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  • #16
    Originally posted by StrategistMaseed View Post
    Dear Nokia Afridi

    Speak proper Pushto, I dont understand some of what you say.

    ANP is not a Pashtun Party, its ruled by Non Pashtuns and takes orders from Punjabistan.

    ANP supports bombing Pashtuns homes in Waziristan and Bacha Khan was a traitor, as he refused to fight a armed struggle and rejected mirza ali khans proposal to build a Pashtunistan.

    Red Shirts were useless and deceived by Hindus and Indians who themselves feared a strong united Pashtun nation.

    The whole useless ghandi ideology should be thrown into the trash bin, Due to this ANP and bacha khan, we are stuck with Pakistan,

    You can not win a war by sitting down on the floor.

    Kind Regards
    Dear Mehsud,
    Do you not think why Faqir of Ipi organzation lost in waziristan?
    You cannt win by violance.
    Bacha Khan movement is alive in one or another form due to his non-violance.
    Pashtuns did not go to Pakistan due to Bacha khan. There were other reasons, Hindus, Britains, and then Muslim league pushed bacha Khan for such a decision. He did his best and saved Pashtuns be the part of 1947 mass killings, although he his organization suffered much.
    Although it is acceptable, that pashtuns are used and being used today brutally for other people services including Punjab and ANP cannot find a way get rid of it.
    There is no good choice for pashtuns other than ANP in the present situation.
    If some other party will come out with secualr nationalist ideology, it will destroy ANP itself, but we dont have till now.
    ANP relized that without greensignal of Punjab they can do nothing, so good to be friends of Punjab, not to be enemy.

    I would like to hear your kind suggestions, how Pashtuns can get rid of the present situation, not blaming ANP. Alternatives?

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    • #17
      Originally posted by erlangner View Post
      I would like to hear your kind suggestions, how Pashtuns can get rid of the present situation, not blaming ANP. Alternatives?
      مړه سر به څۀ خوږوو......... محسود به تا له څۀ سجيشن درکړي دا هر څۀ خو د دوي دلاسه کېږي لګيا دي.
      کۀ دوي د خپل ماشوم د ګوتو نه قلم نۀ اخستو او ټوپک ئې ورله نۀ ورکولو نو اوس به زمونږ د پښتنو دا حال نۀ وۀ.او اوس اے اېن پي او باچا خان د دې ذمه وار شو. هغۀ خو خپل ټول عمر دا کوشش کړے وۀ چې جټ پښتانۀ تعليم طرفته راوبلي نن هغۀ ته غدار وائي.......shame maseed

      Bacha khan used non-violence as the most effective weapon ...through violence nothing can be acheived...look at Subhash Chandarboss, Faqeer Api, Mangal Pandey etc...they were just crushed by the british and were declared as terrorist...
      Na soz sho na saaz sho,
      Bas hasy jwand tamam sho

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Jana View Post
        LOLZ you are even rejecting ANP stalwarts because they are Pakistanis.

        Anyway you are happy to follow Americans as long as money is given to you instead of the neighbours so i see no difference.

        Its just the game of interests and above all where were you all intelectual, liberal, educated Pashtuns when millions of our Afghan Pashtun brothers have to migrate.

        The so-called liberal, intellectual pashtuns left then in the lurch by fleeing to US, Germany, Australia and so on because they were too liberal to follow modest culture and customs by migrating from Kabul to a conservative city like Peshawar.
        hahahahahha wait as I laugh this one out. I believe in english they say "pot calling the kettle black". Jana ISI's 1/3rd budget is paid for by CIA. Pakistan is the second largest recipient of aid followed only by their other step-son Israel. Please stop this hypocrisy. BTW in the suffering of Pashtuns lar au bar, pakistan is as guilty as the others. Lmar pa dwao gutho na patteegee.
        http://i29.tinypic.com/2a6j8jm.gif

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        • #19
          Yousafzai, I don't disagree with anything you've said above but I have a question. Is nonviolence a strategy that we can follow forever? First, our foe were the British, a nation that despite all its actions, believed in the sanctity of laws. Now we are opposed by vicious killers who are more than happy to see us turn the other cheek. I love Bachaa Khan but do you think nonviolence is feasible even today?
          "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be".

          "Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives".

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Levanaye Zalmaye View Post
            Yousafzai, I don't disagree with anything you've said above but I have a question. Is nonviolence a strategy that we can follow forever? First, our foe were the British, a nation that despite all its actions, believed in the sanctity of laws. Now we are opposed by vicious killers who are more than happy to see us turn the other cheek. I love Bachaa Khan but do you think nonviolence is feasible even today?
            No, not at all....you are right we should not follow the non-violence strategy under these circumstances....especially in Karachi where the brutal Muhajirs are targeting the poor pukhtuns...
            but it is not just to criticise the Great Bacha khan and his philosophy.....
            Maseed wror blames ANP as the killers of pukhtuns...i would just request him to please come forward rather than staying abroad, make your own political party, and struggle for pukhtun rights....as respected erlangner has said that we have no alternate option for us other than ANP...if you people form another party with a nationalist ideology we will support if it would be better than present ANP...

            Regards..
            Yousafzai
            Na soz sho na saaz sho,
            Bas hasy jwand tamam sho

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Yousafzai Pakhtun View Post
              مړه سر به څۀ خوږوو......... محسود به تا له څۀ سجيشن درکړي دا هر څۀ خو د دوي دلاسه کېږي لګيا دي.
              کۀ دوي د خپل ماشوم د ګوتو نه قلم نۀ اخستو او ټوپک ئې ورله نۀ ورکولو نو اوس به زمونږ د پښتنو دا حال نۀ وۀ.او اوس اے اېن پي او باچا خان د دې ذمه وار شو. هغۀ خو خپل ټول عمر دا کوشش کړے وۀ چې جټ پښتانۀ تعليم طرفته راوبلي نن هغۀ ته غدار وائي.......shame maseed

              Bacha khan used non-violence as the most effective weapon ...through violence nothing can be acheived...look at Subhash Chandarboss, Faqeer Api, Mangal Pandey etc...they were just crushed by the british and were declared as terrorist...

              I need really kind opinion of Maseed wror. Did Maseed punished Senator Gulab Khan who accepted and invited Mr Jinnah to South Waziristan and offered body gurad from Mehsud tribe. Who fought against Mirza Faqri Ipi. I really appreciate the sincerity of Faqir ipi, haji sahib turangzai and all others who did not spare their lives, but my brother mahsud, strategy, strategy and strategy.

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