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    U.S. sorry for Guatemala syphilis experiment

    Last Updated: Friday, October 1, 2010 | 2:13 PM ET

    CBC News

    The U.S. government has apologized for experiments carried out 40 years ago in which government researchers used prostitutes to deliberately infect prison inmates in Guatemala with syphilis.

    U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius issued a joint statement Friday on the 1946 to 1948 study that they called unethical.

    "Although these events occurred more than 64 years ago, we are outraged that such reprehensible research could have occurred under the guise of public health. We deeply regret that it happened, and we apologize to all the individuals who were affected by such abhorrent research practices."

    Medical historian Susan Reverby of Wellesley College in Massachusetts uncovered the experiment. It apparently was conducted to test the effectiveness of penicillin, which was relatively new then, in treating sexually transmitted diseases.

    "In addition to the penitentiary, the studies took place in an insane asylum and an army barracks," Reverby said in a release.

    "In total, 696 men and women were exposed to the disease and then offered penicillin. The studies went on until 1948 and the records suggest that despite intentions not everyone was probably cured."

    The researchers induced the disease by allowing inmates in the central penitentiary to have sex with infected prostitutes [which was legal in Guatemala], or gave the disease to the prisoners by inoculating their arms, faces or penises with a solution of the bacteria that causes syphilis.

    Current regulations for U.S.-funded human medical research prohibit these kinds of "appalling violations," the government statement said.


    Read more: CBC News - Health - U.S. sorry for Guatemala syphilis experiment

  • #2
    So digusting, I read some time ago, how during the prohibition that the U.S. government did something similar causing alcohol poisoning. I do not drink, but still this manipulation is evil.

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    • #3
      This is so immoral. Using us as if we were animals and rats. And they say they are the land of freedom. Freedom my foot.

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      • #4


        Wow...so inhumane. I have no other words.

        But i do have to agree with Que, its not surprising at all.

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        • #5
          There are many evil things they have done. The same doctor did these experiments on african americans inside america. The african americans had syphilis, then they would just watch and observe how the disease progresses in humans and how much suffering it causes while the whole time they had the medication to treat those people but never used it.

          They did nuclear radiation tests on their own soldiers in the 50's.

          They sprayed agent orange chemical in the forests of vietnam while their own soldiers where in the forest, knowing full well that it will have an effect on their own soldiers. Many of those soldiers died suffering from the affects from that chemicle, not to mention the vietnamese civilians living in the forest.

          In gantonaomo prison, they tested how much a human can take different kind of punishment before breaking down. There was one test they said that the average person broke down in 10 sec. and there was one who prisoner lasted 2 1/2 min, the doctors were shocked and couldnt beleive it.

          These things were done all by educated doctors and adminstrators, and you say education fixes everything. education doesnt fix evil

          submission to Allah is what fixes everything.
          these are the things that have come to public light by luck. There are many things that are classified that nobody will never know.

          These are things that the american people shouldnt be blamed for but it is the secular government, more reason that secular governments dont work when you see the evil that is done by them.
          Last edited by khushal; 10-04-2010, 04:20 AM.

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          • #6
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            Last edited by Levanaye Zalmaye; 12-15-2011, 08:25 PM.
            "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be".

            "Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives".

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Levanaye Zalmaye View Post
              Submission to Allah also makes a person blow himself up in the middle of a crowd, let's not forget that, khushal. Therefore, that's hardly a solution.

              As for all the poor people who were experimented on, it's their fault. You don't develop your country, you don't work hard, you don't sacrifice, you don't defend yourself, you don't arm yourself with knowledge and you don't unite as a nation, what do you think is gonna happen? The wolves are gonna come and get you. Then you can't cry like a baby. You're weak, you get eaten. That's just how it is. Man up, Guatemalans. Why can't anyone do that with Americans? Because if you try, they'll bomb you back to the 7th century and to ensure that you stay there, they'll covertly send clerics to rule over you.

              Those are my two cents. I'm sick of this Third World crying and colonial hangover mode. It's a jungle out there, stop acting like goats and become crouching tigers and hidden dragons, be Fearless, we should be Warlords, we must destroy our enemies with the Kiss of the Dragon, Tai ji: Zhang San Feng, The Legend II, Once Upon a Time in China, Lethal Weapon 4, Hero, Red Cliff (part 1 and 2), etc...
              Levenya,

              I always like reading your posts because they are very articulate and entertaining the way you write them. But....
              When a person blows himself up, they are usually depressed or they are passionate about taking revenge. The Tamil hindus in sri lanka, the kamakozi pilots of japan, the fighters comanded by castro of cuba, The native americans charging with nothing but a stick in their hands against soldiers with guns, knowing death was certain, did not know anything about submission to allah. They were all passionate about taking revenge.

              You are correct about the wolves being out there. But then you are sounding like Hitler. That we should get rid of the handicapped, the elderly because they are regarded as liability instead of assets. That they are in the way of progress and happiness for the rest of us who are better than them. What happend to compassion and protecting the weak from those wolves. Submission to Allah gets you closer to having that passion, the right kind of passion.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Jasmine
                I still any believe it.
                Jasminei,
                what does that mean, I am confused

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by khushal View Post
                  Levenya,

                  I always like reading your posts because they are very articulate and entertaining the way you write them. But....
                  When a person blows himself up, they are usually depressed or they are passionate about taking revenge. The Tamil hindus in sri lanka, the kamakozi pilots of japan, the fighters comanded by castro of cuba, The native americans charging with nothing but a stick in their hands against soldiers with guns, knowing death was certain, did not know anything about submission to allah. They were all passionate about taking revenge.

                  You are correct about the wolves being out there. But then you are sounding like Hitler. That we should get rid of the handicapped, the elderly because they are regarded as liability instead of assets. That they are in the way of progress and happiness for the rest of us who are better than them. What happend to compassion and protecting the weak from those wolves. Submission to Allah gets you closer to having that passion, the right kind of passion.
                  Well said Khushal. I want to see Levanayes response now.

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