Predominance of Dari in Afghanistan/Kabul

[Dawezai]

I am starting this thread to share my understanding about the predominance of Dari in Afghanistan generally and in Kabul in particular. Accordingly, the historical, political and social conditions/factors that played their role in promoting Dari will be discussed.

Historical Reasons
Historically, the province of Kabul has been the source of bureaucracy for the numerous rulers of Afghanistan. That the Afghan/Pashtun rulers relied on the educated elites of Kabul (as any other rulers of Afghanistan did before the Pashtuns) to construct a functional bureaucracy was neither their fault nor was it fault of the Pashtuns; it was rather a dictate of the contemporary conditions. There are four historical reasons why Dari predominated the Afghan state: firstly, the Dari-speakers of Kabul had been the white-collar job holders and had developed skills in bureaucracy and management; secondly, Pashtuns were mainly preoccupied with forming the state of Afghanistan and were busy in political consultations and wars that were necessary to forcefully win over different tribes and ethnicities that were opposed to forming a state; thirdly, Pashtun had had no experience in running bureaucracies; fourthly and lastly, Pashto, as a language, had not developed a bureaucratic jargon.

[MazloomYarMasud]

The reason why Pashto declinded and became a Language of casual talk was because Pashtun themselves were not interested in the true essence of Pashtun Nationalism we were soley indulged in non sense conflicts between our selves I.E Durrani vs ghilzai etc.

If Pashtuns cared so much for our land and being then we would not allow languages such as Dari to abuse the peace and sneekly take over and take everything that we fought for on a plate.

The Language of Dari is just as much of a threat than the Hindu/Dari language called Urdu.

Kind Regards

[Zarawar]

Nothing new, Kabul has always been populated by Dari speaking Pashtuns....

good thing, the beaurcrats and all the royals are gone, because now we don't have to depend on a bunch of crocked thieves.

The person that is going to run kabul has to have something in his brains, he is not going to be appointed just because he happens to be a ZAI or KHEL.

Wos da Maghzo aw da zoor dawran dai,

[amna.]

Very good start Dawezai this is a problem we have to figure out.

In my opinion the dominance of Dari is not because of Tajiks but it's because of Pashtuns themselves. I know 2 Pashtuns from Kabul both an speak Pashto but they choose and prefer Dari.

It's a shame really if you think about it. We are over 60percent but 20percent of our Pashtun population gets calculated as Tajiks.

[Millatpal Noorzai]

ډیره ښه سلسله ده بانډار دی را پیل کړی ده داویزئ صاحب
هغه اسباب چی تا ده دری ده ودی او ده پښتو ته ده پاتی په ګوتو کړی دی،کاملا پر ځائ دی
په تیرو لسو کلونو کی ده پښتو ده ودی لپاره ډیری هلی ځلی سوی دی او انشاءالله نور به پښتو هم ده دفتر ژبه وی
بله ښیګنه ده اوسنی حکومت هغه هڅی دی چی پښتو ته په دولتی/سرکاری کچه ډیر ملاتړ ور وکوی پر پرتله ده دری

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

The Language of Dari is just as much of a threat than the Hindu/Dari language called Urdu.

I personally think that Urdu is a blessed language.

[ayub]

Dari speakers /farsiwans are much more progressive and forward thinking. Normally highly educated. You can't blame them for pakthuns lack of imagination and enlightenment.

[Badlun]

I personally think that Urdu is a blessed language.

How can you say Urdu is a blessed language? how a language can be blessed? who has blessed Urdu specially? No language is blessed or not blessed. Its upon its users who are developed or not. Language becomes important when it is used for communication as a vehicle for speaking, reading, writing and listening.

Lnaguages are less or more important not blessed or cursed. English is importnat because its world wide used. Pashto is not important language because its not used as much even not used by its users Pashtuns for writing and reading almost
never in Pakistan and not that much as compared to farsi in Afghanistan.

[Zarawar]

Dari speakers /farsiwans are much more progressive and forward thinking. Normally highly educated. You can't blame them for pakthuns lack of imagination and enlightenment.

Watching bollywood movies, dressing like westerns, shaving beards and mustach, throwing off Niqabs/Hijabs and Teekrai doesn't make a race more progressive.
Alhamdulillah there are more educated and progressive Pashtuns than all the Dari-speakers combined.
It's the media that portray Pashtuns as ignorant, by making them "BAAT" about how fierce and ruthless they are, when it comes to fighting, killing and slaughtering.
Rasha da Pashtano da bal arkh ham wagora.

[ijaz yousafzai]

It does not seem a simple phenomenon. Wisemen say that if you want to subjugate a nation, then snatch away its language, first.

Gul raa sara sa okral, azgho raa sara sa okral
This is a long and chequered story. Pakhtun rulers, Pakhtun elites and Pakhtun masses are all responsible, besides the conspiracies of the " out siders".

[Zarawar]

Belkool mo khabara pa zai da, ^^^

[Nick]

Predominance of Dari in Afghanistan or in Kabul.

Well Difficult to discuss if you are not really aware of the history behind Dari. I have lots of disagreements and few agreements.

Dawezai it was very good start. However Did you know that in India a language was known as "Hindawi was very much like our Dari, weird to believe but believe it. It was there, if you want you can look at many form of history documents and you will witness what British calls "Persian", but the fact the Indians themselves called it Dari. Was it enforced upon them, brought by Muslims from Northern Areas or was it just adapted by the locals.

Well the history of Dari is deep inside Afghan land, by that many Iranians gets surprised when I say the names, writers or scrips of Ancient times ie 750 AD the first form of Dari was witnessed in Today's Taliban's strong hold LOL Yep Helmand. So hey believe it or not Dari is a mixture of Afghan and its native and adapted by the population. Due to its fame today there are millions of Afghans, lost their tribal roots, yet remained as Dari speakers, confused and mixed with other Ethnics/Immigrants.

[شمله ور خراساني]

the status of dari is not of our main concerns. We are bing occupied and colonized. But people rather ignore that and spend time discussing the role of language.

Before you know it, we will become like Pakistani Pashtuns. with the terrr and derrr in all those english words.

[MazloomYarMasud]

Boot the language of Dari out of all Pashtun areas. We should also place a Nationwide banning of the Urdu and Dari Language in Pakhtunkhwa.

That is the best solution.

[ayub]

^ yes. Or we can have a six month-a year boot camp where we fix them (from all Dari influence etc). LOL. :P