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  • Trusting People Online: Some Advice

    I would like to offer some advice for how to avoid talking to (new) people online in order to protect yourself and your privacy, especially if you're a female. And I'm doing this upon a good friend's request, so I hope I don't disappoint her.

    The obvious: Don't put your pictures online. I know it's tempting, since practically EVERYONE has their pictures on Facebook and other social networks, but because we're easterners and Pukhtuns, it's bound to hurt us in the long run whereas it's not as likely to hurt the non-Pukhtuns/non-easterners in the long run. I've heard many stories and seen some instances myself of females' pictures being stolen and posted on Youtube videos. Many of us commonly see Youtube videos with girls' pictures in them, but I wonder if any of us actually wonder if those girls' consent/permission was sought before the pictures were displayed like that.

    Another obvious: Don't easily trust people when they reveal their gender to you. People might tell you and even talk like they're one gender (e.g., female) but are in actuality another gender (male). I know of instances where this has happened as well. Do NOT fool yourself into thinking that just because you've known someone for a year, he/she really is what he/she has told you. If you're a smart and wise person who doesn't discuss her/his personal life with random people, then you're fine and may not have to worry as much; but if you're a fool like many of us are, then you've got some lessons to learn, and you don't wanna learn them the hard way.

    When I said this to an online female friend recently, she said to me, "But how do I know YOU are a female?" Good question, and I'm happy she asked. But here's how you might be able to determine whether someone's talking to you because she/he has some (evil) intentions or just because.

    1. Interrogation. If someone you just met is asking you too many questions, PAUSE before answering. Ask yourself why you're being asked so many questions all of a sudden by someone you just met. Sure, the normal "hi, how are you? How many siblings you have? Where are you from?" etc. are fine, but even then, you don't need to tell someone where you live, what your parents do, where you go to school, etc.

    2. Request for personal information. If someone asks for your phone number, your home address (rarely happens, I think, but still), your photos, etc. during your first few conversations, don't share. I understand it's tempting and all, but fight the urge. The world isn't gonna end if you wait a while and feel more comfortable.

    (Some more hints I'll share later, ka khairee.)

    Major advice:
    Don't be afraid of telling someone you don't feel comfortable answering a certain question. In fact, I suggest you test a person by saying this to one of his/her questions to get an idea of what the response will be like. If the person starts laughing or says, "Oh come on! You don't trust me?" That's a mighty sign right there that this person isn't to be trusted. If he/she was worth your trust, the response would have been different -- something more like, "All right. We can talk about this when you're comfortable then (if ever)" or "Oh, sorry. Never mind."

    So, again, if you don't feel comfortable answering a question, watch how the person reacts. If there's any pressure involved, force the person out of your life right away to prevent yourself from being hurt later on. Someone who's truly worth befriending will never pressure you to answer their questions or share something with them that you don't want them to see, at least yet.

    If you're afraid of the person's reaction or fear that if you say no to them for something, they'll leave you, that means you have some self-confidence to gain. Don't be afraid of saying no, especially in such important moments. Be strong, and stand up for yourself. You deserve to be respected, and no one has any right to put you in an uncomfortable situation that might later cause you to so much unrest that you won't be able to sleep.

    I must add that sometimes when the other person shows us their picture, we feel like we can trust them by showing our own (or if they share some personal information, we feel comforted and think we can trust them with our own as well). WRONG! Do NOT do this! You don't know if they're telling you the truth; you don't know if they showed you their own picture. Again, be patient and wait a long while before sharing anything. Judge them by how they interact you.

    Also, many a times, our instincts are correct, and our conscience is there to guide us. So when you have this bad gut feeling about someone, that's a special sign that perhaps you shouldn't trust this person. What will happen if you don't trust this person until you feel more confident and are sure much later that you can trust her/him? Nothing. So be patient.

    I'll add more later. I'm in a rush right now but I wanted this said desperately.

    May we all be respected and appreciated everywhere we are! Aameen.

  • #2
    Yea its true u shouldn't trust people online. Its a very a place of deception because you never know who is the person and he has nothing to lose online as compared to real life...so watch out! But u can trust me...lol
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    • #3
      Der manana, very good read..Will be useful to all of us

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      • #4
        Qratai .. good one !! pakhpala di amal shta kana!!! :P :P

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        • #5
          Qrratugai.. thanks fo sharing....

          but the privacy options dont work for facebook and orkut??????????

          arent these safe????

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          • #6
            now if I had some translations I might actually learn a few words....

            Sorry-

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            • #7
              Glad you all find it useful, guys!

              @ Rabia: Translation for what?

              @ Samima: That's very sweet of you to say! I'm honored to hear that, guley!

              @ Nido: LOL. You funny thing!

              Originally posted by spogmai shaglay View Post
              Qrratugai.. thanks fo sharing....

              but the privacy options dont work for facebook and orkut??????????

              arent these safe????
              I can't speak on Orkut since I am not on there, but Facebook is not safe at ALL. They keep making it as public as possible :S So right now, you basically have no privacy on there! EVERYONE gets to see your profile picture, for example, and you have no way of making it private so that only friends or contacts can see it. Plus, Facebook's default settings are now such that your friends' friends (or the contacts of the people on your list) have full access to not only your profile but profile-pictures Album; you have to go set the settings yourself to where only your contacts or whoever you want can see it.

              So I suggest you all not use Facebook and other such social networks for reasons other than networking. Virtually everyone's on Facebook, including many of our favorite authors, scholars, etc., and so it's a fabulous way to let them know that you exist, lol, but other than that, really, I wouldn't advise Facebook at all.

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              • #8
                Very nice, is this of Ghani Khan, I know this in that Afghan lady (I dont know her name) but I am not sure if these verses are of Ghani Khan.

                Daa Ghani Kho yao Ghani dey ta paida shwe la kum khwa,
                Lewaney ka falsafi dey, na pohegama pa da

                Sta sifat kawaley na sham, na che shi la maa khata
                Qudrat poh dey che qudrat dey, sta da har taki mana

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                • #9
                  pakhpala di amal shta kana what does it mean?

                  I am not suggesting that everyone always translate for me, because I am the outsider. But I do need to learn at least a little basic Pashto. My work would be so much better if I could speak at least a little. I bought the CDs from Rosetta Stone but still without a teacher it is really difficult.

                  When I was in Pakistan, I learned mostly nouns, and that mostly from the children, the adults either lacked the skills of teaching Pashto as a foreign language or perhaps they didn't have the patience, instead of teaching me words they always rattled off a long sentence without any explanations. I have taught ESL myself, so I know a little about how I best learn. I am also bilingual, so not totally unaware-my other language is German. I need a Pashto foundation to build upon, but even that I lack.

                  Any suggestions?

                  Wordless Rabia

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                  • #10
                    rabia it means do you act upon this yourself....pakpala (yourself) amal (act) shta (have)

                    How come you wanna learn pashto? are you married to a pashtun?
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                    • #11
                      I feel responsible for a group of women in Pakistan, they are dear to my heart. Yet I must always use a translator when I speak to them. I think this is disrespectful on my part. I give presentations here in America to promote understanding for the Pakistani culture, and to raise funds for those who are most in need in rural Pakistan. I feel this is the work that Allah has called me to do.

                      If I could sit though and have a heart to heart talk with these women so dear to me, that would be so beautiful, but alas, about all I can say is "how are you" and answer questions like whether I am happy or not, and some nouns from day to day life.

                      My favorite word is Uga. Garlic

                      I am so homesick for Pakistan, Inshallah I will be able to return next year.....

                      Rabia

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                      • #12
                        which part of Pakistan do u return to?
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Aseer Jaan
                          I think many of us should be smart enough to know that you cant ever trust someone online.
                          Actually, no. Everyone trusts at least one person they meet online. You would agree that there are at least a couple of people here on PF, for instance, who seem sincere and trustworthy enough for others to trust, and I'm more than sure that a lot of us trust them. I'm certain you wouldn't say something like, "No, I can't trust ANYONE on PF if I don't know them in person." Know what I mean? Because we judge online forum members by their thinking, their views, and the way they represent and carry themselves to decide what kind of people they are. No?

                          It's difficult determining whom you can/should trust or not, but that's why we need to be cautious about who we're talking to online and how they approach us. So if they're asking us too many questions about ourselves or they're interested in our personal life and we don't wanna discuss it with them or anyone else, then that should be a sign for us not to trust them.

                          Plus, we don't wanna make anyone feel stupid or dumb for trusting someone online. To be on the safest side, we should not do it, you're right; but your post sounds more negative than you perhaps intended for it to be.

                          I'm not negating what I said in the first post: I still stand by everything I said there, but just a side note to all of us, everyone makes mistakes. But just remember that you can never, EVER be too careful online. Walk the extra miles to take good care of yourself and ensure that you and your privacy are respected.

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                          • #14
                            ^So true Que. People may seem like the best of characters on forums but when you take it to a more personal level (fb, msn, yahoo) things may change...

                            Your post was very good and should be kept as a constant reminder.
                            I desire that which is Just - House of Dukemina.

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                            • #15
                              the Don't Be Stupid rule applies every where. there is no need for every one to start acting paranoid all of a sudden.

                              I am no bird, and no nest ensnares me.

                              non commercial would cost less if he was in charge himself which he plans on doing. right now it's n herat but soon it will be in qanadahar.

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