Pashto equivalents for Urdu and English words used in Pashto as spoken in Pakistan

[khushal]

I hope you are not searching Pashto words for Mobile Phone , Machine, Passport , Bank , truck, tractor etc. I consider such obsession as unreal-ism, extremism and stupidity.

The hour in Pashto is pronounced differently from Urdu's. In Urdu its "gunt-ha", in Pashto we say "gainta".

Car is a western invention but Pashtuns do not call it car. We shorten it to "motar" (as in motor car), or call it "gaaday" (which is also used for any other vehicle).

gaaday means wagon which in the past they used to use horses to pull wagons which the motor replaced.

[khushal]

Another word will be 'Bagay'/'بګۍ'(used mostly in the Afghanistan side).
Don't if it's a cognate with English(Buggy) or a borrowing.

Most likely it is borrowed from English.

[khushal]

Dear readers,

As we all know in Pakistan, colloquial and even formal Pashto, to an extent, has many loanwords from Urdu and English, some of which already have native Pashto equivalents.

I will be posting a story in the Quetta dialect (in the Latin script because it is a sample of spoken Pashto).

The first part of the story is below:

Tso wakht lamakh za pa forest department ki woma aw dore me da naukarano pa sar supervisor lagedali woma. Da khalko ba pa ghra ki kaddan kshal aw pa ghra ki ba ye pa daa kaddyano ki bedz eshawi, da de maksad daa wo sa pa daa ghro ki tsa drakhte rashne si. Za har sahar raporta som aw kora sa ba bus stop ta wlaram. Bus stop sa ba za pa bus ke kshenastam aw pa nima ganta ke ba Barori ta warasedam…

What do you think the Pashto equivalents (or any possible neologisms) of the following would be:

1) Forest Department
2) Supervisor
3) Bus Stop
4) Bus
5) Ganta or genta - from Urdu ghanta. Many object to its use but the other word for hour, "sa'at" is from Arabic so neither are true Pastho words.

King regards,
A

In Afghanistan for Bus we use the word "serwais" which is borrowed from English bus "service." But as already mentioned these inventions have been introduced to the area by the English so naturally english words would be used to describe these new inventions.

[khushal]

That's a tanga(ټانګه).

early motor cars were copied from wagons pulled by horses.

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[maneatinglizard]

Urdu hasn't borrowed any words from Pashto. That's just Pakistani propaganda try to make Urdu look more like a neutral Pan-Pakistani language. All the "Pashto loanwords in Urdu" are just Perso-Arabic loanwords that exist in both languages.

I've never heard "kuna" being said. A select few folk that had contact with Pashtuns growing up may use it, but it's not considered an Urdu word and far from commonly used.

I highly doubt that Urdu has no Pashto loanwords, considering the long history of Pashtun dominance in the parts of India where Urdu developed.

There are words that only exist in Pashto and Urdu, and considering Urdu's age, I'd say it's more likely that Urdu was the one borrowing.

[Samandri]

Nope. Urdu hasn't borrowed any words from Pashto.

Very uneducated claim.

Read "Urdu may Pashto ka hisa" by Imtiaz Ali Arshi, and "Urdu ki tashkeel may Pashtuno ka kirdar" by Hanif Khalil

[Sarbani]

I highly doubt that Urdu has no Pashto loanwords, considering the long history of Pashtun dominance in the parts of India where Urdu developed.

There are words that only exist in Pashto and Urdu, and considering Urdu's age, I'd say it's more likely that Urdu was the one borrowing.

Can you name some of these words?

[Akbar]

I’ve always thought gaaday/gaady is this thing here

This is called Tanga and the one with donkey is called khargarray. Donkey cart.

[زده کوونکی]

I hope you are not searching Pashto words for Mobile Phone , Machine, Passport , Bank , truck, tractor etc. I consider such obsession as unreal-ism, extremism and stupidity.

The hour in Pashto is pronounced differently from Urdu's. In Urdu its "gunt-ha", in Pashto we say "gainta".

Car is a western invention but Pashtuns do not call it car. We shorten it to "motar" (as in motor car), or call it "gaaday" (which is also used for any other vehicle).

While that's true to an extent, we can learn from nations like Germany or Japan, who have their own equivalents for most Englush terms, even modern inventions. But considering English is the main international/foreign/historical language in Pakistan, followed by Mandarin recently, we may want to keep some of these terms to help Pashtun students learn English which is essential in the modern world.

But we should learn from Afghan Pashto, listen to their media or read their websites whether from Jalalabad or Kandahar and then watch a TV from Peshawar or Quetta and you'll see the difference.

[زده کوونکی]

I think after Pakistan, Urdu speakers started borrowing words from Pashto. I think there was a list of such words somewhere on the internet. Also I have heard them use some very unique Pashto words.('kuna' e.g.) makes me very confused sometimes.

There are non-standard dialects of Urdu which predate Pakistan and are still spoken in India. Some of these communities are of Pashtun desecent and they, especially the women, use many Pashto words.

Quite a few Pakistanis are familiar with a few Pashto words and phrases, particular, in the Peshawar dialect. "Dilta rasha" "Charta rawane" "Pa khair raley" "Kha" "Spay" and others, these are popular with Punjabis and most people in Islamabad would understand them.

[زده کوونکی]

Urdu hasn't borrowed any words from Pashto. That's just Pakistani propaganda try to make Urdu look more like a neutral Pan-Pakistani language. All the "Pashto loanwords in Urdu" are just Perso-Arabic loanwords that exist in both languages.

I've never heard "kuna" being said. A select few folk that had contact with Pashtuns growing up may use it, but it's not considered an Urdu word and far from commonly used.

Please see the link I am posting shortly

[زده کوونکی]

I highly doubt that Urdu has no Pashto loanwords, considering the long history of Pashtun dominance in the parts of India where Urdu developed.

There are words that only exist in Pashto and Urdu, and considering Urdu's age, I'd say it's more likely that Urdu was the one borrowing.

Yes you are correct

[زده کوونکی]

Can you name some of these words?

Dialects of Urdu (spoken by communities in India) use "kho" instead of "lekin"

There is confusion between "ch" and "s" and "j" and "z" due to Pashto influence - eg. "zangal" for "jangal", "saadar" for "chaadar", "zaa" for "jaa".

Use of Pashto grammer and sentence structure.

Please see the link I am posting

[زده کوونکی]

Nope. Urdu hasn't borrowed any words from Pashto. The word "gaade" in Pashto is actually a borrowing from Urdu, which inherited it from Sanskrit.

گاڑی - Wiktionary

Please read the links I am posting

[زده کوونکی]

Urdu dialect of the Pathans of Kaimganj Uttar Pradesh

Shodhganga@INFLIBNET: Urdu dialect of the Pathans of Kaimganj Uttar Pradesh a linguistic analysis of its characteristics lexical items and idioms

The learning of Pashto in North India and Pakistan

The learning of Pashto in North India and Pakistan: An historical account (PDF Download Available)