Kurdi Pashto similarities

[Khostai]

Good guess...but pakistanis you ll find less religious in majority.Only some are what you described.

I think by Afghan she also mean Tajik, Hazara and Uzback also, those people in Europe are almost non-relligious at all, the only Afghans that I have come across who still practise some Islam were PAshtuns, very few were Tajiks....

The thing about Punjabis is that thay still wear Paki clothing even in the winter, what looks so out of place....

[Khostai]

And why sudenly the facination with Kurds? You know all the Kurdish movements and Kurdish culture today is secular and more to the leftist side? They are quite like Khalkis of Afghanistan, but with a lot more emphasis on women integration, thats why you see so many women fighting in the wars, and majority women in politics in Turkey have kurdish background, thats what I really like about Kurdish people, they seem the only ones in that region who are diffrent and try to progress...Not like Afghans and Pakis who try to reverse time....

[ghumbasa]

I think by Afghan she also mean Tajik, Hazara and Uzback also, those people in Europe are almost non-relligious at all, the only Afghans that I have come across who still practise some Islam were PAshtuns, very few were Tajiks....

The thing about Punjabis is that thay still wear Paki clothing even in the winter, what looks so out of place....

Kashmiris and Sikhs also wear same clothes that doesnt make them out of place either.Every person s perception is different.May they are as much proud of their clothes as we pashtuns are of our dressing.The pasbtuns that are a bit religious are pakistani pashtuns and those bar pashtuns that are living as refugees.Those that went to west ...many are becoming secular.

[ghumbasa]

And why sudenly the facination with Kurds? You know all the Kurdish movements and Kurdish culture today is secular and more to the leftist side? They are quite like Khalkis of Afghanistan, but with a lot more emphasis on women integration, thats why you see so many women fighting in the wars, and majority women in politics in Turkey have kurdish background, thats what I really like about Kurdish people, they seem the only ones in that region who are diffrent and try to progress...Not like Afghans and Pakis who try to reverse time....

So you are neither afghan nor pakistani...some identity crisis going on..lol.

[Badlun]

Kurds and Balochs are not Islamists and that is why I love them. Islamism has destroyed Pashtuns.

In Pakistan as well as Afghanistan only Pashtuns are extremists and Islamists. Punjabis and Tajiks are either secular or Sufi kind of Muslims but rarely Wahabis or Salafis.

[Badlun]

Which middle easteners? Italians/Greeks/Mediterranean Europeans are very similar to Turkish, Lebanese, Syrians and you can even extend their similarity to Kurds, Iranians, Afghans, Northern pakistanis (dardic) people. They are all historically linked and are pretty similar. South Asians and Arabs (Gulf Arabs) are very different from them

During my interaction with Europeans I love Spanish speaking people, then Italians and some times French. Germans are highly mechanical and artificial. The middle way is Spanish/Latin.

One extreme is German , the other may be African/Asian/Pashtun. German is more development but less humanism, African is more humanism but less development. Spanish/Latin is the ideal golden mean.

[tripledouble]

Kurds and Balochs are not Islamists and that is why I love them. Islamism has destroyed Pashtuns.

Baloch are secular? lol

The most famous Baloch

Khaled Sheikh Mohammad


Ramzi Yousuf



They are far more Islamistic than kurds, they cover their womens up, you can never see a Baloch woman in Pakistan but you can see many Kurd women in the middle east, also there are many Kurd female fighters but no Baloch female fighters, there are even Pakistani female soldiers.

[Khostai]

So you are neither afghan nor pakistani...some identity crisis going on..lol.

Where did I claim I am not an Afghan? Please don't make things up that are not there. I know pakis love that, but this is a bad habbit, you are not a chiled anymore.

[Khostai]

Baloch are secular? lol

The most famous Baloch

Khaled Sheikh Mohammad


Ramzi Yousuf



They are far more Islamistic than kurds, they cover their womens up, you can never see a Baloch woman in Pakistan but you can see many Kurd women in the middle east, also there are many Kurd female fighters but no Baloch female fighters, there are even Pakistani female soldiers.

I think he meant that Baloch and Kurd independance movements are secular in nature. Not that all baloch are secular.

[tripledouble]

I think he meant that Baloch and Kurd independance movements are secular in nature. Not that all baloch are secular.

How?The baloch movement in iran has a wahabi angle, they see the Shia Persians as kafir and Baloch rebels there are linked with islamist, only the baloch movement in Pakistan can be considered somewhat 'secular' but still they are less advanced than kurds, there are hardly any female baloch fighters but female kurd fighters and you can hardly see any baloch woman in pakistan without burka, they also stay mostly indoors, so comparison is dumb and reeks of inferiority complex.

Also, what's interesting is that Baloch nationalists claim to be secular and don't care about religion(was told by a zikri baloch girl to my face) yet they ridicule Punjabis and Sindhis and call them hindus and jinnah 'kafir', i mean if they are secular then why care about declaring somebody a 'hindu' or 'kafir', they have a takfiri mindset to justify their racist tendencies

[Dhillon]

How?The baloch movement in iran has a wahabi angle, they see the Shia Persians as kafir and Baloch rebels there are linked with islamist, only the baloch movement in Pakistan can be considered somewhat 'secular' but still they are less advanced than kurds, there are hardly any female baloch fighters but female kurd fighters and you can hardly see any baloch woman in pakistan without burka, they also stay mostly indoors, so comparison is dumb and reeks of inferiority complex.



Also, what's interesting is that Baloch nationalists claim to be secular and don't care about religion(was told by a zikri baloch girl to my face) yet they ridicule Punjabis and Sindhis and call them hindus and jinnah 'kafir', i mean if they are secular then why care about declaring somebody a 'hindu' or 'kafir', they have a takfiri mindset to justify their racist tendencies

Yes, that seems very hypocritical. Do they hate Punjabis just because they're the majority or is it because they are an indic people ?

[tripledouble]

Yes, that seems very hypocritical. Do they hate Punjabis just because they're the majority or is it because they are an indic people ?

i think because they are indic; persians are also majority in iran and are oppresing baloch both for ethnic & religious reasons, but baloch don't show the same kind of racism towards persians, they look upto them.

[Dhillon]

i think because they are indic; persians are also majority in iran and are oppresing baloch both for ethnic & religious reasons, but baloch don't show the same kind of racism towards persians, they look upto them.

So they feel superior because Panjabis are indic and most (not all) are ex Hindus... Don't Persians call the Baloch minority in Iran "Pakis" anyway ? I don't understand the whole deal, I mean the Panjabi dominated government isn't helping Balochs but neither are they helping the average Panjabi. Its seems rather stupid if u ask me.

[Khostai]

How?The baloch movement in iran has a wahabi angle, they see the Shia Persians as kafir and Baloch rebels there are linked with islamist, only the baloch movement in Pakistan can be considered somewhat 'secular' but still they are less advanced than kurds, there are hardly any female baloch fighters but female kurd fighters and you can hardly see any baloch woman in pakistan without burka, they also stay mostly indoors, so comparison is dumb and reeks of inferiority complex.

Also, what's interesting is that Baloch nationalists claim to be secular and don't care about religion(was told by a zikri baloch girl to my face) yet they ridicule Punjabis and Sindhis and call them hindus and jinnah 'kafir', i mean if they are secular then why care about declaring somebody a 'hindu' or 'kafir', they have a takfiri mindset to justify their racist tendencies

Calling Punjabis kafir and hindu is just the truth, its is also becuase many punjabies claim to be good muslim what they are not, like some one who says that they speak the truth when you know that they are liars, you will call them liars, thats why Baluch and also Pashtuns call punjabis kafir and hindu and jinnah was a kafir as it can get. Because it is the truth.

[gadoonwal]

pashtu is unique language.Kurds are similar to persains so as their language.
All persainised nations celebrate nawroz.
Some of the words might sounds similars but still there is big difference.