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    This is for those who are applying to graduate schools right now or plan to in the future. Graduate school means a Master's or a PhD, or a combination in some cases. What I'm saying below may be relevant to only some fields, particularly the humanities and social sciences.

    I'll share information/hints on the Personal Statement in another thread, but for now, this is just for how to select the school that best fits you and your interests.

    1. Make sure that you start your research long before you start your applications. I'd suggest, from personal experiences, something like perhaps 3-4 months in advance. This means you should contact the departments of the schools you're interested in, contact the faculty (if their research/academic interests aren't available on their website, email them and ask them what they do), tell them what YOUR interests are and ask them to refer you to someone in that school who does what you wanna do. It's okay if you email more than necessary -- that way, when they get your application, they won't go, "Hm, who's this person?" (Chances are, if they recognize your name, they might give your application more time.)

    2. Remember that you don't have to apply directly to the department through which you'd like your degree in. For instance, if you wanna do something like Islamic Studies, you don't necessarily have to apply to the Religious Studies department of all schools; you might find that the Arabic Studies department is stronger and has a better faculty who meets your research needs, OR maybe the Anthropology Department is even better. You'd just have to explain it very, very clearly what exactly you want your degree in so that they get the connection between your department/degree and research pursuits.

    3. Not all schools (rather, barely any) require a Master's for PhD candidates. So if you don't have an MA/MS and don't want one, know that you MAY not need one, although it depends on the school you're applying to. In rare cases, even a school that has made it clear to all potential candidates that you MUST have a Master's will make exceptions if you're an exceptional student.

    4. Some schools offer a combination of a Master's and PhD in some departments -- in the exact same amount of time as a regular PhD would take (~ 5 years). If you're interested in getting two degrees through one application and in one go, check with your potential school.

    5. Be sure to let your recommenders know WAY ahead of time that they'll be writing your recommendation letters (I mean, ask them, of course, not tell them; it's more polite and appreciated). Set deadlines for yourself. The deadline for most PhD applications are on or around Dec. 15th of each year. IMPORTANT: Some schools have this policy that your recommenders won't be able to write/submit your letter until AFTER you have submitted your application! This can be dangerous, especially if you wait till the last minute to submit your application. So be sure to let your recommenders know if this is the case with any of the schools you're applying to, and discuss with them your timing so that they can have ample time to write your letter.

    6. You choose your school not for its name/prestige but for at least ONE person who can work with you there. You have to have a certain research topic (although not necessarily determined at the time you're applying), and you NEED to choose a school that has the resources to help you pursue that particular topic. If the school doesn't have the faculty to meet your interests/needs, then you are not going to get accepted, even if your application receives the highest ranking.

    Umm... I believe that's all that I can think of for now. More tips may come to mind later.

  • #2
    Originally posted by Roshina View Post
    This is for those who are applying to graduate schools right now or plan to in the future. Graduate school means a Master's or a PhD, or a combination in some cases. What I'm saying below may be relevant to only some fields, particularly the humanities and social sciences.

    I'll share information/hints on the Personal Statement in another thread, but for now, this is just for how to select the school that best fits you and your interests.

    1. Make sure that you start your research long before you start your applications. I'd suggest, from personal experiences, something like perhaps 3-4 months in advance. This means you should contact the departments of the schools you're interested in, contact the faculty (if their research/academic interests aren't available on their website, email them and ask them what they do), tell them what YOUR interests are and ask them to refer you to someone in that school who does what you wanna do. It's okay if you email more than necessary -- that way, when they get your application, they won't go, "Hm, who's this person?" (Chances are, if they recognize your name, they might give your application more time.)

    2. Remember that you don't have to apply directly to the department through which you'd like your degree in. For instance, if you wanna do something like Islamic Studies, you don't necessarily have to apply to the Religious Studies department of all schools; you might find that the Arabic Studies department is stronger and has a better faculty who meets your research needs, OR maybe the Anthropology Department is even better. You'd just have to explain it very, very clearly what exactly you want your degree in so that they get the connection between your department/degree and research pursuits.

    3. Not all schools (rather, barely any) require a Master's for PhD candidates. So if you don't have an MA/MS and don't want one, know that you MAY not need one, although it depends on the school you're applying to. In rare cases, even a school that has made it clear to all potential candidates that you MUST have a Master's will make exceptions if you're an exceptional student.

    4. Some schools offer a combination of a Master's and PhD in some departments -- in the exact same amount of time as a regular PhD would take (~ 5 years). If you're interested in getting two degrees through one application and in one go, check with your potential school.

    5. Be sure to let your recommenders know WAY ahead of time that they'll be writing your recommendation letters (I mean, ask them, of course, not tell them; it's more polite and appreciated). Set deadlines for yourself. The deadline for most PhD applications are on or around Dec. 15th of each year. IMPORTANT: Some schools have this policy that your recommenders won't be able to write/submit your letter until AFTER you have submitted your application! This can be dangerous, especially if you wait till the last minute to submit your application. So be sure to let your recommenders know if this is the case with any of the schools you're applying to, and discuss with them your timing so that they can have ample time to write your letter.

    6. You choose your school not for its name/prestige but for at least ONE person who can work with you there. You have to have a certain research topic (although not necessarily determined at the time you're applying), and you NEED to choose a school that has the resources to help you pursue that particular topic. If the school doesn't have the faculty to meet your interests/needs, then you are not going to get accepted, even if your application receives the highest ranking.

    Umm... I believe that's all that I can think of for now. More tips may come to mind later.
    Dha dhumra khwari ba sook kai,

    any easy short cuts? MNA seats, tribal seats, shudra seats? anything?

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    • #3
      Know how to sell your self...

      it's a good skill to have and one that you will will use throughout your career, in research of otherwise.

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      • #4
        If you attend a large University, and if you have a good GPA, some universities will almost always automatically accept you in their graduate programs. For example, If someone wants a Masters degree in Computer Science, they are required to graduate with a 3.2(and up)GPA and that's all. Most of the requirements mentioned, are almost always waived. It all depends on what kind of University you attend. :-)
        Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.

        A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai

        For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."


        The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!

        -Ferishta, 1560–1620

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        • #5
          Roshina,
          If a student meets the GPA requirement, the chair of the department gets his/her foot in the door. For example, Computer Science and accounting department in my University has told students, if you have a x.x GPA, you are in the Masters program. In fact, I know of a college that has a well articulated agreement with many IVY leagues, that college says if you have a 3.6 you are automatically in xyz IVY league. Usually Universities have contracts with one another. So it depends on where you live. I happen to live in the hub of education, there are many opportunities here and many ways to get most of those requirements waived. It's about who you know, and obviously your GPA above all. I have friends who have Ph.Ds and they never took a grad school exam. :-)

          It's really about where you reside. If you live in a state where there are generally not that many universties, expect fierce competition. If you live in London or New York, you obviously have a huge advantage over your counterparts.
          Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.

          A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai

          For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."


          The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!

          -Ferishta, 1560–1620

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          • #6
            I envy the kids that don't have to take a grad entrance exam. There a lots of schools in my area that do the same, it just depends on your GPA. If you're GPA is high enough, you don't have to take the GRE's. Of course, if the program you're trying to get into is very competitive then by all means, take the GRE's or whatever exam you need to take, to prove to the school that you're beyond what their requirements are. It's all a numbers game for them. Prove to them that you'll make their rankings go up. This is especially the case with law schools. The law schools need to show that their rankings are going up, and in order to achieve that they need higher GPA's and LSAT scores. I know people that have had both and got pretty sweet scholarships. So even if say, you have the grades that Princeton wants, but another school has a program that offers the same as Princeton does, and is offering you money to go into their program. Do it. --again I'm not sure if all grad schools do this. My research has been mainly focused on law schools.

            As for Law School, you have to take the LSAT there's no way you can get into a school without an LSAT, actually you cannot even apply to a law school without it. The LSAC won't allow you to.
            "Do not lose hope in adversity and complain that God singled you out for punishment, remitting others guilty of worse sins. Your present state could very well be His intent to elevate your spiritual station. Or He could just be testing your faith. Everyday that you persevere, you grow closer to perfection. Thus, your present despair may be the beginning of an infinite blessing". - Shaykh Abdul Qadir Jilani.

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            • #7
              I am thinking about going for my masters before med school.....Roshina and Kandahari Ella, what do you both think?

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