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  • #16
    There are ethnic pashtuns who live like wannabe iranians and there are pashtunized arab tribes like muqbil.

    Pashtun identity is cultural not genetic.
    Originally posted by Firdousi
    Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
      There are ethnic pashtuns who live like wannabe iranians and there are pashtunized arab tribes like muqbil.

      Pashtun identity is cultural not genetic.
      But since we are categorizing pashtuns as a race, the genetics inheritance needs to be considered. I was not raised as a pashtun,I don't even know pasthu well but I have pashtun blood in my veins

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      • #18
        Scientifically you can trace your ancestry from the Y chromosome which can only be tracked from father to father to father to father etc its not possible to trace your ancestry from mother to mother to mother..if you have a problem then argue with science, biology, human body and genetics.
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        *You cannot climb the ladder of success with your hands in your pockets*

        Originally posted by Karachi
        like I said, there was only one reason I pretended to be pathan, for a girl, who was from Afghan forums and also registered here

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        • #19
          Originally posted by pllaybuoy View Post
          But since we are categorizing pashtuns as a race, the genetics inheritance needs to be considered. I was not raised as a pashtun,I don't even know pasthu well but I have pashtun blood in my veins
          Pashtuns are not a race. One who doesnt speak Pashto cannot be a Pashtun.
          Originally posted by Firdousi
          Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
            There are ethnic pashtuns who live like wannabe iranians and there are pashtunized arab tribes like muqbil.

            Pashtun identity is cultural not genetic.
            Pashtun identity is genetic not cultural. Tajik identity is cultural and can refer to anyone such as a spineless troll like yourself.
            "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

            -Old Pashtun proverb




            "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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            • #21
              Explain why large groups among Zadran Tanay and ghiljay have mongoloid eyes.
              Originally posted by Firdousi
              Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
                Explain why large groups among Zadran Tanay and ghiljay have mongoloid eyes.
                I've never seem Ghilzai with "mongoloid eyes" you need to buy yourself a pair of glasses. Btw king Zahir Shah and his family were persianized to the core and spoke Farsi as a first language but still considerd themselves FULL Pashtun. Nuristani also speak Pashto but are they considered pashtun? NO.

                If you trace yourself to a Pashtun tribe you are pashtun. Case closed!
                "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

                -Old Pashtun proverb




                "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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                • #23
                  You probably never visited Khost and Paktia. Stop basing your identity on wikipedia.

                  There are many pashtunized tribes. For instance there are hindu converts to Islam who claim to be from the tribe of their area. There are many turkic tribes assimilated by Pashtun culture. They ascribe themselves to Pashtuns. Similarly there are entire tribes of Arabs like Muqbil and Turi.

                  Instead of acting like a bad mouthed emotional teenager during Ramadan, try to learn about your culture and heritage from books and visit core areas of Pashtuns to learn.
                  Originally posted by Firdousi
                  Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
                    You probably never visited Khost and Paktia. Stop basing your identity on wikipedia.

                    There are many pashtunized tribes. For instance there are hindu converts to Islam who claim to be from the tribe of their area. There are many turkic tribes assimilated by Pashtun culture. They ascribe themselves to Pashtuns. Similarly there are entire tribes of Arabs like Muqbil and Turi.

                    Instead of acting like a bad mouthed emotional teenager during Ramadan, try to learn about your culture and heritage from books and visit core areas of Pashtuns to learn.
                    I've canceled out emotions a long time ago actually. It seems like your information is Wikipedia and you have butcherd it very well. Oh and i have met a hotak from Balkh who looked NOTHING like a Mongol. Instead if speaking out if your arse, go talk to some actual pashtuns and not ones over the Internet. And I know Farsiwans like you use this excuse to cause diversions against Pashtuns and make them fight.
                    "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

                    -Old Pashtun proverb




                    "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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                    • #25
                      you are what your dad is not your mother

                      because daddy's got the "sperm". you are a sperm

                      daddy decides whether its a girl or a boy, not the mother

                      mother is like the outer shell of formation, like a "caccoon" or the eggshell. the real deal is inside what matters. females and males both are "sperms" which comes from the male. so you are what your dad is because whther you are a male or a female you are a sperm from your daddy. mother is just like an engine to form you. like an incubator for an egg.

                      plus if you look in islam. we read durood ibrahimi and in that its mentioned O Allah bless the al of ibrahim (son of ibrahim). Ibrahim's wife isn't mentioned there since sperm from the dad and ancestory comes from the male. The Prophet himself said i was a son of ibrahim.

                      plus i can give you numerous examples. but you get the idea. if your dad is pashtun you are a pashtun. period.

                      you are a "pashtun sperm"
                      Last edited by M17ArnoBaloch; 07-22-2013, 08:03 PM.
                      جی وا ترا بلوچ ، ذندان بلوچ ، کلو واتنییے
                      G wa tra Baloch , Balochistan Zindabad

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by M17ArnoBaloch View Post
                        you are what your dad is not your mother

                        because daddy's got the "sperm". you are a sperm

                        daddy decides whether its a girl or a boy, not the mother

                        mother is like the outer shell of formation, like a "caccoon" or the eggshell. the real deal is inside what matters. females and males both are "sperms" which comes from the male. so you are what your dad is because whther you are a male or a female you are a sperm from your daddy. mother is just like an engine to form you. like an incubator for an egg.

                        plus if you look in islam. we read durood ibrahimi and in that its mentioned O Allah bless the al of ibrahim (son of ibrahim). Ibrahim's wife isn't mentioned there since sperm from the dad and ancestory comes from the male. The Prophet himself said i was a son of ibrahim.

                        plus i can give you numerous examples. but you get the idea. if your dad is pashtun you are a pashtun. period.

                        you are a "pashtun sperm"
                        That is a very nice philosophy but not biologically true.I am not a medical student but as far as I know in REproduction a total of 52 or 53 chromosomes are required 20 something from each parent so you get the equal genetics.Besides that some inherit some properties from one parent and others from the other , totally random :/ Once again I am not going to debate much on this since I am not a medical student.Mind my ignorance but I am sure that you are not ONLY what your father is
                        Last edited by pllaybuoy; 07-23-2013, 11:36 AM.

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