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    Malaysia and Bangladesh are the two Muslim countries I like the most...moderate Muslims that stick to their identity, nationalism, traditions as well as belief and also host diversity...We are producing Taleban, they are producing skilled engineers and professionals...Some of our people want our brethern back home to fight for Arab supremacy while they enjoy the comforts of post-modern life so they satisfy their ego...If I ever had to marry, I'll marry a Bangladeshi or a Malaysian lady ...hahaha...

    YouTube - School of Engineering & Computer Science (SECS), Independent University, Bangladesh (IUB), 2010[/URL]

    YouTube - School of Engineering & Computer Science (SECS), Independent University, Bangladesh (IUB)[/URL]

    YouTube - American International University-Bangladesh[/URL]
    Last edited by Toramana; 01-10-2011, 12:44 AM.

  • #2
    Bangladeshi people are very nice people.
    i hope they get everything they wish for.

    Bangladesh was actully one of the countries doing business with afghanistan when UN had put sanctions on Afghanistan from 96 to 2001/

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    • #3
      While it's true that Bangladesh has some decent educational facilities and a pretty established educated class there. there is still widespread corruption, extreme poverty and lot of openly tolerated moral degeneracy there. Much of Bangladesh's highly educated and skilled sector suffers "brain drain" to other countries. There is a lot of disorganization, kleptocracy and fragmentation in the developmental ventures. The rural regions do show some signs of improvement but are often largely ignored. plus serious Environmental Crimes such as deforestation and exploiting Santals and tribal minorities in Bangladesh who are being forced off their land for Timber and Rubber Sap.

      This isn't to downplay their merits; because Bengali culture in it's heart has many beauties and appreciable qualities. This is about seeing the world honestly.

      We have lot of Bangladeshi Students where I work, one of the researchers here is Bangladeshi ( ironically we have the same last name). Most of these people come here from already highly educated backgrounds but the problem is Bangladeshi Degrees are not respected the world over, so they come here for an American Degree, most of them do not return to Bangladesh. In many ways Bangladesh has the same problems as Pakistan, except no military Government, just corrupt civilian Government.

      But then again my view of progress is measured from an Environmentalists stand point so I don't value technocratic institutions as the ideal but rather a detriment.
      Last edited by ScimitarXEdge; 01-10-2011, 12:17 PM.

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      • #4
        The Pakistani Genocide didn't really affect Bangladesh infrastructurally; I think the problems in Bangladesh just has to do with internal corruption.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by ScimitarXEdge View Post
          The Pakistani Genocide didn't really affect Bangladesh infrastructurally; I think the problems in Bangladesh just has to do with internal corruption.
          Try telling that to a Bengali. They claim Pak Army killed most of their talented administrators and intellectuals. This theory coined by Bengalis does indeed sound plausible, especially since they swear that the Pakistani Army ruined most of their infrastructure. I never knew how much Bengalis hated Pakistanis up until I met several hundreds of em. Hell, they even refuse to speak Urdu. At first I was puzzled, later on a Bangladeshi Professor who taught at Dhaka University told me that Urdu is something that reminds them of the atrocities committed by the Pakistani Army.

          P.S
          Obviously not all Bengalis hate Pakistan.
          Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.

          A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai

          For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."


          The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!

          -Ferishta, 1560–1620

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          • #6
            There are two aspects:

            1. There was hardly any investment in Bengali infrastructure by the Punjabi/Mohajir dominated Pakistani government when it was part of Pakistan. E. Pakistan was like a colony whose resources were plundered and invested back in W. Pakistan. So they have had quite a late start.

            2. As Admin Khan has already hinted, in the first stage of genocide all the Bengali intellectuals and educated class were hunted down because they were at the forefront of the independence movement. I think there is also a video on tube in which Pak Military is shown lining up some Bengali intellectuals in Dhaka university and shooting them.

            BTW one finds corruption in every developing country, what is important is that Bangladesh is on the right path.
            Vande Mataram - Lata Mangeshkar - YouTube

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Admin Khan View Post
              Try telling that to a Bengali. They claim Pak Army killed most of their talented administrators and intellectuals. This theory coined by Bengalis does indeed sound plausible, especially since they swear that the Pakistani Army ruined most of their infrastructure. I never knew how much Bengalis hated Pakistanis up until I met several hundreds of em. Hell, they even refuse to speak Urdu. At first I was puzzled, later on a Bangladeshi Professor who taught at Dhaka University told me that Urdu is something that reminds them of the atrocities committed by the Pakistani Army.

              P.S
              Obviously not all Bengalis hate Pakistan.


              Well I'm going by the historical accounts; Pakistan did indeed commit atrocities in Bangladesh but they very rarely targeted infrastructure; the reason being is because they felt that Infrastructure was property of Pakistan and therefore would be financially detrimental. They wanted to retain Bangladesh because it produced a great deal of jute and other raw materials and had a great deal of textiles.

              As for killing many Bengali intellectuals; this is absolutely true; but The Intellectual Community in Bangladesh was not wiped out; in fact they were apart of the Freedom Alliance in Bangladesh. What happened though is afterwards most of them ended up leaving Bangladesh for America because Bangladesh wasn't very beneficial. That's why most Bangladeshi immigrants came primarily during the 80's and 90's and not the 70's

              Remember Jackson Heights , it used to be mainly Hispanics, now it's almost all Bangladeshis.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by drona View Post
                There are two aspects:

                1. There was hardly any investment in Bengali infrastructure by the Punjabi/Mohajir dominated Pakistani government when it was part of Pakistan. E. Pakistan was like a colony whose resources were plundered and invested back in W. Pakistan. So they have had quite a late start.

                2. As Admin Khan has already hinted, in the first stage of genocide all the Bengali intellectuals and educated class were hunted down because they were at the forefront of the independence movement. I think there is also a video on tube in which Pak Military is shown lining up some Bengali intellectuals in Dhaka university and shooting them.

                BTW one finds corruption in every developing country, what is important is that Bangladesh is on the right path.

                No Asian country is on the right path as long as we cow tow capitalism.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by ScimitarXEdge View Post
                  Well I'm going by the historical accounts; Pakistan did indeed commit atrocities in Bangladesh but they very rarely targeted infrastructure; the reason being is because they felt that Infrastructure was property of Pakistan and therefore would be financially detrimental. They wanted to retain Bangladesh because it produced a great deal of jute and other raw materials and had a great deal of textiles.
                  Fair enough.
                  As for killing many Bengali intellectuals; this is absolutely true;
                  Like I said, you and I both have no proof for the claims we are making here. We are simply speculating here. I am telling you what the Bangladeshi community has told me. Try asking any level-headed Bengali in Jackson Heights if the Pakistanis killed their intellectuals, and I am confident an overwhelming majority will agree. I ask these kind of questions, usually to the senior Bengalis and they have all shared their "personal" stories with me on how the army killed most of the professors in Dhaka University, etc. I obviously have no authoritative source for the aforementioned claims, but I do give some credibility to what these Bengalis have told me. Had it been just one person, I would have brushed it off as a rumor, but trust me, I have asked many!


                  Remember Jackson Heights , it used to be mainly Hispanics, now it's almost all Bangladeshis.
                  Jackson Heights was actually mainly Indian. The Hispanics traditionally dominated Corona, which is just a few blocks up starting on 82nd st. 70-74th st is now dominated by Bengalis, Nepalis and Tibetans. Indians still own most of the shops. However, they now reside in Long Island. Some Indians[ Punjabis Sikhs] have started communities in Richmond Hill, Queens.
                  Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.

                  A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai

                  For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."


                  The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!

                  -Ferishta, 1560–1620

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                  • #10
                    Admin Khan, I don't understand your response; I said the killing of Intellectuals WAS ABSOLUTELY TRUE, meaning that I agreed with you; what I don't agree with is that it wiped out most of the intellectuals. It did happen but many were alive because they sought refuge in India and came back to reestablish the Bangladeshi government, then they left and hence the brain drain.

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                    • #11
                      It's not a rumor; it actually happened

                      1971 killing of Bengali intellectuals - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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                      • #12
                        Scimitor,
                        My sincere apologies. I thought you said "Absolutely not true".

                        Bakshana darsa ghwarama. I guess I am so used people disagreeing, ka na?
                        Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.

                        A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai

                        For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."


                        The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!

                        -Ferishta, 1560–1620

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                        • #13
                          LOL parwah nishta za di bakhum

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by ScimitarXEdge View Post
                            This verifies what the seniors had told me.

                            Thanks Scimitar!
                            Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.

                            A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai

                            For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."


                            The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!

                            -Ferishta, 1560–1620

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                            • #15
                              der khwakh dai

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