Pashto learning classپښتو درس

[Yousafzai Pakhtun]

Masc/Feminine noun forms are absent in Farsi (like English), but not so in Pashto. To a single gentlemen you would say, "Staray Mashey", to a single lady you would say "Staree Mashey", to a mixed audience you would say "Staree Masheyy" (hang on the the "y" sound at the end for emphasis).

Opinions on this people?

well dear i don't think there is any difference in saying "Staray Mashey" to either to a single gentle man or single lady.........
it is ستړے مشے as we write it for both masc and fem...there is no difference in our peshawari lehja..

[tor_khan]

well dear i don't think there is any difference in saying "Staray Mashey" to either to a single gentle man or single lady.........
it is ستړے مشے as we write it for both masc and fem...there is no difference in our peshawari lehja..

Thanks for that يوسفزے ! OK, now I need a lesson on the narina ے and ى

[Yousafzai Pakhtun]

Thanks for that يوسفزے ! OK, now I need a lesson on the narina ے and ى

well sir, i will try to teach u according to my little knowledge:
My dear in Pukhto for narina i.e masculine we use "ے" and for zanana i.e feminine is "ۍ": as is abvious from the following examples:
for male goat we use "ے" and for female "ۍ" is used:
چېلے (male) چېلۍ (female)
other examples are
کوچے او کوچۍ
زمرے او زمرۍ
سپے او سپۍ
سخے او سخۍ(calf)

some people got confused with another "ئ" which is called يائے امر i.e it is only used when an order is given and so it can't be used for a female...
example of "ئ" are:
جنګ مۀ کوئ
کور ته ځئ
درس وايئ
کنځل مۀ کوئ
but the point here to be noted that "Yaa-e-amar" i.e "ئ" could only be used for plural as is abvious from above examples. for a singular noun the above example will be:
جنګ مۀ کوه
کور ته ځه
درس وايه
کنځل مۀ کوه
so dears today i told u about three types of "yaa's" i.e "ے", "ۍ" and "ئ" there are some other types which are "ې" and "ي" ....will tell u about them soon when i got some time.....

Regards,

[*Mahzala*]

Masc/Feminine noun forms are absent in Farsi (like English), but not so in Pashto. To a single gentlemen you would say, "Staray Mashey", to a single lady you would say "Staree Mashey", to a mixed audience you would say "Staree Masheyy" (hang on the the "y" sound at the end for emphasis).

Opinions on this people?

Exactly what I would have said. I think 'starhai mashey' was just an example. On a general note, differentiating between the gender's does matter.

You see MFD Dari/Farsi doesn't have this, that's why it makes learning Pakhto a tad harder. In Dari you would say: Kujau rafta budi to both males and females. Whereas in Pakhto, to a male you would say: Cherta telaiwey, and to a female: Cherta telewey. You ask of its importance, and if it is really needed - put it this way - you don't ever want to be addressing either gender in the wrong way.

In saying that, this is not just limited to people. Objects are also categorised as masc/fem based on the way they are written. And so its plural form is also based on whether it is masculine or feminine. I would love to go into this, as of ALL th languages of the world, this is unique to us, but it might confuse you a lot more (I did write it all up, but then thought to save it for another lesson).

Tor_Khan, we should go into 'Tsalor shikli sifaat' soon. It is complex, but part of the basics. What say?

EDIT: A bit repetitive of the previous post. Apologies.

[tor_khan]

Salaamoona يوسفزے !

Thanks for that - it was very useful.

Am I right that the use of ے and ى for the male form appears to be regional (ے) is common in Pakistan, whilst (ى) in Afghanistan - for the male form that is.

ستړى مشى/ستړے مشے - both exist, right?

On http://www.pakhtun.com/Majlas/viewtopic.php?p=543 I find the form

ستړۍ مه شې - ??? This uses - ۍ - which is the female ya

Confused, but is this because the standards vary?

[tor_khan]

Exactly what I would have said. I think 'starhai mashey' was just an example. On a general note, differentiating between the gender's does matter.

You see MFD Dari/Farsi doesn't have this, that's why it makes learning Pakhto a tad harder. In Dari you would say: Kujau rafta budi to both males and females. Whereas in Pakhto, to a male you would say: Cherta telaiwey, and to a female: Cherta telewey. You ask of its importance, and if it is really needed - put it this way - you don't ever want to be addressing either gender in the wrong way.

In saying that, this is not just limited to people. Objects are also categorised as masc/fem based on the way they are written. And so its plural form is also based on whether it is masculine or feminine. I would love to go into this, as of ALL th languages of the world, this is unique to us, but it might confuse you a lot more (I did write it all up, but then thought to save it for another lesson).

Tor_Khan, we should go into 'Tsalor shikli sifaat' soon. It is complex, but part of the basics. What say?

EDIT: A bit repetitive of the previous post. Apologies.

Mesbah - you're a treasure trove of knowledge ... Thanks for that ... I sense a lesson here ....

[*Mahzala*]

Mesbah - you're a treasure trove of knowledge ... Thanks for that ... I sense a lesson here ....

Tor_Khan - coming from a person like you, I take that as a really big compliment. Thank you for that, and you're most welcome. Ze ba khpela khwaley asmaan ta wachoma ke ze de Pakhto ilm sorey (shadow) ta hum worasegema.

... you do? So do I (we're in this together). Well, then, I suppose, it is on me sometime soon.

Afghanmeansdanger: I agree. There are many other members here too, who can share a LOT. We have hidden 'bundle of talents' here ... Zanuna kharakey kana!

[Son of Mountains]

waahhh......great thread indeed......Yousapzai and tor khan are doing a great job....May God bless both of you

[*Mahzala*]

Haha, yes they are eggzakklee that! Pete Khazaney!

[tor_khan]

Thank you so much for your duas.

A lot of positive energy here. I am humbled.

ډیره ډیره مننه

[tor_khan]

پښتو درس

Pakhto Dars

د پښتو شپږم (۶) درس

د سلامونه سره

To all my deepest salaam and thanks for your encouraging words. Thanks too to all that are willing to post their thoughts, answers, questions and guidance. ډيره ډيره مننه

I needed a couple of days to catch up on things, hence the pause. Anyway, I'm back with some reading, adapted from a source available at http://gloss.dliflc.edu/products/glo...14_source.html
The audio/English translations are here too.

Adapting the text, actually helps me better understand what I want to present, so for me it's been a useful learning experience (such as spotting a spelling error in the original text!)

As per previous lessons, I have added 6 questions. I had this idea of 'hiding' responses from the board by asking contributors to PM first, but I'm still undecided. I want people to contribute by posting up their responses, but I figure that when people see a response, it might be somewhat preventative. Not quite sure how to get past that one just yet.

Anyway, no worries. Here is Lesson 6. Take care, enjoy and salaam.

Look at the passage:

ستارخان: ابراهيم خانه سلام عليکم! څنګه يې؟

ابراهيم خان: وعليکم سلام ستار خانه. زه ښه يم. ډيره مننه

ستارخان: ته خبر يې چه د جمعې په شپه د نغمې کنسرت دی؟

ابراهيم خان: نه، زه خبر نه يم . په څو بجو او په کوم ځای کې دی؟

ستار خان: د شپې په اته بجو په کابل کې دی. راځه چه ورسو

ابراهيم خان: والله وروره، ډيره بخښنه غواړم . زه په دغه وخت کې نوکري ته ځم

Questions:

1. Who is Sattar Khan speaking with?
2. Who is Sattar Khan speaking about?
3. What other way can we say د جمعې شپه
4. Name the time and the place that is mentioned.
5. How would you translate (into Pashto) the following:

• I am well
• I do not know
• I am sorry

6. Why can't Sattar Khan's friend attend at that time?

[tor_khan]

Jasmine, Salaamoona



Thanks for starting this off. I like your answers. Well done.

I want to expand on these responses, so a quick look back at questions 3 and 5.

3. What other way can we say د جمعې شپه
5. How would you translate (into Pashto) the following:

• I am well
• I do not know
• I am sorry

Can we find the answers in the text and match up the Pashto script and the English (copy and paste)?

[tor_khan]

when is the next lesson coming?

Jinkay - there are a couple of questions (see above - Posting Number 86) still unanswered ...

[tor_khan]

• I am well
• I do not know
• I am sorry

1)Za sha yama
2)Za wala nayam khabar
3)Za bakhshana ghwarama

Shlombay - thank you for your contribution - you get smilies . There is still a "sticker" for someone who can answer Q3 ...

[tor_khan]

zo padey khabara hairan yam chei da ے pa pokhto ki shtey aw kanah?? aw monga da pa pokhto key use kaw...

Sarbaz Khana ... da postuna ugora -

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