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    15 September 2012 Last updated at 03:15 ET Share this page



    Van Gogh's Flowers In A Blue Vase damage seen in X-rays

    By Jason Palmer Science and technology reporter, BBC News Microscopic samples of the work were carefully extracted in two places
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    Researchers have spotted a never-before-seen chemical effect in Vincent Van Gogh's Flowers In A Blue Vase that is dulling the work's vibrant yellows.
    It seems a layer of varnish added later to protect the work is in fact turning the yellow to a greyish-orange colour.
    High-intensity X-ray studies described in Analytical Chemistry found compounds called oxalates were responsible.
    But atoms from the original paint were also found in the varnish, which may therefore be left in place.
    It is not the first time that the bright yellows that Van Gogh preferred have been examined with X-rays.
    In 2011, an article in the same journal from a team led by the University of Antwerp's Koen Janssens reported that a pigment Van Gogh favoured called chrome yellow degraded when other, chromium-containing pigments were present.
    The new work was begun during a conservation treatment in 2009, when conservators found that the yellows in Flowers In A Blue Vase - this time from a pigment called cadmium yellow - had turned greyish and cracked.
    Normally, cadmium yellow grows paler and less vibrant as it ages.
    So the team again took tiny samples of the work to some of Europe's largest sources of X-rays: the ESRF in France and Desy in Germany. Both use vast particle accelerators to speed up electrons, which spray out X-rays as they pass around the accelerators.
    The purpose was to determine not only what was in the samples in terms of atoms and molecules, but also the precise structures in the interface layer between the original paint and the varnish.
    That is where the team was shocked to find a compound called cadmium oxalate as the cause of the grey-orange pallor.
    The cadmium oxalate was a surprise find in the layer between paint and varnish
    "The contact layer between the varnish and the paint, where the cadmium oxalate is found, is micrometer thin," Dr Janssens told BBC News.
    "If we had not used methods that allow us to interrogate this very thin layer, we would never have noticed that there were oxalates there."
    Oxalates are commonly found in much older works, and in association with different pigments. This is the first time that cadmium has been seen to form oxalates within the varnish - a protective measure that was added much later.
    "Van Gogh didn't like to varnish his paintings - he liked them, let's say, rough," Dr Janssens said.
    "It was only after he died that these paintings found their way into the art market and into private and public collections and individual conservators would say 'we're going to varnish it because we do that with all our paintings'."
    The samples extracted from the work and placed in the X-ray beams were almost too small to see
    That some of the Van Gogh's paint has been drawn into the varnish creates a troubling problem for conservators, who of course want to prevent any further degradation but are duty-bound not to remove any original material.
    The particular chemical reaction may be putting the yellows of other works at risk by Van Gogh and others, but it does not happen with every type of varnish.
    For now, perhaps the world's best collection of Van Gogh's work - at the Van Gogh Museum in the Netherlands - seems safe.
    "I don't anticipate it will be a wide-scale problem for our particular collection, given its conservation history," said Ella Hendriks, the museum's head of conservation.
    "But of course it's always good to be aware of the possibility that you could come across this in other paintings," she told BBC News.
    "This type of information for conservators is very valuable because it helps us understand the condition of the paintings and make the right choices about how we can best conserve them."



  • #2
    great paintings

    High achievement always takes place in the framework of high expectation.

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    • #3
      i've been to the van gogh gallery in amsterdam. you should go and check it out, 2010. it is fantastic.

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      • #4
        I have been to many galleries,as the one in strasbourgh to louvre (you should come to visit louvre (paris) it amazing what you will see there)

        I would like to go to amsterdam,i wasn't there when i was in the Netherlands.
        High achievement always takes place in the framework of high expectation.

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        • #5
          دا چه مړ شو بیا ورته د خلکو پام شو
          جوند یی په ډیر غریبی کښی تیره کړی

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Afghanistan2010 View Post
            I have been to many galleries,as the one in strasbourgh to louvre (you should come to visit louvre (paris) it amazing what you will see there)
            when i was in paris, i did pastel portrait sketches at montmatre, on the street, with all the french artists. i did really well and made money to go to spain. i learned to use the pastels there. previously i had been doing portraits only in paint and pencil.
            i didn't go to the louvre though but i love old style oil paintings, with those dark backgrounds. very intense.

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            • #7
              Louvre is immense,uncountable great paintings are there.

              Have you seen all the artistis going up to montmatre....so you sold your artwork ?
              High achievement always takes place in the framework of high expectation.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by بریدمل View Post
                دا چه مړ شو بیا ورته د خلکو پام شو
                جوند یی په ډیر غریبی کښی تیره کړی
                Ao, har wakht data khapala ghareebee makhta daredalla ow de agho ye nakal raang kawallo....
                High achievement always takes place in the framework of high expectation.

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                • #9
                  yes, i was working sometimes till 2am with people lined up waiting. i used to do the portraits in about 10 minutes when i had a lot of work and got into the flow. normally, they would take about 15/20 mins if business was slow. i loved being at montmatre, knowing the history of the art scene there.
                  that painting you uploaded of the white blossoms on blue is the gentlest looking painting i have seen of van goghs. it is lovely.

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                  • #10
                    How beautiful is the view over the city ?...amazing
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                    High achievement always takes place in the framework of high expectation.

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                    • #11
                      i don't find that beautiful. city scenes are not beautiful to my eyes.
                      i do like some old buildings though. ones with decorative facades, from when people took more time to create those structures.

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                      • #12
                        to me again and again the view is overwhelming...but yet i have say one thing it is messed this city,too many people,you are a stranger to everyone not like smaller cities,towns,villages.
                        High achievement always takes place in the framework of high expectation.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Afghanistan2010 View Post
                          Ao, har wakht data khapala ghareebee makhta daredalla ow de agho ye nakal raang kawallo....
                          دا پیژنی؟

                          د دی عکسونه هم ښه دي.
                          نوم یی ماوریتز کورنیلیس اسښر دی.

                          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M._C._Escher


                          ماوریتز کورنیلیس اسښر



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                          • #14
                            eschers work is intellectual whereas van goghs work is passion and emotional. i love both.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by بریدمل View Post
                              دا چه مړ شو بیا ورته د خلکو پام شو
                              جوند یی په ډیر غریبی کښی تیره کړی
                              Wus donia dasai soh wai..de,

                              che cha mrra shi bia ba pam..kawi.
                              I believe the sun should never set upon an argument.
                              I believe forgiveness is the key to your unhappiness.

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