The myth of Punjabis Pashtuns enemity and blame game of Pashtuns Part I

[Son of Mountains]

@ Nadir Shah, Tor khan and BLS
punjabis are not my brother/sister
They r just human beings before me like all other nations are.
problem started when i joined internet pashtun world, n found all afghans spreading hate for pakistan n trying to prove it non-islamic country.

[BLS_1919v2.0]

@ Nadir Shah, Tor khan and BLS
punjabis are not my brother/sister
They r just human beings before me like all other nations are.
problem started when i joined internet pashtun world, n found all afghans spreading hate for pakistan n trying to prove it non-islamic country.

We never said they weren't humans. However you are just blaming people of Afghanistan for spreading hate. Actually they are ones half of the time defending Pakistan. It is the Pashtunkhwa Pashtuns who are taking a harsh stance towards Pakistan namely me, Maseed, nadir shah (who i assume is from south pashtunkhwa), etc.

[Nadir Shah]

@ Nadir Shah, Tor khan and BLS
punjabis are not my brother/sister
They r just human beings before me like all other nations are.
problem started when i joined internet pashtun world, n found all afghans spreading hate for pakistan n trying to prove it non-islamic country.

Malgariya, we are not trying to prove Pak non-islamic. There is no such thing as an 'Islamic' or 'non-Islamic' country, to tell you the truth. Pakistan's genesis and history prove that it is nothing Islamic about it. There is no mention of a Moslem state in South Asia in either the Koran or the Sahih ye Sitah. My Kalima is 'Lailaha .......Muhammad ur Rasullalah' not 'Lailaha .....Pakistan ul Watanina'. My religion never obligates me to be loyal to Pakistan.

[tor_khan]

Malgariya, what are 'these' ground realities that you speak of? Of what value to the Pashtun cause are they? How would their realization (supposing that we haven't yet) help our cause? I pray to Dear Lord that you have clarity regarding our cause.

The ground "realities" are based on the general presmise that Son Of Mountains holds that there are many Pashtoons loyal to Pakistan. As there are many Pashtoons who question the state, there are many who do not and happily support it.

Unlike, say, in Balochistan where there is near full support for a seperatist movement, the Pashtoons are distracted by other kinds of war - and little of it is really about political/social betterment for Pashtoons or independence.

Your common Pashtoon in Pakistan is perhaps no more pro-Afghanistan than your average Panjabee. That is not to saym however, that Pashtoons, armed or not, unlettered or intellectual are not percieved to be a threat.

[Nadir Shah]

The ground "realities" are based on the general presmise that Son Of Mountains holds that there are many Pashtoons loyal to Pakistan. As there are many Pashtoons who question the state, there are many who do not and happily support it.

I have already explained the reasons and causes for the supposed loyalty and 'love' of Pashtuns for Pakistan quite a few times on this forum.

Unlike, say, in Balochistan where there is near full support for a seperatist movement, the Pashtoons are distracted by other kinds of war - and little of it is really about political/social betterment for Pashtoons or independence.

Malgariya, this is because Balochistan has faced a single faceted war/force. Pashtuns, on hte other hand, have faced with currents and forces of widely varying interests and powers. Hence the difference.

Your common Pashtoon in Pakistan is perhaps no more pro-Afghanistan than your average Panjabee. That is not to saym however, that Pashtoons, armed or not, unlettered or intellectual are not percieved to be a threat.

Afghanistan has been a major target of the Pakistanni foreign policy since 1947. This fact has thus translated into the domestic policy regarding Pashtuns, resulting in anti-Afghanistan Pashtuns.