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  • #46
    1- laral, darlodal
    2- kedal ( or i think kedal is becoming..?)
    3- ghukhtal

    but that is not how it works....

    I am no bird, and no nest ensnares me.

    non commercial would cost less if he was in charge himself which he plans on doing. right now it's n herat but soon it will be in qanadahar.

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    • #47
      So, the endings are "al" for verbs/?. So, if you take out the "al" you are left with the stem?

      What do you mean by it does not work like this?

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Jasmine
        I want to be a teacher = Za ghwaram che malim sam.

        How would you break down the above?

        Za=
        ghwaram=
        che=
        malim=
        sam=

        Thank you.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Ashiq View Post
          How would you break down the above?

          Za=
          ghwaram=
          che=
          malim=
          sam=

          Thank you.

          Za= I
          ghawaram=want
          che= 'to be' form
          malim=teacher
          sam= (goes with your verb form....to be > che____ sam)

          Thank you= manana


          Btw, i am just in beginners Pashto too...though i know more now.


          advice from me: be patient, its not an easy language to learn

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          • #50
            For someone who knows Dari, Pashto is a very easy language. If 5 year old's can do it, so can anyone else.
            Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.

            A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai

            For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."


            The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!

            -Ferishta, 1560–1620

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Admin Khan View Post
              For someone who knows Dari, Pashto is a very easy language. If 5 year old's can do it, so can anyone else.
              Actually not entirely. I mean it may be easy for some, and hard for others. I have been learning for a year now, i am still not down with all the verb conjugations. There are also many rules to Pashto. In Dari, as you are taking to someone, you dont have to necessarily worry about feminine and masculine forms.

              Btw, did i reply correctly to Ashiqs post? i want to see if i did it right

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Laila View Post
                Actually not entirely. I mean it may be easy for some, and hard for others. I have been learning for a year now, i am still not down with all the verb conjugations. There are also many rules to Pashto. In Dari, as you are taking to someone, you dont have to necessarily worry about feminine and masculine forms.

                Pashto can't be taught over night. In order to excel,
                It requires the learner to strive, and to be focused. In your case Laila, it's hard for you to focus(which is why it's taking you so long). You are a Pre-med college student[Lots of Labs], you are a volunteer at a hospital, and I am sure you have a lot of other priorities. So when you prioritize, you easily pick College over Pashto, which is perfectly reasonable, after applying a cost-benefit analysis. Now if someone who knows Dari, and knows Urdu sits down and really focuses and pays attention to how Pashto works, and watches a few Pashto movies/dramas, it won't be long to realize how similar Pashto is to other languages. You can't have your mind preoccupied with many tasks, and then expect to learn Pashto. I know white Americans who learned Pashto, what did it take them? Consistency sprinkled with constant effort. Oh, and you must be focused. Laila, if you were to drop school, drop your job, and sit down and focus, I am extremely confident that you can pick up the language in several months. Now would you be an expert at it? Of course not. Even I am not an expert, but you would at least be able to converse in Pashto. In conclusion, it all comes down to ones personal effort and how much they have in their plate. Is Pashto an easy language? If you know Urdu, and Dari yes it is. It's not difficult at all, to at least apprehend the basic structure of Pashto. In short, if Pashto arouses Aashiqs curiosity, he can pick it up in months. If he focuses and actually pays attention to what he is doing, and constantly follows up on his lessons, I don't see any difficulties at all. Is Pashto difficult for someone who doesn't know Dari, Urdu and Arabic letters? I would say it's rather complicated. Aashiq on our hand, I assume, can read Arabic letters so all he has to learn is a few extra letters and he is already an avid Pashto reader.
                Btw, did i reply correctly to Ashiqs post? i want to see if i did it right
                Yes, Good job.
                Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.

                A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai

                For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."


                The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!

                -Ferishta, 1560–1620

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Roshina
                  Good job breaking it down, Laila!

                  One correction, though.

                  "Che" = that.

                  The sentence I want to be a doctor in Pashto would read Za ghwaram che doctor/doctora sham. Literally, however, it reads, "I want THAT I become a doctor." Another way to say that, without using "che," would be:

                  Za doctor joredal ghwaram.

                  To answer Ashiq's question about the verb to be, I'm really not sure what the actual verb is, but the conjugation is as follows.

                  - (I) am = (za) yam
                  - (you) are = (ta) ye
                  - (you (formal)) are = (taso) yai
                  - (she) is = (hagha) da
                  - (he) is = (hagha) dey
                  - (we) are = (mung) yu
                  - (you all) are = (taso) yai
                  - (they) are = hagho dee

                  "To become," which does not mean the same thing as "to be," is kedal or shwal in Pashto. If you have time and your desire to learn Pashto persists, please refer to this link: Pashto Verb General, especially for verbs.

                  And, yes, Ashiq, you're right in your observation that Pashto verbs (generally) end in al. Examples: lidal (literally "seeing," which is a gerund, not a verb, but in Pashto, it means "to see."); kenastal (sitting down); pasedal (getting up); udakedal (sleeping); tolawal (collecting). And so on.
                  He wants to learn Kandahari Pashto, as he specified earlier. Which means most of your words aren't really valid here.

                  I will give you just a few

                  Sitting down = Ksheynastal
                  Getting up = walaraidal
                  We are = mozh yu

                  Let's not confuse the poor guy here. Kandahari Pashto is a lot different.
                  Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.

                  A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai

                  For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."


                  The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!

                  -Ferishta, 1560–1620

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Admin Khan View Post

                    Pashto can't be taught over night. In order to excel,
                    It requires the learner to strive, and to be focused. In your case Laila, it's hard for you to focus(which is why it's taking you so long). You are a Pre-med college student[Lots of Labs], you are a volunteer at a hospital, and I am sure you have a lot of other priorities. So when you prioritize, you easily pick College over Pashto, which is perfectly reasonable, after applying a cost-benefit analysis. Now if someone who knows Dari, and knows Urdu sits down and really focuses and pays attention to how Pashto works, and watches a few Pashto movies/dramas, it won't be long to realize how similar Pashto is to other languages. You can't have your mind preoccupied with many tasks, and then expect to learn Pashto. I know white Americans who learned Pashto, what did it take them? Consistency sprinkled with constant effort. Oh, and you must be focused. Laila, if you were to drop school, drop your job, and sit down and focus, I am extremely confident that you can pick up the language in several months. Now would you be an expert at it? Of course not. Even I am not an expert, but you would at least be able to converse in Pashto. In conclusion, it all comes down to ones personal effort and how much they have in their plate. Is Pashto an easy language? If you know Urdu, and Dari yes it is. It's not difficult at all, to at least apprehend the basic structure of Pashto. In short, if Pashto arouses Aashiqs curiosity, he can pick it up in months. If he focuses and actually pays attention to what he is doing, and constantly follows up on his lessons, I don't see any difficulties at all. Is Pashto difficult for someone who doesn't know Dari, Urdu and Arabic letters? I would say it's rather complicated. Aashiq on our hand, I assume, can read Arabic letters so all he has to learn is a few extra letters and he is already an avid Pashto reader.


                    Yeah you are right. Like i can understand Pashto.....if someone sits down with me, i can easily pick up the conversation....but not when it gets into deep and serious discussion, but i dont know how to answer back....which i know takes more time and effort. If anything, i do know many of the words, but when putting it in a sentence and trying to figure out okay which verb do i use, in what form, and how am i going to say it to this person.....does get really tricky.

                    But another thing is, being around people who speak Pashto. Like myself, i sit down with my father and learn. But that only happens sometimes. So to be able to learn in fluently, Ashiq will need the support of his family, to sit down, and have conversations in Pashto with him, or whoever it may be. That way he knows how to interact and how to pronounce the words correctly.

                    I do advice on anyone, dont bother with Rosetta Stone. I didnt found it as helpful as the learning resources we have here and in other websites.

                    Oh and Ashiq, sorry for flooding your thread.

                    Originally posted by Admin Khan View Post
                    Yes, Good job.
                    Thanks! =)

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                    • #55
                      listen bro i aint tryin to discourage you, but if you wanna learn the language go back home

                      ull never pick it up here 100% off online tutorials

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by KhudaiMakhluq
                        Laleya, I can teach you good Paktika Pashto.
                        Thank you for the offer....but its best if i get fluent in Jalabadi pakhto first. Then when i know it well, then sure why not

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Amir al Ghaznavi View Post
                          listen bro i aint tryin to discourage you, but if you wanna learn the language go back home

                          ull never pick it up here 100% off online tutorials
                          that biscally the way to learn it lol.

                          if you spend about 6 months back home then you will catch it and learn it.

                          My

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Amir al Ghaznavi View Post
                            listen bro i aint tryin to discourage you, but if you wanna learn the language go back home

                            ull never pick it up here 100% off online tutorials
                            yep that is true

                            My dad spend about 15 years in Kuwait, saudi etc and now he can speak Arabic propaly.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Master Khan View Post
                              yep that is true

                              My dad spend about 15 years in Kuwait, saudi etc and now he can speak Arabic propaly.
                              Kha? Za ham pa Kuwait ki payda swam.

                              My father was there in the late 70s, and we left in 90. Maybe our fathers may know each other? PM me details wrora

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Amir al Ghaznavi View Post
                                listen bro i aint tryin to discourage you, but if you wanna learn the language go back home

                                ull never pick it up here 100% off online tutorials

                                That is my plan. I just want to get some of the basic, and then pack my bags and go back to my homeland. This is the idea.

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