souls gave me some great advise on another thread and I now can no longer find that thread. if anyone knows how to direct me to it, I would be so grateful. they were invaluable thoughts on my coming work.

              please advise, if I should be asking these questions on another thread.

              here are some more specific questions;

              1) how do Pashtuns generally feel about Massoud's contribution to the resistance?

              2) here is a dialect question: for example the word "pohayzhee". I have heard it pronounced "pohaygee". which region would pronounce it with the "zhe" and which with the "geh"?

              does anyone know how a tribal warlord leader from nuristan would pronounce it?

              same with the word "zmozh". I have heard it pronounced something like "zmung".

              the word "praizhda"; I've heard it pronounced "prayda" or "praigda".

              can anyone clarify these pronunciations for me?

              3) what is the traditional Pashtun relationship with people from Kunduz?

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              • I found the thread.

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                • Originally posted by bernardwhite View Post
                  some kind souls gave me some great advise on another thread and I now can no longer find that thread. if anyone knows how to direct me to it, I would be so grateful. they were invaluable thoughts on my coming work.

                  please advise, if I should be asking these questions on another thread.

                  here are some more specific questions;

                  1) how do Pashtuns generally feel about Massoud's contribution to the resistance?

                  2) here is a dialect question: for example the word "pohayzhee". I have heard it pronounced "pohaygee". which region would pronounce it with the "zhe" and which with the "geh"?

                  does anyone know how a tribal warlord leader from nuristan would pronounce it?

                  same with the word "zmozh". I have heard it pronounced something like "zmung".

                  the word "praizhda"; I've heard it pronounced "prayda" or "praigda".

                  can anyone clarify these pronunciations for me?

                  3) what is the traditional Pashtun relationship with people from Kunduz?
                  All try to answer what I can for you, Bernard Khan.

                  From my families perspectives, nobody was really fond of Ahmad Shah Massoud. Not necessarily because he was a Tajik, but he made several cease-fire agreements with the Soviets. Also, the shelling of Kabul during the Civil War didn't help his PR.

                  Zmozh (our) is from the Sheen dialect of Pashto. Spoken in southern Afghanistan/Baluchistan, and Waziristan. zamung is from the Kheem dialect spoken in Eastern Afg/Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa.

                  As for Pohaygey (understand) it will be sounded with a (ghy), same with pregda.

                  Don't forget,

                  The people from Nuristan province, are majority Ethnic Nuristani. They have their own language that is different from Pashto. Pashai, is also spoken their. Pashto is spoken as a 2nd language by most villagers.

                  Kunduz, has alot of Pashtuns living their. I dont know if the relationships between Pashtuns, and others are "hostile" or not.


                  I hope I answered your questions, if somebody sees something which is wrong, do correct me

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                  • First post yay!

                    I am Afridi, the strongest tribe in terms of fighting.
                    Yama Pukhtoon da Pukhtano sara zam.

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                    • We Maseeds are stronger

                      keshna ghalay.................

                      my Wazir are stonger u also khu wazir muaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
                      تار تار پروت دی چا راټول نه کړو سائله
                      د پښتون وطن ګرېوان د لېوني دی

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                      • ohhh i knw kharoti vs wazir ...............har wakht ya


                        breed wi khpal manz ka :P ....kna
                        تار تار پروت دی چا راټول نه کړو سائله
                        د پښتون وطن ګرېوان د لېوني دی

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                        • Sulaimankhell
                          Life is like posing for pictures. We pose the way we want to be seen by others. But stolen shots are better. They capture who we really are...

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                          • Am I the only momand/mohmand here? :S LOL
                            True wisdom comes to each of us when we realize how little we understand about life, ourselves, and the world around us. - Socrates

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                            • Originally posted by bernardwhite View Post
                              some kind souls gave me some great advise on another thread and I now can no longer find that thread. if anyone knows how to direct me to it, I would be so grateful. they were invaluable thoughts on my coming work.

                              please advise, if I should be asking these questions on another thread.

                              here are some more specific questions;

                              1) how do Pashtuns generally feel about Massoud's contribution to the resistance?

                              2) here is a dialect question: for example the word "pohayzhee". I have heard it pronounced "pohaygee". which region would pronounce it with the "zhe" and which with the "geh"?

                              does anyone know how a tribal warlord leader from nuristan would pronounce it?

                              same with the word "zmozh". I have heard it pronounced something like "zmung".

                              the word "praizhda"; I've heard it pronounced "prayda" or "praigda".

                              can anyone clarify these pronunciations for me?

                              3) what is the traditional Pashtun relationship with people from Kunduz?
                              Well other users have answered your questions but not many have answered your third one.

                              Well guess what? I'm a Kunduzi Pashtun. The relationship between pasthuns and other ethnicities residing in the province is fairly well. Most pasthuns and other ethnicities in Kunduz inter-marry, so racism and prejudice is uncommon.
                              True wisdom comes to each of us when we realize how little we understand about life, ourselves, and the world around us. - Socrates

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                              • Originally posted by Toramana View Post
                                I am a Tajak. Where are my Tajak brothers here?

                                Down with Pashtuns. Long live Tajaks.

                                I am a mixture of pashtuns and tajiks! So LONG LIVE BOTH of them ! haha
                                True wisdom comes to each of us when we realize how little we understand about life, ourselves, and the world around us. - Socrates

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