Pashto learning classپښتو درس

[din]

shabash tor khan

[Laila]

Tor khan, these videos that you are posting up, are they for beginners?

[tor_khan]

Sorry MsFuteDoc .. I missed that one.

I didn't post any videos .. although there are a serious of introductory videos on Youtube. Someone will have link somewhere.

In the Dars, I focussed mainly on script and getting familiar with it. I did add some audio links to the earlier lessons with translations. As it went on I changed more of the scripts to fit and the source text (that I linked to) and the audio sometimes differed a little.

But for an absolute beginner, I can see it might not be easy. To be honest, if you can follow the script, (Arabic), Pashto, Dari and Urdu are not so difficult even at post-beginner level.

My Pashto reading is mostly headlines, and short pieces of text. I find tiny script in a 300 page novel difficult to focus and concentrate on.

Do you hear the language much, because once you travel this summer and you are surrounded by Pashto, the conversations will slowly come InshAllah.

[Laila]

Sorry MsFuteDoc .. I missed that one.

I didn't post any videos .. although there are a serious of introductory videos on Youtube. Someone will have link somewhere.

In the Dars, I focussed mainly on script and getting familiar with it. I did add some audio links to the earlier lessons with translations. As it went on I changed more of the scripts to fit and the source text (that I linked to) and the audio sometimes differed a little.

But for an absolute beginner, I can see it might not be easy. To be honest, if you can follow the script, (Arabic), Pashto, Dari and Urdu are not so difficult even at post-beginner level.

My Pashto reading is mostly headlines, and short pieces of text. I find tiny script in a 300 page novel difficult to focus and concentrate on.

Do you hear the language much, because once you travel this summer and you are surrounded by Pashto, the conversations will slowly come InshAllah.

Yeah i watch those videos on youtube every now and then, but its so scattered around. Yeah i understood the first one you posted, but the others got difficult. I can follow the scripts, but like i said, i am wayyy in the beginning.....i just didnt want anyone to think that i wasnt following and that i wasnt taking the language serious, but i am. Just taking more time and doing it the way i can follow with my level of understanding.

[tor_khan]

Just taking more time and doing it the way i can follow with my level of understanding.

Perhaps the Dars was slightly more specialised ... but what you are saying in understandable, MsFuteDoc. I think that taking at your pace, is fine ... it will come, for you InshAllah.

We kind of need to look at some of the other vocab/grammar building threads here. We've got many who are willing to support if it involves Pashto in Roman script, I'm sure of that ...

[Laila]

No ustad wrora, you are doing an excellent job. Your contributions to this thread is greatly appreciated, unfortunetly, i am not up to that level, yet. I am slowly getting there. Learning a language is not easy and takes time. I will contribute more here when i get to this level.

[Nadir Shah]

پښتو درس


Pakhto Dars

د پښتو نهم (۹) درس

ګران ملګري، کشران، مشران اوعزيزان،
اسلام علیکم

I'm NOT a fan of long posts, and I suspect this one is going to turn out to be one. Apologies in advance.

Politics and Pashtoons go hand in glove, but then so do poets and Pashtoons and the love of the language.

And then there's history. The inspiration for today's lesson comes from somebody who combines all of this. And thank you to PF member, Din for posting this originally in the History section. I'm not able to acknowledge the source of Din's text, suffice to say, that I only present a version of it.

I've selected, primed and edited the first part of the text that Din posted about Dr Kabir Stori. For those additionally interested, I have my own dedication to this brilliant man here.

Please be aware of one thing. The text that Din posted, was, for me, not an easy read. My Pashto is hardly that of scholars. In anycase, I felt I had to change some of this to fit a little with my Yusufzai dialect (though nowadays you could quite safely add Logari to that since I spend alot of my free time with a Pashto-only Logari friend of mine).

Take the spelling for the word Doctor - I have seen it either ډاكټر، ډاكتر orداكتر
I could really do with help with words like that and with كښې/كې and welcome any knowledgable* opinion on this - *also spelt (spelled) knowledgeable (with the e)

{Perhaps I shouldn't complain about Pashto spelling when in last sentence I've already share two examples of English inconsistencies }

ُُُThat's the easy part - there are words that I don't use and words that appear interchangably in my experience (nwase نوسى / mase لمسى) for grandson for example. I chose nwase** since its closer to how I say it. **There's also nmase نمسی

I had 4 participants last time and as we draw closer to Dars number 10, I feel ready to hang up my mortar board and gown and pass this on. It takes some time on my part to think through the texts and I wish, I wish, I really wish I could add that little extra into this to encourage whole forum participation, because this is our language and we deserve full ownership of it. The trouble with an internet forum is that it's not a classroom and so it isn't the ideal medium in which to explore lots of different learning styles. I recognise that. Perhaps there are some amongst you who can think of another way. For my part, ډیره ډیره مننه because the overall support has been great.

Anyway here's the text:

ډاكتر كبير ستورى د لعل محمد خان زوى او د مېرزا محمد جان نوسى وو، چې په ۱۹۴۲ كال د كونړ ولايت د خاص كونړ اولسوالي د تنر په كلي كې زېږېدلى وو.
د هغه نيكه ميرزا محمد جان یو پوه مشر وو، هغه د اولسي خدمت او د كارونو نه علاوه د خپلې كورنۍ مشري هم كوله.
د دوی كورنۍ په هډ پښتانه دي او په ټبر(قوم) ميرداد خېل ، چې په وروستي پښتونو سره تړل كېږي.د كونړ دغه يوسفزيو ډېر پخوا د سوات او مردان د سيمو نه دلته راغلي وو او بيا په بېلا بېلو سيمو كې میشته شوي دي. داسې ډیر يوسفزي په دواړه لر و بر كې څانګې لري. په كونړ كې ساپي، مومند او نور ډېر قومونه هم ژوند كوي.
ستورى د شپږو خوېندو او د دوو وروڼو نازولى ورور وو، د هغه مشر ورور وكيل عبدالجليل ملنګ او كشر ورور يې محمد نعيم خان نومېږي، چې په خپله سيمه كې دواړه نومونه مشهور دي.

Questions below:

1. What (a) year was Kabir Stori born in and what (b) was the name of the village in which he was born?
2. Why was Kabir Stori's grandfather popular?
3. (a) What clan/tribe does the family belong to? (b) From where did they originate?
4. Define:

• زوى
• نيكه
• خوېندو او وروڼو

5. Name two other relatives of Kabir Stori and their relationship to him.

Oh, and like last time - can you PM me.

1 1942, Tanar.
2 Accroding to the txt, he was a tribal elder and was renowned for serving the masses.
3 Mirdad Khel, They are supposed to have originated from Mardan and Swat, though I believe it is the other way round.
4 Son, Grand father, Brothers and Sisters.
5 Elder bro: Wakil Abdul Jalil Malang. Younger bro: Mohammed Naeem Khan.

Is this a quiz or something, Tor Khan Wrora?

[tor_khan]

سلامونه ګران مینه وال
د پښتو درس جوابونه
Da Pukhto Dars Jawabuna

Thank you everyone who took part in the last Dars, in particular to ✓ Sina, ✓ Shlombay, ✓ Jasmine and ✓ Abu Baker who PMed me.

A reminder of the text and the questions:

ډاكتر كبير ستورى د لعل محمد خان زوى او د مېرزا محمد جان نوسى وو، چې په ۱۹۴۲ كال د كونړ ولايت د خاص كونړ اولسوالي د تنر په كلي كې زېږېدلى وو.
د هغه نيكه ميرزا محمد جان یو پوه مشر وو، هغه د اولسي خدمت او د كارونو نه علاوه د خپلې كورنۍ مشري هم كوله.
د دوی كورنۍ په هډ پښتانه دي او په ټبر(قوم) ميرداد خېل ، چې په وروستي پښتونو سره تړل كېږي.د كونړ دغه يوسفزيو ډېر پخوا د سوات او مردان د سيمو نه دلته راغلي وو او بيا په بېلا بېلو سيمو كې میشته شوي دي. داسې ډیر يوسفزي په دواړه لر و بر كې څانګې لري. په كونړ كې ساپي، مومند او نور ډېر قومونه هم ژوند كوي.
ستورى د شپږو خوېندو او د دوو وروڼو نازولى ورور وو، د هغه مشر ورور وكيل عبدالجليل ملنګ او كشر ورور يې محمد نعيم خان نومېږي، چې په خپله سيمه كې دواړه نومونه مشهور دي.

1. What (a) year was Kabir Stori born in and what (b) was the name of the village in which he was born?
2. Why was Kabir Stori's grandfather popular?
3. (a) What clan/tribe does the family belong to? (b) From where did they originate?
4. Define:
زوى
نيكه
خوېندو او وروڼو
5. Name two other relatives of Kabir Stori and their relationship to him.


Responses and Feedback

Sina

1a) he was born in the year 1942
1b) he was was born in the village of tanir.
2) he was a intelligent and the leader of the tribe.
3a) mirdad khael
3b) they came from swat & mardan
4) son ; grandfather ; brother & sister
5) wakil abdul jamil malang & muhammad naeem khan.


Shlombay

Da pa 1942 ki payda shuway wo pa taran ki, da khpal da wilayat sara der komak karey wo
merdadkhel wo pa kom bandey. da da mardan sakha wo.
Define
1)grandfather
sisters and brothers
Malang sab, mohammad nayem


Jasmine

he was born in 1942
he was born in tanar
he used to give support to his household.
he belonged to tabar tribe from swat.
Neka means Grand father
khondo oh wrono means sister and brother
wakeel amir malang, mohammad khan


abubaker

1 a() 1942
b() thanar
3() mirdad khel b()swat/mardan
4()
zoi= son
()neka=grand father
()khwaindo au wrunldo= of brothers and sisters
5=wakel abful jalel, older brother
()muhammad naeem= younger brother

Feedback

1. What (a) year was Kabir Stori born in and what (b) was the name of the village in which he was born? (a) Kabir Stori was born in 1942 (b) in the village of Tanar ✓Sina ✓Shlombay ✓Jasmine ✓AbuBaker - Answered Correctly all - Well Done
2. Why was Kabir Stori's grandfather popular? ✓Sina ✓Shlombay ✓Jasmine - Variations on the answer - Kabir Stori's grandfather was helped people in his Wilayat and in was the head of the family -
3. (a) What clan/tribe does the family belong to? ✓Sina ✓Shlombay ✓AbuBaker (b) From where did they originate? ✓Sina ✓AbuBaker - both answered Swat and Mardan - ✓Shlombay ✓Jasmine answered Swat and Mardan
4. Define:
زوى son نيكه grandfather خوېندو او وروڼو brothers and sisters
✓✓✓Sina ✓✓✓AbuBaker - answered all three
✓✓Shlombay ✓✓Jasmine - two correct answers
5. Name two other relatives of Kabir Stori and their relationship to him.
✓Sina ✓Shlombay ✓Jasmine named relatives, but ✓✓ AbuBaker also named the relationship

Thank you also to Nadir Shah for his posting ... also to Wardak, Handsome for showing an interest. Apologies if this feedback comes before you got to PM me your responses.

One other thing. Shlombay - you're magic. You posted on so many visitor boards, trying to recruit people to take part in the Dars. For the effort, you deserve a badge of your own.

[tor_khan]

Kha charey Tor Khan
Staso pakhtu darsona ma walwastal aw deer ziata faiida ye matha rawaresdaa.
sanga chey taso pa di akherey dars ki da Dr. Kabir storey pa jond bandey ranra (Light) wachawala hom daghasey ka taso Ahmed shah Baba, Mirwais, Shershah, khushal, Rahman baba....aw nor khaghaley pokhtana hom pa khapal dars ki ramanz tha kaii no deer ba kha wey.
mananaa

سرباز خان پخیر

درسونه لږشان تیاری غواری او نن سبا زمونږ د پښتون فارم غړی اُسوهم درسونه شروع کړی دی نو ځکه لږ غلی یم

I've got an idea for Dars No 10, InshAllah (a kind of recap), but beyond that ... willing to pass this one on ...

[tor_khan]

I've an idea for a recap lesson connected to a search within the forum. It'll make more sense when it is posted up here, InshAllah.

[*Mahzala*]

I'll be in class this time, definitely. Looking forward to it. =)

[tor_khan]

پښتو درس
Pakhto Dars

د پښتو لسم (۱۰) درس

ګران غړیوال، ډیر ډیر سلامونه

Dear Forum Members & Visitors,

Toloo ta dzma Salaamoona. Just before we begin, a couple of notes.

There have been some positive contributions to the Pashto Language Section and I wanted to offer the space for other contributors to share. So thank you to Osho, Shlombay etc. Also, Osho has requested some assistance with putting together a set of Lessons with scripting and voice etc. Volunteers ...?


Today's Dars is all about the written language and how we can use the Forum to help us with script. I want this to be easy and so your responses may not need to you to type anything at all – all the answers should be possible by copy/paste. The key however, is that we are responding by using Pashto script. Oh, and when posting back to the board, you might want to use text size 4 or 5/right justify, which always appears to be the most comfortable size for Pashto script.

For those unused to writing in Pashto ... how about finishing off with typing your name in Pashto? There are several tutorials on typing – and remember, typed once, you can always copy and paste.

Today's lesson also serves as something of a review, and will give us an opportunity to explore our forum that little bit further. When Admin Khan and I first came up with the idea for forum titles in Pashto, I did an outline translation of the forum titles. I used the terms/expressions that I knew, with some modifications and the headings then changed a couple of times to get closer to the Pashto and so that we have the titles as you see them (other contributors also helped shape this). I don’t insist you use the headings as they appear, for example if you call a photograph an عكس or a تصوير then that is fine too.

Part A

I want to do this in two parts. The first is vocabulary. I will show the English. Contributors show me the Pashto. This list is not exhaustive and is really to get us started so perhaps you can challenge one another with a similiar exercise.

Ready? Using the forum, can you find the Pashto headings for:

1. Hujra
2. Pashto Language
3. New Member
4. Science
5. Fashion
6. Pashtun History

Part B

The second part requires you to read this story here. It’s a bit of light reading and features the wit and humour of one of my favourite characters from story telling traditions - Mullah Nasserudeen (more on my blog). I really like the clever surprises and the annecdotes of these tales and this one is a classic gem. These stories have the added value in that they have made their way into Western story telling and shows that Muslims can be funny, and clever too and that we don't all walk around as if we were permanently affected by grey weather. Thank you Handsome Pashtun for this.

The task is similar to Part A, except this time I’m looking at phrases/and sentences. Read the story and match up the phrase/sentences here. The initial ی is missing, but the rest of the story reads perfectly well. Can you find the Pashto phrases/sentences that match the following?

• The aroma of pulao from a popular shop reached him

• The poor man was surprised

• He said to everyone that the story’s decision would be taken tomorrow

• He met Mullah Nasserudeen

• He told the judge that he was the poor man’s brother

Answers via PM as per the last couple of lessons. Once I've got a few responses, I'll post back to the board.

[tor_khan]

I've had a number of PMs/VMs with regards to this Dars.

I understand that a number of members have finals that they need to concentrate on.

No pressures to participate.

I'll hold off posting answers back to the board just yet.

[spogmai shaglay]

Great Work Tor Khan......i went through all the lessons......and have also sent to a pm regarding this Dars....
u r a great teacher...
looking forward to more such lessons....

[Badlun]

Tor Khan

I am really proud of you who dedicate himself to the teaching of a language about which people say that Pashtana pa har tsah Pashto kawi kho pa pashto pashto na kawi,,,,,,,,,we have honor for all but not for Pashto language. I really appreciate you and friends and who promote Pashto because its a langauge without any court patronage and any material benifits.

I am also specially thankful to you for your assistance in writing Pashto in the Pashto course topic.

These lessons are complementary to that course and that course is complementary to these lessons. I ll copy some parts of these lessons specially for listening comprehension part. Ultimately the purpose is to serve the sweet Pashto.