A Look at the Karlani Dialects of Paktia and Wardak - For Haris

[زده کوونکی]

You're a lying piece of garbage, why should anyone believe you? You seem to think you have some sort of legitimacy that would cause me to believe your words. You don't. You're a serial liar and phony.

I'm actually amazed you're willing to put your face out there when everyting else about you is a fraud. You'd think a human would have enough shame to at least keep themselves anonymous, but you seem to have some pride in being worthy of no respect.

Everyone can tell they're your accounts. Yes, you pathetically conversed with yourself for like 5 hours between your Zdakawoonkay and Pakhtun345 accounts, attempting to spread disinformation about "connections" between Awadhi and Pashto.



The problem isn't that you make mistakes, it's that you're a phony who pretends to know more than he actually does. As Hakim Khan Urgonai, you pretended to be from Khost, and to have lived among the speakers of these dialects. If you had just come out and said you heard these dialects in songs and wanted to discuss them, there'd have been no problem. But because you have a neurotic need to lie, you invented a fake personality and attempted to legitimize yourself as someone who is teaching rather than learning.

And you're still doing that. Your pashto grammar is pretty bad (I'm actually surprised at it considering you clearly have learnt a large vocabulary from all the songs you listen to), and yet you come here offering to teach Pashto for a fee.

You're actually a lot like Dhul Fiqar. A weirdo who needs to get out more, but instead acts like he knows more than he does, and spends all his time spreading misinformation on the internet. I don't know what about this board attracts your kind, but you need to go away and never come back.

We need a separate forum for people like killzai, Dhul Fiqar, and Karachi. We can call it "Pashtun Forum Rejects," or maybe "Wannabe Pashtun Forums." Just let them spread their stupidity among themselves. Maybe Iblis and the like can occasionally step in to remind them of how pathetic they are lol.

I know you won't believe it but Pakhtun345 (or anyone else on here) is not me. I do not have more than one account. Ask Admin Khan to check that for you - he can tell you that the IPs are not the same and don't even try to say that I have VPN - I don't even use that in Dubai where half the internet (including WhatsApp, Viber, FaceTime and Skype) is blocked but I'm going to use it to make different accounts on this forum while in the UK? Yeah right

[maneatinglizard]

I know you won't believe it but Pakhtun345 (or anyone else on here) is not me. I do not have more than one account. Ask Admin Khan to check that for you - he can tell you that the IPs are not the same and don't even try to say that I have VPN - I don't even use that in Dubai where half the internet (including WhatsApp, Viber, FaceTime and Skype) is blocked but I'm going to use it to make different accounts on this forum while in the UK? Yeah right

Again, you have no credibility.

You need to get that through your head. I don't care about your made up stories of what you do in Dubai, or anywhere else. It's highly likely that those stories are made up too, as, and you don't seem to understand this so I'm going to make it nice and clear:

You're a liar with 0 credibility.

You're not fooling anyone. You're not clever. And unless you're making a fool of yourself in those embarrassing videos, you're not funny.

Just cut the act and go away. If you actually wanted to learn Pashto, you'd take a course. But we all know that's not what you're after, because no one is learning Pashto on this forum. You just want to troll and feel special.

[زده کوونکی]

Again, you have no credibility.

You need to get that through your head. I don't care about your made up stories of what you do in Dubai, or anywhere else. It's highly likely that those stories are made up too, as, and you don't seem to understand this so I'm going to make it nice and clear:

You're a liar with 0 credibility.

You're not fooling anyone. You're not clever. And unless you're making a fool of yourself in those embarrassing videos, you're not funny.

Just cut the act and go away. If you actually wanted to learn Pashto, you'd take a course. But we all know that's not what you're after, because no one is learning Pashto on this forum. You just want to troll and feel special.

Fine, don't believe me.

And if there was somewhere in London where I could take an actual Pashto course, I would have done so years ago, but I have not come across any legit Pashto courses. In Pakistan they are also few and far between (NUML in Islamabad does but I am not currently based there).

[maneatinglizard]

Fantastic post brother wherever you are. Many thanks for acknowledging and mentioning words that we say normally in our dialect yet never hear other Pakhtuns use at all.

We always in our dialect say:

E moo-for we or ours as opposed to zamung
Tikala- for bread or a meal as opposed to dodai
Urkai- for boy as opposed to alak
Yayam-to say or saying-as opposed to wayam

There are certain other words we use that I have never heard other Pakhtuns use such as:

Zeyre- swearing/obscenities
Oya- eggs
Mangor-snake
Meysht-moon
Meyr-sun
Oore-over there
Shodde-milk

You're from FATA?

Those words aren't used in KP right?

[maneatinglizard]

And if there was somewhere in London where I could take an actual Pashto course, I would have done so years ago, but I have not come across any legit Pashto courses. In Pakistan they are also few and far between (NUML in Islamabad does but I am not currently based there).

So instead you do the next best thing, which is create a bunch of fake personas and spread misinformation and theories as fact, right?

Sounds like a great plan.

[زده کوونکی]

So instead you do the next best thing, which is create a bunch of fake personas and spread misinformation and theories as fact, right?

Sounds like a great plan.

Not much else I could have done tbh. This is the only "decent" or functioning Pashtun forum and I do not have any Pashtun friends in the UK - I've only spoken Pashto 4 times in London with random Pashtuns on the street or in stores. My Pashtun friends from Pakistan, tho I am not in regular touch with anyone from back home, there isn't a single one that can keep speaking Pashto without breaking into English and Urdu every other sentence. Also, its awkward for me to speak Pashto with relatives (when my Pashto-speaking address me, I usually reply in Urdu or English; when those who speak Urdu address me in Urdu, I reply in English - its weird).

I never intended to spread misinformation, I was overconfident. I thought I knew what I was talking about - apparently not. I apologize for that and will not do it again.

[Charsi Malang]

You're from FATA?

Those words aren't used in KP right?

Within walking distance of FATA but I was born and raised in London. I haven’t heard any other Pakhtuns outside of my own relatives and kaliwal use the words I have outlined. I didn’t realise that these words were inherently a part of the vocabulary of only karlanri Pakhtuns.

[a.s.takhar]

I read this a while back, and noticed some mistakes in the description of Zazi Pashto. I guess that's what happens when you learn a language by listening to songs. Anyway, it seems like people were catching onto killzai's lies when he mixed up various dialects, I'm surprised no one outright called him out on it. I'm a little disappointed that we had people from the various tribes he was lying about that didn't catch his errors lol.

By the way, it's thread like this (along with the blatant attacks on Islam he makes on his other accounts) that are the reason I think this loser needs to be permanently banned (along with all his alts). He's purposely spreading misinformation about Pashto and Pashtuns. We already have a problem with a lack of good information on our language and culture in English, the BS this obsessive weirdo spreads just makes the situation worse.

It's funny because I only recently learned that "Hakim Khan Urgonai" was killzai, but I had planned on adding to this thread, and correcting some of the errors, for a long time now.

It's also funny that killzai is adamantly denying that ShahiZai, kanishka, Pakhtun345, etc. are him, when his comment on this thread proves that he has a history of making fake personalities up and lying about various tribes. Dude wont stop PMing me as Pakhtun345.

I have been reading his posts. He should not be banned. He is v intelligent and v good person.

[Traveller]

You're from FATA?

Those words aren't used in KP right?

Part of KP(Karak, Hangu, Kohat, and Nowshera) is populated by the Karlani Khattak and Bangash tribes.

[a.s.takhar]

I wrote this 6 years ago when this forum was very different place.
Thread started by me in 2012 but its still relevant today

Your posts are excellent, and great skills in languages. Thank you and stay well.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

I always found it peculiar why Killzai latched himself on to us. Maybe he was traumatized over the fact that most Pashtuns/Afghans could give two flying F*kks for Ghetto Culture ....since for awhile he was really heavily influenced by RAP/Hip Hip culture ...he probably thought that Pashtuns would have some natural affinity for Ghetto culture due to Pashtuns having that "tough guy" image that he admired iin "Rappers". Not thinking that the average Pashtun would shun such people because they're low life pieces of human trash with no morals. How can we respect people who let their women have children with five different fathers and leach on welfare? That Ghetto/Gangster culture is full of cucks. Anyways I''m getting off track. But I think that's what scarred him because he made an angry rant video on YouTube where he's talking like he's from Jamaica lol




He's using Pashto insults he learned from InsultMonger.com, which are not even Actually Pashto insults, but mixed Pashto-Hindko insults and with the thickest gandu accent imaginable lol.

Anyways he's fun, but also an idiot and he's several different people. Although I will say I think some of these "Ibrahim-Shahizai" troll profiles might be Afghanfootball or one of his friends. You know them by their spiel.

[زده کوونکی]

I always found it peculiar why Killzai latched himself on to us. Maybe he was traumatized over the fact that most Pashtuns/Afghans could give two flying F*kks for Ghetto Culture ....since for awhile he was really heavily influenced by RAP/Hip Hip culture ...he probably thought that Pashtuns would have some natural affinity for Ghetto culture due to Pashtuns having that "tough guy" image that he admired iin "Rappers". Not thinking that the average Pashtun would shun such people because they're low life pieces of human trash with no morals. How can we respect people who let their women have children with five different fathers and leach on welfare? That Ghetto/Gangster culture is full of cucks. Anyways I''m getting off track. But I think that's what scarred him because he made an angry rant video on YouTube where he's talking like he's from Jamaica lol




He's using Pashto insults he learned from InsultMonger.com, which are not even Actually Pashto insults, but mixed Pashto-Hindko insults and with the thickest gandu accent imaginable lol.

Anyways he's fun, but also an idiot and he's several different people. Although I will say I think some of these "Ibrahim-Shahizai" troll profiles might be Afghanfootball or one of his friends. You know them by their spiel.

I stopped listening to rap along time ago, maybe months after I made that video.

And please - Insultmonger etc can't even get a widely spoken language like Urdu or Punjabi right, forget about Pashto. The stuff I said in this video are used by Pakhtuns of KPK - specifically Peshawar and Swat/Dir.

Otherwise, you can go get yourself a new wig. "Koda"

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

I stopped listening to rap along time ago, maybe months after I made that video.

And please - Insultmonger etc can't even get a widely spoken language like Urdu or Punjabi right, forget about Pashto. The stuff I said in this video are used by Pakhtuns of KPK - specifically Peshawar and Swat/Dir.

Otherwise, you can go get yourself a new wig. "Koda"

I clearly saw "Spee bachiya" on insult monger.. I definitely never hear it in Afghaniztan, maybe spe-zoi or khozzoi but even those are more contemporary.


Listening to rap is one thing, Trying to act like it is another. I listen to rap, but I wouldn't be caught dead acting like I'm from the Ghetto. I live a comfy life in the burbs and I prefer to keep it that way.

[Traveller]

I clearly saw "Spee bachiya" on insult monger.. I definitely never hear it in Afghaniztan, maybe spe-zoi or khozzoi but even those are more contemporary.

You guys don't use "spee bachiya" in Afghanistan? It's used a lot in Northern KPK although "Khar bachiya" is used more often.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

You guys don't use "spee bachiya" in Afghanistan? It's used a lot in Northern KPK although "Khar bachiya" is used more often.

I've never really heard it, who knows maybe in some parts? usually bacha means boy ...so, it wouldn't make much sense.