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Reading some people replies and reading about computer science online, most people said it's really hard. so i might think about it, but i still will like to go into maybe IT..inshallah i will know as time goes by.
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^computer science is a field for programmers. you might wanna take a class or two of programming and see if u like it.
I suggest you take "C++" or visual basic. see if u like programming... if it doesn't interest you then i suggest u choose a different major, caz CS is mostly programming.Comment
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Feroza khor,
Computer Science is a lot more than just programming. It has I believe 800 sub categories. Writing programs is just one path you can pursue with a CS degree. You can even be a Database administrator, an IT consultant, work for a Helpdesk for a major technological corporation or be a project manager for mobile operating systems. In fact, you can even work in the telecommunications industry.
Sitaara, don't let anyone discourage you. Take a basic CS course and see if you enjoy it. I will just warn you that it's a math intensive major. If you aren't good in Math, don't destroy your GPA by taking CS. It's also a pretty long major, which is just one of the reasons why it's in demand. :-)Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.
A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai
For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."
The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!
-Ferishta, 1560–1620Comment
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^thats great then, because i know for a fact that programming is not everyone's cup of tea. i have seen many change majors because of programming... oh wait those students were computer engineering student... ya seems like CS would be broader than that.Comment
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The thing about CS is it has a lot of math. It requires think, and if you aren't a sharp thinker, you wouldn't be successful. Many students after taking a few calculus course drop CS a major because they can't handle the math.Originally posted by Feroza_Banu View PostEven Adobe Photoshop can't change me.
A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai
For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."
The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!
-Ferishta, 1560–1620Comment
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^aahh i see. so how much math is required for the program... up to differential equations or more?Comment
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The thing about CS is it has a lot of problem-solving which generally requires someone to think and analyze. Many students after taking a few calculus course drop CS as a major. Why? Because they can't handle the math and thinking. The same goes for Electrical Engineering, if someone is horrible in Physics and Math, and if they refuse to sit down and learn, it just isn't for them. One of the reasons why there is an influx of immigrants in the USA is because they have talent, Americans unfortunately don't like Math and foreign languages. The irony in this is that the USA is still the most technological and innovative nation in the world.Originally posted by Feroza_Banu View PostEven Adobe Photoshop can't change me.
A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai
For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."
The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!
-Ferishta, 1560–1620Comment
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^yes i agree... electrical engineering is all mathematics and electronic concepts up until the end. THere is no way, absolutely no way to avoid math.
and i agree... in our departmenat at university, the whites were the minority. we used to joke with them in our IEEE hall whenever they would come to study, and say, "hello white man, what r u doing here"... fun times!
P.S. there were literally about 4 to 5 white guys in our engineering senior year.Comment
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I am really happy to know that you majored in EE. I was shocked because you are the only Afghan girl I know who has majored in EE. EE is not easy people, I repeat, you must be a sharp logical thinker. The Afghans that reside in the east coast are pretty big on majoring in accounting. My problem with Accounting is that it does not have much Math in it's curriculum which makes it more competitive, because every Tom and Harry can learn the GAAP and be an accountant. Perozey, Imagine if Afghans back home had the kind of opportunity that we have here.Originally posted by Feroza_Banu View Post
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I just noticed this thread was meant to be for ladies, I apologize ladies.Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.
A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai
For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."
The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!
-Ferishta, 1560–1620Comment
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mashallah im impressed feroza im even more impressed that you wasnt born and rasied there but you proved them all mashallah i know theres alot afghan males who are engineers but not women im proud of you as maths is very difficult in engineering and its required well its required in what im doing even which is biochemistry 3 cheers for feroza the engineerOriginally posted by Feroza_Banu View Postnot a field many women choose... electrical engineering (concentration in analog design, and minor in mathematics). currently working full time as prouct safety engineer and i really like my job.
Its one of the toughest field, with high competition in industry.... but the job has a position and respect that average fields lack.
i like the fact that i break alot of stereotypes about afghan women amongst average Americans. i get all sorts of reaction when they find out i am afghan and NOT born and raised in america
I am also happy to say I know 4 other Afghan female engineers who are close friends of mine. very talented girls and making our community proud
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^Admin wror: i pray that inshaAllah one day every Afghan get this opportunity that we got.
i may be the only one you know, but I am proud to announce that I have 2 other Afghan friends (girls) who have majored in EE and are currently working in Industry with well known companies.Comment
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thank you so much, i am humbled.Originally posted by kakargirl View Postmashallah im impressed feroza im even more impressed that you wasnt born and rasied there but you proved them all mashallah i know theres alot afghan males who are engineers but not women im proud of you as maths is very difficult in engineering and its required well its required in what im doing even which is biochemistry 3 cheers for feroza the engineer
Biochemistry!... wow namekhuda. thats wonderful!, I am so happy to see so many motivated young ladies on this board....
these science subjects (math, chem, bio, physics) are not easy to tackle i know... may God bless you with success in your field... aameen.Comment
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If you want to go for a bachelor degree in Computer Science, that may be potentially a good choice. The initial two/three terms/semester may a bit math-heavy (calculus, linear algebra, analytical geometry, statistics, etc.) also with some physics (electricity and magnetism, electronics, more importantly). In later terms, you may be taught other maths-oriented courses (e.g. Discrete Maths, etc.) .
The other thing in Computer Science that is challenging is programming. Some students find it hard to master or even grasp its concept. Others pick the concept very quickly. And that really doesn't strictly depend on your mathematical background (although that may be helpful). That ONLY depends on your problem-solving ability.
You can avoid some mathematics courses in CS. That depends on how you choose your courses and the curriculum offered by the university. Some universities have CS programs that are more maths-heavy; some have less maths-heavy programs.
Then there are some tracks in CS that are more maths-heavy; some are less maths-heavy. Even there are tracks with less or almost no programming . Below is some guideline,
---Less maths/programming heavy
Database Administrator
System Engineer/Network Engineer
System Adminstrator
Data Modelor, Database Designer
Systems Analyst
-More programming heavy
Software Engineer
Computer Programmer
Developer
If you don't want to invest much time, you can go for diploma/certificate level courses focussing on a specific tool or narrow CS/IT domains e.g. offered at some community college. You can be hired as a technologist, programmer, network engineer, etc. depending on the skills you acquire and the concepts you learn...
As for grades, if you are an average student and submit your assignments in time and are able to solve some part of your assignment correctly, and write your exams/tests neatly and concisely, you can easily get 80+ (A- or A or 3.5 GPA) in individual courses. Most importantly, give your teacher the impression you are a serious student and are concerned about your work.
I have noticed female students are usually very good in completing their work in time compared to male students who generally are lazy and careless even if they are intelligent.
Hope this is bit helpful.Last edited by Toramana; 12-08-2010, 09:39 PM.Comment
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Yes, absolutely...You can still become a very good computer programmer for example...With a graduate degree in maths, you can even go for a Ph. D. in Computer Science...Originally posted by Aseer JaanComment
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A BS in Biological Sciences focuses about 2 years in Computer Science.
My first year in college, i had a lot of students from the Computer Science program with me in my prerequisite classes. Thats when i changed my major to a BS in Biology since i wanted a more focus on health science.
Majority of the guys in my extended family has studied Business or Computer Science, and naamekhoda, very talented and sharp boys. They all have really good jobs in Afghanistan with a high pay.
Feroza khorey, i give you a lot of props. I have never met a woman, let alone an Afghan/Pashtun woman who has studied Electrical Engineering......mashallah you have broken that ice. I only have one girl in my family that has studied Civil Engineering, and i am so proud of her
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