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    When Brian Dugan pleaded guilty to the brutal rape and murder of a seven-year-old girl, Jeanine Nicarico, he seemed to be the very sketch of a brutal serial killer.

    She had been murdered in 1983, though Dugan only pleaded guilty in 2009. By then, he had also been convicted of rape several times over, and the murder of two others - another seven-year-old girl and a 27-year-old nurse whom he ran off the road before raping and killing her.

    If the death sentence had not been withdrawn in Illinois, Dugan would have been executed.

    Yet strikingly, he showed no remorse for any of his murders or crimes. Scientists now believe this lack of empathy may in fact be linked to the reason he committed these acts.

    Neuroscientist Dr Kent Kiehl of the University of New Mexico scanned Dugan's brain, as part of a unique project to understand how anti-social behaviour is related to brain structure and function.

    "He struggles to try and understand why people even care about what he did," says Kiehl, describing his time interviewing Dugan. "Clinically, it is fascinating."
    Psychopathy
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    I tend to see psychopaths as someone suffering from a disorder, so I wouldn't use the word evil to describe them”
    End Quote Dr Kent Kiehl Neuroscientist, University of New Mexico
    Dr Kiehl is seen as a pioneer in a cutting-edge area of behavioural neuroscience: the attempt to understand psychopaths' brain functions and use this to develop treatments for their condition.

    It is controversial because for thousands of years, men like Dugan have been labelled not as ill, but as evil.

    In literature and cinema, the term "psychopath" is not used for a diagnosis for which we might have sympathy, but rather as something we might fear.

    Dr Kiehl has a different view: "I tend to see psychopaths as someone suffering from a disorder, so I wouldn't use the word evil to describe them."

    So what exactly is a psychopath?

    "Clinically, we define it as someone who scores high on traits such as lack of empathy, guilt and remorse," says Dr Kiehl.

    "They are very impulsive: they tend not to plan or think before acting. They tend to get themselves in trouble by a very early age."

    We have long known that many people in prisons display symptoms of psychopathy, but until now we have had little insight into their condition.

    Brain scans
    To address that using neuroscience, Dr Kiehl's lab has built a unique mobile brain scanner. It is equipped with the latest imaging technology but fitted into a truck he can drive into high-security prison facilities.

    He used this to perform two types of analysis on Dugan's brain: looking at its density and its function.

    "Brian's brain has very low levels of density in a system we call the para-limbic system," he explains.

    The para-limbic system is a "behaviour circuit" of the brain, including brain regions known as the amygdala and pre-frontal cortex.

    Scientists have long known that these areas are associated with the processing of emotions.

    Over the past century or so, people with brain damage to these areas have been studied because their behaviour suddenly changed and became anti-social.

    "Those systems, we think, didn't develop normally in Brian," says Dr Kiehl. Psychopathy seems to involve a lack of development in these regions - which may be genetically determined.
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    A season of programmes about the brain for Radio 4Dr Kiehl also monitored Brian Dugan's brain's reaction to a number of distressing images, such as the faces of people suffering, which were displayed in front of him while he was in the scanner. By scanning his brain in real time, the aim was to test his brain's function.

    The scans showed there was relatively low activity in Dugan's para-limbic system during processing of emotion.

    "Brian would come out of the scanner during those studies and he said, wow, I had problems trying to process what you wanted me to do,"
    Dr Kiehl recounts. "He made more mistakes than others would."

    According to Dr Kiehl, it is part of a pattern of brain activity which proves that psychopaths simply lack an emotional ability, in much the same way others lack intellectual ability.

    He has found similar results in large numbers of subjects, in prisons across the US.

    This means Dugan simply has no concept of the harm he has caused.

    "Talking about his crimes, it's like asking him what he had for breakfast," says Dr Kiehl.

    He also admits that in a sense, it is not surprising that the brain of somebody so different and anti-social also looks different from other brains. "But it's only now that we can look at how dramatically different their brains are that people are starting to take notice," he says.
    "It has a very powerful influence on the legal system," he adds.

    Neuro-law
    So what should the legal system do with this knowledge?

    Research like Dr Kiehl's has fuelled the debate over how much the legal system should change to accommodate what we now know about how bad behaviour is "hard-wired."

    This view of criminal law is often referred to as "neuro-law".

    It is a controversial vision of a future in which a moral judgement of criminal behaviour is replaced by a view that some criminals have diseased brains that need to be treated.

    But Dr Kiehl does not see his work resulting in any change to the prosecution of violent psychopaths like Brian Dugan. Instead, he argues that understanding psychopathy may lead us to different types of sentencing - in particular an end to the death sentence for psychopaths.

    "My hope is that the neuroscience helps the legal system to understand that these individuals have a disorder and this disorder is treatable," he says.

    Such treatment should not begin after someone has committed a terrible act, he says. Instead, he is working with other scientists to try and design interventions for children who display the same symptoms, before those symptoms escalate.
    Brian Dugan showed no remorse for the crimes he committed, including rape and three murders

    Treating children
    He thinks Dugan's life story shows key moments when interventions could have been made. "Brian suffered at a very early age," says Dr Kiehl. "He did classic things: he set fires, he hurt animals, he injured his brothers and sisters."

    Although Dugan was seen by specialist child services, they lacked an understanding of his condition. In fact, children who have symptoms linked to psychopathy often respond poorly to the kinds of techniques used with other badly behaved children.

    Because they lack emotional capability, when teachers attempt to get them to feel remorse it may make them confused and more likely to hurt others.

    The hope now is to develop a specific diagnosis for these children - callous and unemotional disorder - and to develop programmes and treatments specifically geared to their condition. In essence, these children have to be painstakingly taught reactions which the rest of us have automatically.

    Dr Kiehl's work in high security prisons is inspiring other labs, in the US and UK, who are working directly with children. "You could prevent those individuals like Brian from ever developing and escalating into the individual that he is today," he says.

    Source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-15386740
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  • #2
    I hate how they always try to blame the psychopath for everything.
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    • #3
      aawww, poor widdle psychopaths. group hugs

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      • #4
        The scientists always think they know what others can do, they are the psycopaths.
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        • #5
          some scientists are. the mr reason types. they lose touch with the world because they are too much in class, in technology, in the lab and in the brain. they only know ABOUT things.

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          • #6
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            2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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            • #7
              Superficial charm and intelligence
              No delusions
              No psychoneurotic behavior
              Unreliable
              Pathological lying
              No remorse
              Insufficient motivated antisocial behavior
              Poor judgment and doesn’t learn from experience
              Cannot love
              Poor in primary experience in feelings and emotions
              Loss of insight
              Not responsive in over all interpersonal reactions
              Obnoxious behavior when drunk and, at times, when sober
              Suicide threats rarely attempted
              Sex lives impersonal
              Fails to follow a plan of life


              Read more at Suite101: What are Sociopathy and Cleckley's List?: Now Termed Antisocial Personality Disorder, Once Was Moral Insanity | Suite101.com http://suite101.com/article/what-are...#ixzz215nexarN


              Note that not all psychopaths display all these symptoms.

              Loss of insight and Poor judgement do not apply to me.
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              • #8
                an easy cure for you would be to simply get a life. you need to be disciplined and enrolled in a school somewhere. excessive amount of boredom can force anyone in to believing they are a psychopath.

                I am no bird, and no nest ensnares me.

                non commercial would cost less if he was in charge himself which he plans on doing. right now it's n herat but soon it will be in qanadahar.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by DaZahroJaam. View Post
                  an easy cure for you would be to simply get a life. you need to be disciplined and enrolled in a school somewhere. excessive amount of boredom can force anyone in to believing they are a psychopath.
                  I have many lives.

                  I got thrown out of 3 schools and then lost interest.

                  I am not bored at all, my diagnosis has been confirmed by the most qualified pychiatrists.
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                  • #10
                    and that is something that you take pride in. remember how you mentioned that your father was the biggest beghairat out there of something the other day?? yeah, that.
                    i am going to ignore you now. if i don't find my ipod, i might just turn in to a mini psychopath myself.

                    I am no bird, and no nest ensnares me.

                    non commercial would cost less if he was in charge himself which he plans on doing. right now it's n herat but soon it will be in qanadahar.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by DaZahroJaam. View Post
                      and that is something that you take pride in. remember how you mentioned that your father was the biggest beghairat out there of something the other day?? yeah, that.
                      i am going to ignore you now. if i don't find my ipod, i might just turn in to a mini psychopath myself.
                      Yes.

                      Yes.

                      You say that now, but..

                      You cannot be initiated at your age. Either you are born as one or external factors like socialization or bad parenting turn you into one at an early age, though in the latter case, its very rare.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by faye View Post
                        some scientists are. the mr reason types. they lose touch with the world because they are too much in class, in technology, in the lab and in the brain. they only know ABOUT things.
                        Whereas we know OF them.
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                        • #13
                          I didn't read the article, too creepy.

                          But REAL sociopaths, not just the vile violent type,
                          are abounding in Western countries in this era.

                          I have been researching this, having met one or two.

                          One common factor is that they ALL LIE,
                          and pathologically so.

                          Beyond that, they can differ a little. But show many of the
                          same qualities.

                          If anyone is interested in learning more, look at a few online sites.

                          Here is one, a rather tame one, but involving a guy who is
                          "famous" in the so-called "truth movement", Jeff Rense.

                          He had 9 wives and was not only a narcissist but likely a sociopaqth.

                          Sociopaths bulldoze right through their target's life and
                          seem to enjoy it immensely. They ruin the target, either financinally
                          or emotionally - usually both.

                          If any women members - or anyone - is interested, read through this case study,
                          told in narrative form, in easy to comprehend segments :

                          melindajanekellogg.com

                          One can learn a lot.

                          Melinda Kellogg explains the whole story of having her life devastated by
                          this Rense character. He sounded creepy to me ; I never
                          was interested in his website.

                          Sure enough ! He is a dark soul

                          If anyone does read her blog, please make sympathetic comments
                          if you possibly could.
                          Because this poor woman is very discouraged and probably feels no hope.

                          Sometimes just a word or two from a kind commentator, or several - even better -
                          can
                          make all the difference for someone trying to recover
                          from a sociopath's [or narcissist's - there are tons of those too, due to
                          lack of belief in God in Western civilization today ] cruel and barbaric treatment.

                          I have another suggestion of a website to mention too which I would
                          post after this.

                          it's important these days for EVERYONE living in a Western country
                          to be aware that these creeps lurk around every third corner !

                          There are millions, literally, roaming.

                          It's a good reason to NOT "date" ANYONE - too !

                          I am SURE that Sociopaths are simply cases of a variety of
                          HEAVY HEAVY DEMON INFESTATION.

                          It's nothing in the brain.

                          No one in the West can think of any other explanation but a scientific
                          one.

                          When in fact these are SPIRITUAL Maladies, not organic brain dysfunctions.
                          The brain of a sociopath is considered to be different, with less emotive ability.

                          But where does THAT come from?
                          The soul, which is meted out what it deserves.
                          Last edited by Catya Sher; 07-19-2012, 06:23 PM.

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                          • #14
                            Yes, Catya I agree that this condition is more prevalent in the West, but then again, who knows? No such research has been conducted in the East.

                            Studies show that various other cultures like the Inuits for example, have a term to describe this illness and said description fits the Western criteria for the diagnosis.

                            Dr. Robert Hare is a leading personality in this field.
                            He has written many books and published countless papers on the subject, he even created what is now known as Hare's Checklist, which describes the symptoms of psycopath/sociopathy.

                            Interesting what you said about it being a spiritual maladie, afterall the psyche is the soul.
                            Last edited by Hakim Khan Urgonai; 07-19-2012, 06:39 PM.
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                            • #15
                              research is missing on lots of issues in the east.
                              i think people choose to be what they are.
                              revo is a fine example of a psycho. he loses a debate and flips out on everyone. he uses the least reasonable tactics when he feels threatened though spouting the message of logic and reason.
                              if he gets mad with the men, he gets anal and throws the gay tag at them. so overly anal that i have suspicions that he may be a closetted.
                              getting mad at a 64 year old woman who efficently outwitted him, he tries the sexual intimidation tactic, pretending he is a heterosexual stud, with a grandmother fixation.
                              in fact, i would surmise, the chap is still not sure yet, if he is arthur or martha.
                              his obsession with the need to be right hints at an inferiority complex and in his moments of fury, all his supposed muslim morality, and mutazeal rationality, logic and reason, are dismissed and replaced with their opposites.
                              sad case, really.
                              Last edited by faye; 07-19-2012, 09:56 PM.

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