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  • What persudaded Pakistan to rethink its Afghan policy?

    I don't know what to make of this article....I am interested in feedback.


    What persuaded Pakistan to rethink its Afghan policy?


    By AHMAD HASIB FARHAN - Sat May 23 2015, 4:36 pm


    Pakistan policy towards Afghanistan

    The bilateral relations between Afghanistan and Pakistan are underpinned by unprecedented warmth and mutual trust since the establishment of the National Unity Government in Kabul. The main factors that have contributed for the positive development is the new leadership in Kabul and the new military leadership in Pakistan. Both sides has expressed great desire to start a new chapter in bilateral relations.

    Since December, 2014 a series of high-level exchanges have taken place between Afghan and Pakistani government officials to explore areas of mutual cooperation. Pakistan’s National Security Advisor Sartaj Aziz, Chief of Army Staff (COAS) Raheel Sharif, and Director General of Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) Rizwan Akhtar have made several separate visits to Kabul.
    On May 12, the Pakistani Prime Minister, Mohammad Nawaz Sharif also led a high-level government delegation to Kabul for a tête-à-tête with President Ghani to discuss the situation with special emphasis on efforts being made to bring the Taliban onto the negotiation table. This was Premier Sharif’s first visit to Afghanistan after the establishment of National Unity Government in Kabul.

    Though, the outcome of these visit and talks are not clear as no real work has been done on the ground, yet it gives optimism to the government of Afghanistan that Pakistan has changed its Afghan policy. However, the Afghan people remains vigilant and skeptical about Sharif’s vision towards Afghanistan. It is precisely because of Sharif’s previous role in backing the mujahedin resistance against the government of Mohammad Najibullah’s in 1990, culminating in a change of government that plunged Afghanistan into years of civil war. It was Sharif who played the key role in dismantling the Afghan security forces in 1992 and fulfilling the mission of bringing Afghanistan into “Pakistan’s sphere of influence”. It was also Sharif’s government that officially recognized the Taliban regime in Kabul on 25 May 1997. Sharif went a step further and openly praised Taliban and their policies in Afghanistan during his failed attempts to introduce Sharia law in Pakistan through a constitutional amendment in 1998.

    Premier Sharif and the army establishment of Pakistan share much in common and both have a proven track record of proximity to the Afghan Taliban. Though, hostile in the past, Premier Sharif’s new approach towards Afghanistan is encouraging. In his recent visit to Kabul Sharif demonstrated a positive change in his vision about Afghanistan

    “Any effort by any militant or group to destabilize Afghanistan will be dealt with severely and such elements will be outlawed and hunted down,” Premier Sharif said at a joint appearance with President Ghani after their talks at the presidential palace in Kabul. “I assure you, Mr. President, that the enemies of Afghanistan cannot be friends of Pakistan,” he added.

    He also denounced the Afghan Taliban’s spring offensive. Premier Nawaz said that Islamabad and Kabul recognized that an enduring peace in Afghanistan would be a distant dream, without an inclusive intra-Afghan reconciliation. “I reaffirmed Pakistan’s full support for an Afghan-owned and Afghan-led peace and reconciliation process and assured the president of making all possible efforts in this regard.”

    This is the first time in Pakistan’s history that both military establishment and civilian government adopts a common and positive approach towards Afghanistan.

    Yet skeptic may ask what persuaded Pakistan to rethink its Afghan policy?

    Changing Pakistan

    Today’s Pakistan is not the Pakistan of 2001. The malaise of corruption is rampant; economic, energy and security sectors are in shambles. Pakistan is facing challenges and threats from within its borders. The battle of Baloch people for a free state and the Tahrik Taliban of Pakistan (TTP) insurgency increases and the direction of war moves from the tribal areas into the country’s major cities.

    In recent years, the Pakistan military establishment has come to realize that it has no choice but to take action against the militancy and bury the philosophy of good terrorists and bad terrorist.

    The military establishment of Pakistan understands that political stability is necessary in order to combat militancy. It was not a coincidence that for the first time in Pakistan’s history the military establishment allowed a civilian government of Asif Zardari to complete its five-year mandate. The army’s refusal to interfere in the parliamentary process indicates their acceptance that the country could not afford instability in this arena with the Taliban threat looming over the head.

    Along with internal political stability, the Pakistan military establishment also understands that this is time to stop its proxy war in Afghanistan. With a President like Ashraf Ghani on one side and the TTP on the other, Pakistan would be going the path of suicide if it continue supporting Afghan Taliban.
    Pakistan also understands that it faces no threat from Afghanistan. In fact, Pakistan is afraid of Indian influence in Afghanistan. In an interview with the Guardian, Musharraf admitted that when he was in power, Pakistan sought to undermine the government of former Afghan president Hamid Karzai because Karzai had “helped India stab Pakistan in the back”. But now the time had come to “totally cooperate” with Ashraf Ghani, who Musharraf believes is “the last hope for peace in the region”.However, India doesn’t think the way Pakistan do. India, indeed, is running an economic race with China to transform Asia and become a global economic power.

    International pressure

    The international pressure on Pakistan to destroy the safe heavens of terrorist and put an end to its three decade long covert war seems to have compelled the leaders of Pakistan to rethink its Afghan policy and stop supporting Taliban. In addition, Saudi Arabia a key regional player and China, Pakistan’s closest ally are also emerging from shadows and are ready to play a more constructive role in bringing peace to the region. Both nations have expressed their support for the peace initiative of President Ghani.

    China is increasingly worried about Uighur militants using Afghanistan and Pakistan as a haven. After a landmark visit of President Ashraf Ghani to China in October last year the Chinese government announced its full support the Afghan peach process. Beijing’s efforts include an invitation for the Taliban to visit China, which was accepted by the Taliban. Beijing has also sent envoys to meet with Taliban representatives to encourage talks.
    Now that China and Saudi Arabia are on the Afghan side, it is very unlikely that Pakistan would try to thwart the Afghan peace process by continuing its covert war in Afghanistan.

    Change in the Afghan approach

    President Ghani declared his agenda of political and economic reforms after his crystal clear victory in election. President Ghani understands that ending the war as the only way to rescue Afghanistan’s economy, therefore peace with the Taliban is his top priority. President Ghani widely traveled to gain regional and international support for his peace efforts.

    In addition, President Ghani has made it clear for both Pakistan and Taliban; “The war has been imposed on Afghanistan, and the Afghans are determined not to ever bow to the imposed war, however peace remains a sacred goal for Afghan government”. “We will respond to the imposed war with war, without forgetting the sacred goal of peace,” said President Ghani in a press conference.

    For the first time the Afghan president give a clear message to both Pakistan and Taliban.

    For Taliban, it simply means, we will fight back, if you kill our people we will kill you.

    For Pakistan, the meaning is clearer, you send a suicide bomber to Kabul, and we will send it to Pakistan, not to Peshawar or Karachi but to Lahore.


    You support Afghan Taliban, we will support TTP and Baloch Freedom
    movement. You (Pakistan) shelter Taliban and Haqqani network, we will turn Afghanistan into a safe haven for TTP and Baloch freedom movement.

    The Pakistani leadership, both military and civilian fully understand that Ghani is not Hamid Karzai. Ghani, simply means business. He knows what he wants and how to get it.


    Looking back at the history of Pakistan and its relation with Afghanistan and particularly with the United States its extremely challenging for the people of Afghanistan to trust Pakistan. There is still a danger that the military establishment of Pakistan may continue its duplicity. It was indeed Pakistan, who was the main ally of the United States in the war against terror and received millions of dollars to combat terrorism but it secretly produced and supported terrorist who killed more 2000 American soldiers and thousands of innocent people in Afghanistan. And yes, it was Pakistan that was fighting against Al-Qaeda but sheltered its leader near its capital city, Islamabad. It is hugely important for both the Afghan and Pakistan government to ensure that things are different this time. Pakistan should put its words into action to gain Afghan trust.

    Ahmad Hasib Farhan is a graduate of Kabul University and holds a Master degree from Japan in Public Policy and Economics. Farhan is an Afghan analyst and commentator on political and socio-economic affairs in Afghanistan. Farhan can be reached at haseebnadiri@gmail.com.

    The bilateral relations between Afghanistan and Pakistan are underpinned by unprecedented warmth and mutual trust since the establishment of the National




    My opinion

    The writer made some key points which include:

    1. Ghani has encircled Pakistan by getting its two most important allies, China and Saudi Arabia to support the Afghans.


    The Pakistanis will definitely be feeling the heat if these two very powerful states are breathing down their necks.



    2. Ghani is also making it clear (according to the writer), "I will fight fire with fire".





    No one can be sure, but the fact that the Pakistani army chief and ISI chief (real rulers of Pakistan) have flown to Kabul around 5 times in the past few months, means something BIG has happened.


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    P.S. Turkey is also another country which will not accept Taliban control of Afghanistan or at least the Turkic parts of it. Turkey is very influential in Afghanistan and has many soldiers there.
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    Shukran ya Masr!!!

    Thanks to Egypt for supporting Bangladesh against Pakistani harassment and support for terrorists and war criminals!!

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    Taliban and Haqqani members should be handed over to Kabul: Pakistani MP

    By MIRWAIS ADEEL - Mon Jun 01 2015, 9:44 pm

    Haqqani network

    A member of Pakistan’s National Assembly has said the members of the Afghan Taliban and Haqqani terrorist network should be handed over to Kabul in a bid to help revive Afghan peace talks.

    The remarks by Awais Ahmad Khan Laghari – chairman of National Assembly Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs, comes as President Mohammad Ashraf Ghani demanded Pakistan’s military leadership to issue a “directive” to deny sanctuary for the Afghan Taliban.

    President Ghani also demanded that “Pakistan should extend counterterrorism operations to the Haqqani network and arrest those responsible for the recent terrorist activities inside Afghanistan.”
    Halting longstanding support for Afghan militants, condemnation of the launch of the Taliban [spring] offensive by Islamabad, counter-terrorism operations against Haqqani network, placement of Quetta and Peshawar shura (the Taliban leadership council) members under house arrest, exchange of prisoners, deny Taliban combatants medical treatment inside Pakistan, and limit the sale of fertilizers and electrical switches that can be used in detonating improvised explosive devices (IEDs), were among the other demands made by President.

    “We should not have any problem in handing over the Afghan Taliban or members of Haqqani network to Afghanistan if this helps the reconciliation process,” Leghari quoted by The Express Tribune said.

    However, Laghari clarified he had no information whether any Afghan Taliban commanders were in Pakistan’s custody.

    “If they are in Pakistan, we must hand them over to Kabul because the objective of both the countries is to bring peace,” the chairman emphasised.

    The Afghan officials have long been criticizing Pakistan for providing sanctuaries for the Afghan militants to plot and coordinate attacks in Afghanistan.

    However, the Pakistani officials have repeatedly denied Pakistan is sheltering any Taliban commanders.

    A member of Pakistan's National Assembly has said the members of the Afghan Taliban and Haqqani terrorist network should be handed over to Kabul in a bid




    *This might be the first sign, however small, that Ghani's campaign is starting to make some sort of effect.
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    Shukran ya Masr!!!

    Thanks to Egypt for supporting Bangladesh against Pakistani harassment and support for terrorists and war criminals!!

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    • #3
      Ghani: Afghans will respond to force with force

      By KHAAMA PRESS - Mon Jun 01 2015, 8:50 pm



      Ghani

      President Mohammad Ashraf Ghani said Monday that the Afghan people will respond to force with force while calling the ongoing violence in the country an ‘imposed war’.

      The remarks by President Ghani were made during a trip to western Herat province of Afghanistan while he was speaking during a gathering attended by the Afghan National Security Forces.

      He said the enemies of Afghanistan are looking to weaken Afghanistan but the Afghan government and people will never negotiate from a weak position.

      “Enemy wants us weaken us but we are negotiating from a position of strength,” President Ghani said.

      He also pledged to increase benefits for the families of the fallen members of the Afghan National Security Forces.

      In regards to the capabilities of the Afghan Air Force, President Ghani said he is personally working on plans to boost the capabilities of the Afghan Air Force.

      President Ghani’s unannounced visit to Herat province comes amid deteriorating security situation across the country as the Taliban-led insurgency have been rampant since the group announced its summer offensive.

      President Mohammad Ashraf Ghani said Monday that the Afghan people will respond to force with force while calling the ongoing violence in the country an




      1. Ghani was talking about Pakistan imposing a war on his people.

      Pakistani/Punjabi nationalists may claim that Ghani wasn't referring to them but to other neighbours of Afghanistan such as Tajikistan, Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan.

      However every adult knows he is talking about the Pakistanis.





      2. The president of a Muslim country, Afghanistan, himself a Muslim is accusing Pakistan of waging a war against a Muslim nation.

      He will however be called a "Hindu agent", RAW/CIA/MOSSAD/KFC agent.

      Why? For daring to speak the truth about the Pakistani army and ISI.





      3. This article seems to confirm the OP ("Opening Post" of this thread, that Ghani is indeed threatening to retaliate with the same sort of tactics the Punjabi generals of Rawalpindi use against Afghans).




      4. Ghani has said that Afghans are negotiating from a position of strength.

      Is he right?

      Well anybody can say such rhetoric.


      However why have the head of Pakistan's super-duper nuclear armed 0.6 million strong armed forces and ISI both visited Kabul about 4-5 times in the past few months?

      Was it because they developed a strong liking for Kabuli pulaou?



      Kabuli Pulaou.

      Or maybe, just maybe they were concerned...worried...alarmed about a certain development.

      So yes it does indeed seem that Ghani is speaking from a position of strength.

      He has China, India, Russia (3 nuclear powers) behind him.

      Turkey (biggest army in Europe) behind him and behind his government partner Dostum.

      Tajikistan, Uzbekistan hate the Taliban too.

      He might even have Saudi Arabia behind him, which subsidizes Pakistan with free oil (deferred payments) and other things.



      Russia - anti-Taliban, pro-Ghani.



      China - anti-Taliban, pro-Ghani.



      India - anti-Taliban, pro-Ghani.



      Turkey - anti-Taliban, pro-Ghani.



      Iran - anti-Taliban, pro-Ghani.



      Saudi - anti-Taliban, pro-Ghani (most likely).



      Uzbekistan.



      Tajikistan.
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      Shukran ya Masr!!!

      Thanks to Egypt for supporting Bangladesh against Pakistani harassment and support for terrorists and war criminals!!

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      • #4
        He also spoke about an improving the air force.

        Improving the air force will just increase the huge gap in military capability that the Afghan army has over the Taliban.

        Coupled with the military war is the joint diplomatic war to weaken the Taliban and Ghani is pressurizing the Pakistanis heavily and it seems the Chinese might be pressurizing the Pakistanis too.

        For a Pakistani politician to talk of handing over the Taliban to Afghanistan (their strategic assets) is unprecedented.
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        Shukran ya Masr!!!

        Thanks to Egypt for supporting Bangladesh against Pakistani harassment and support for terrorists and war criminals!!

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        • #5
          Was it because they developed a strong liking for Kabuli pulaou?
          loooooool yes

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          • #6
            who told you that pakistan is rethinking it's Afghanistan policy?

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            • #7
              Pakistan played the same game with Karzai and the Americans back in 2001. They were created by the masters of misinformation, the Brits.

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              • #8
                Security situation deteriorating due to infiltration of insurgents from Pakistan: Sediqqi



                Sediq Sediqqi, spokesperson in the Ministry of Interior Affairs (MoIA)

                BY ZARIZA CORRESPONDENT PUBLISHED 2015-06-02


                With the alarming escalation of violence in recent weeks, the government and security agencies in Afghanistan are increasingly finding themselves in a precarious situation.

                Addressing a press conference in Kabul on Tuesday, Sediq Sediqqi, the spokesperson in the Ministry of Interior Affairs (MoIA), said a large number of insurgents have crossed over into Afghanistan from Pakistan due to ongoing military operation there.

                Taliban insurgents in Afghanistan, he said, are constantly receiving instructions from their commanders in the neighboring country.

                The activities of Taliban, Islamic State and other fringe militant groups, he said, are being closely monitored by security and intelligence agencies in Afghanistan.

                Mr. Sediqqi urged the people to extend their support and cooperation to security forces to thwart the sinister designs of insurgents.

                The activities of Taliban, Islamic State and other fringe militant groups, he said, are being closely monitored by security and intelligence agencies in Afghanistan

                Last week, in a letter addressed to Pakistan Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif, President Ashraf Ghani demanded that Pakistan end its support to armed oppositions groups.

                President Ghani enlisted seven key demands such as ending the undeclared war with Afghanistan and destroying the terror sanctuaries in that country.

                The letter asked political and military leadership of Pakistan to honor the commitments made to Afghanistan in terms of denying sanctuaries to Taliban militants in Pakistan.

                If they fail to respond and act on the demands in next three weeks, the “window of opportunity” opened by Kabul to end the “undeclared war” will be shut, the letter warned.

                - See more at: http://www.afghanzariza.com/2015/06/....WFLi1KK0.dpuf



                Afghanistan needs to tell Pakistan's sponsors, China and Saudi Arabia about this.

                They are sponsoring the state which sponsors the Taliban, so indirectly sponsors of the Taliban themselves.

                Saudi Arabia has heavy influence over Pakistan including giving it free oil, aid, military support etc.

                They need to use their influence to tell Pakistan to stop waging a terrorist campaign and war against a Muslim country.



                President Ghani with Salman al-Sudairi, the new head of Saudi Arabia.



                Salman Al-Sudairi, the new head of Saudi Arabia. He needs to tell the Pakistanis to end terrorism against Afghan civilians.


                It will be interesting to see if the Saudis who are so "opposed" to "terrorism" e.g. the Houthis, will say anything about Pakistan carrying out terrorism against Afghan women and children.
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                Shukran ya Masr!!!

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                • #9
                  Pakistani army chief Gen. Raheel Sharif to visit Kabul on Sunday

                  By KHAAMA PRESS - Fri Dec 25 2015, 2:45 pm



                  Gen. Sharif visit KabulThe Pakistani Chief of Army Staff Gen. Raheel Sharif will visit Kabul on 27th December to meet with the Afghan officials ,it has been reported.


                  A spokesman for the Pakistani military media wing Asim Bajwa said “During his day-long visit the army chief will hold meetings with senior political and military leadership of Afghanistan.”
                  No further details have been given regarding the agenda of Gen. Sharif’s visit to Kabul, however it is expected talks will be held on the Afghan peace process with the Taliban group.
                  This comes as the Afghan and Pakistani leadership discussed the stalled Afghan peace talks during the Heart of Asia conference in the capital city of Pakistan earlier this month.
                  Pakistan facilitated the first round of direct peace talks between the Afghan government and Taliban group in Islamabad this year but the second round of the talks scheduled in July failed with the disclosure of the death of Taliban founder and supreme leader Mullah Mohammad Omar.
                  Tensions between Kabul and Islamabad also escalated following a series of deadly attacks across the country and capital Kabul as Taliban launched their summer offensive this year, with Afghan officials slamming Islamabad for sheltering the anti-government armed militants in their soil from where they coordinate and execute attacks in Afghanistan.
                  Ahead of his visit to Islamabad for the Heart of Asia conference, President Ghani said negotiations with Pakistan would be more effective than sitting-in for peace talks with the Taliban group.
                  President Ghani further added that the policy of the Afghan government is clear and reiterated his last year’s remarks, saying that Afghanistan is engaged in an undeclared war with Pakistan during the past 14 years.

                  The Pakistani Chief of Army Staff Gen. Raheel Sharif will visit Kabul on 27th December to meet with the Afghan officials ,it has been reported. A




                  *Another visit by Saudi-backed terrorist Raheel Sharif (a.k.a Riyal Shareef).

                  Wonder what the reason is for this war criminal to visit Kabul.
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                  • #10
                    general anxiety. narindra modi comes to afghanistan and then, less than 24 hours later, general raheel sharief announces his plans of visiting kabul and that too, for the purposes of stirring "peace talks" between the afghan government and the filthbags known as talibs. cute.

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                    • #11
                      Islamabad, Kabul agree to push for peace negotiations




                      *First round of quadrilateral meeting in January to work out clear, comprehensive roadmap for a meaningful peace process

                      December 28, 2015




                      ISLAMABAD: Pakistan and Afghanistan on Sunday reiterated not to allow use of their respective soil against each other and agreed to sternly handle any elements crossing over and getting involved in violence on either side through active intelligence sharing and intelligence based operations.

                      Chief of Army Staff (COAS) General Raheel Sharif on Sunday visited Kabul and held meetings with Afghan President Ashraf Ghani and Chief Executive Dr Abdullah Abdullah.

                      Discussions were held on mutual security-related issues, including information sharing, coordinated counter-terrorism operations on respective sides and way forward for Afghan peace process, according to a press release issued by the Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR).

                      The COAS stressed on instituting an efficient mechanism for better coordination and preclude chances of any individual or group crossing over to either side.

                      Discussing the way forward for peace process in Afghanistan, both sides agreed to work in an already agreed quadrilateral framework. With a shared responsibility, all stakeholders would support and ensure success of an Afghan government-led intra-Afghan dialogue and reconciliation.

                      First round of quadrilateral meeting will be scheduled in January to work out a clear and comprehensive roadmap for a meaningful peace process with a clear demarcation of responsibilities of each stake holders at all stages.

                      Both sides agreed that they would pursue peace and recon with Taliban groups willing to join the process. Elements who would still continue to pursue violence will be dealt under a mutually worked out framework.

                      Emphasizing the need to improve bilateral relations, it was decided to establish a hot line contact between the director generals of Military Operation (DGMOs) of both countries and increase frequency of military-to-military visits for better coordination.

                      Later, the COAS met Gen John F Campbell, Commander Resolute Support Mission in Afghanistan, and visited Bagram Air Base, where he was briefed on the capabilities of the Resolute Support Mission and special operations.

                      Matters of mutual interest, regional security issues with particular reference to reconciliation process in Afghanistan and better coordination for operations along bordering regions came under discussion.

                      The visit is the latest in a series of encounters between officials and politicians from Pakistan, Afghanistan and India over recent months as cautious moves have begun toward easing longstanding tensions between Islamabad, New Delhi and Kabul.


                      Sharif’s visit to Kabul follows two meetings between Ghani and Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif over recent weeks that set the stage for efforts to restart Pakistan-brokered peace talks with the Taliban.

                      It comes two days after a surprise visit to Lahore by Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi, who stopped by in Lahore on his way back from a visit to Afghanistan where he opened a new Indian-financed parliament building and delivered three Russian-made military helicopters.

                      Gen Raheel Sharif was in Washington last month where President Barack Obama and officials pushed hard for a return to negotiations.





                      Why now?


                      Some ideas, they could be totally off the mark.

                      1. China is investing $50 billion in Pakistan so maybe the Chinese have pressured the Pakistanis to cut out their whole terrorism game in Afghanistan and try to work towards peace.


                      2. There are reports that the Pakistan army played a role in Modi visiting Lahore, so if there is an India-Pakistan rapprochement then the Indo-Pak proxy war in Afghanistan ends i.e. peace in Afghanistan as Pakistan backs the Taliban to install a pro-Pakistan/anti-India government.

                      It is too premature to make anything major out of this just yet though.


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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by DaZahroJaam. View Post
                        general anxiety. narindra modi comes to afghanistan and then, less than 24 hours later, general raheel sharief announces his plans of visiting kabul and that too, for the purposes of stirring "peace talks" between the afghan government and the filthbags known as talibs. cute.
                        wai dema masoomay trorey

                        the visit of Raheel sharif was announced earlier than modi visit
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                        • #13
                          BT,

                          Pakistan is a loser in this game and she is made to realize this. If it wants to play a hard ball then trust me so will others. China knows and sees through it that things are heading over the abyss. Unless there is a proper peace in Afghanistan CPEC and what not is a lousy dream.

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                          • #14
                            China realizes that it has the most the to gain from peace in Afghanistan. So will Pakistan, but Pakistan couldn't handle things on its own so China is needed. It is a good thing.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Da Bannu Mazdigar View Post
                              wai dema masoomay trorey

                              the visit of Raheel sharif was announced earlier than modi visit
                              Afghanistan2010, shut your face. i am not your pet, don't babytalk me.



                              so dear pakistanies, any clues on as to why the indian consulate in afghanistan has been under attack for the last two or three days?? could it possibly have something to do with modi's visit to afghanistan recently?? did raheel sharif come and go already??

                              "To burn always with this hard gemlike flame, to maintain this ecstasy, is success in life."





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