A Look at the Karlani Dialects of Paktia and Wardak - For Haris

[MostafaM]

Butterfly was shamparaka I tought???

And mangal don't say ye ye, Tanai peopel use that.....

Mangals say yey to Yes.
Both Musakhel and Janikhel Mangals.

No need to correct me in this:
I am a Mangal and Mangals and Zazais know each other. ^^

[Khostai]

^ I am mangal too. and I am from Khost, the peopel that are famous in Khost that says ye for yes are Tanai, in our house we don't use ye to yes, and the rest of the family that are in Khost also don't use ye ye.
Meyebe Zazai use them, but that's the forst time I hear tha Mangal also say ye.
:S

[MostafaM]

As far as I know my own family (Mangal/Zadran mix from Dads side), my relatives (both Musakhel and Janikhel Mangals) from Paktia and Khurram across the imaginary border Mangals say "ye".

So you are Mangal, too?
Nice.

Musakhel ye ya Janikhel?
Ze Musakhel yem aw pe Musakhel ke Miralkhel yem.

[Afghanistan2010]

Mostafa,
pe zadrune ke de lmare zadrun yeh / shamal yeh / de tangi zadrun yeh ?

ka de paktiyaa yeh wrora no by ya de shamal ya de tangi yeh....


za zadran yam-

[Afghanistan2010]

Butterfly = patarRna...

[khushal]

Mangals say yey to Yes.
Both Musakhel and Janikhel Mangals.

No need to correct me in this:
I am a Mangal and Mangals and Zazais know each other. ^^

You are correct Mostafa. Mangals say "yey yey" and we zazi say "au" but the mangals and zazi in khost usually adapt the khost dialect so I think that is why khostia thinks that mangals dont say it.


kharoti also say "yey yey"

[khushal]

how about these words:


pine nuts = zor-ghun-zi
almond = bo-dom
walnut = wogh-zon
yellow finch = zair qoch
peacock = tawus
dove = kuftera
mosquito = mon-gaus

[MostafaM]

Mostafa,
pe zadrune ke de lmare zadrun yeh / shamal yeh / de tangi zadrun yeh ?

ka de paktiyaa yeh wrora no by ya de shamal ya de tangi yeh....


za zadran yam-

Afghanistana wrora,

my grandmother from my dad´s side was Zadrana. I never really asked him where she was from.

Plor na me che pukhtena krem biya derta wayem. Zmung koraney ham de Khurram na di aw ham de Paktia na.

[MostafaM]

You are correct Mostafa. Mangals say "yey yey" and we zazi say "au" but the mangals and zazi in khost usually adapt the khost dialect so I think that is why khostia thinks that mangals dont say it.


kharoti also say "yey yey"

I have never heard Khosti dialect in my life.
Is it much different than ours, Khushala?

I understand Zazai and Zadranan perfectly well.

My problem is with the Mashreqi, Kandahari and Peshawri dialects.
The deep Kandahari dialect is just out of reach for me because I hardly have talked to any in real life.

[Hakim Khan Urgonai]

Mangal dialect is almost the same as Zazai dialect.

We just use "yey" instead of "wo" or "au" which means "Yes".

My Zazai friends make fun of me whenever I say "yey" and call Mangal dialect "Compton Pashto" with the reference to "Yeah Yeah" talking in Rap Music.

lol @ Compton Pashto. Reminds me of lughat which is more or less a rap battle.

Mangals of Kurram say "yeh", like Bannuchis and Khostwals.

Wazirs, Maseeds and Zadrans say "eh", with out the y sound.

[Hakim Khan Urgonai]

^ I am mangal too. and I am from Khost, the peopel that are famous in Khost that says ye for yes are Tanai, in our house we don't use ye to yes, and the rest of the family that are in Khost also don't use ye ye.
Meyebe Zazai use them, but that's the forst time I hear tha Mangal also say ye.
:S

I heard Taniwals and Khostwals saying "yeh".

I like the Taniwal accent a lot.

[Hakim Khan Urgonai]

kharotis also say "yey yey"

We don't use "yeh", we say "wo" but "ya" means no in our dialect, like Kandaharis.

[Hakim Khan Urgonai]

how about these words:


pine nuts = zor-ghun-zi
almond = bo-dom
walnut = wogh-zon
yellow finch = zair qoch
peacock = tawus
dove = kuftera
mosquito = mon-gaus

pine nuts: chalghozi
almond: badaam
walnut: akhrot
peacock: tawus
dove: kontara / kawtara
mosquito: masha

don't know about yellow finch.

[Hakim Khan Urgonai]

I have never heard Khosti dialect in my life.
Is it much different than ours, Khushala?

I understand Zazai and Zadranan perfectly well.

My problem is with the Mashreqi, Kandahari and Peshawri dialects.
The deep Kandahari dialect is just out of reach for me because I hardly have talked to any in real life.

Khost Pashto is like this:

Aziz khost drama - YouTube[/URL]

Kandahari Urban Pashto is hard to understand, but our overall dialect is similar.

[Afghanistan2010]

We have huge groups among Zadran tribe,some among us say yee who are closer to Mangal,the rest say "eyy" = yes.