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    Can all of the pro-Taliban supporters here tell us their policies for Afghanistan.

    (@BarakzaiAbdali wrora this is not directed at you and I'm just waiting for your response but for some other immature sorts who indulge in name-calling and abuse but lack intelligence and substance.)


    Since the Taliban are "heroes" and are the "rightful governors" of 30 million Afghans.

    Can the Taliban-supporters here tell us what the wonderful Taliban are going to do when they reconquer Afghanistan.


    1. What are the economic policies of the Taliban?

    a: How will they utilize Afghanistan's valuable mineral resources to create jobs and investment?

    b: Will they accept Chinese and other companies being involved in mineral extraction, especially given that this is a specialized industrial sector that many countries do not have expertise in?

    c: What is their export strategy?

    In some countries (e.g. Bangladesh) foreign embassies of the country are assessed on how successfully they've achieved periodical export targets in the country they're based.


    d: What is their policy on infrastructure and roads?


    e: What is their policy on importing consumer goods?

    Or are consumer goods "haram" for Afghans but "halal" for their supporters living in America who support the Taliban from the comfort of their nice western homes?

    If they are "halal" then how will Afghans get the money to pay for consumer goods?


    2. What is the Taliban policy regarding the Afghan health system?


    a: Is it anything like the Pakistani Taliban's "health policy" of threatening to kill workers who carry out polio vacccinations?


    b: How will they attract foreign specialists to treat certain diseases?


    c: If they refuse to attract foreign specialists, or unable to (or as most likely never even thought about it but just thought about killing Afghans) how will they train local Afghans to be skilled medical practitioners?


    d: What sort of hospitals will they make? Do they intend to make hospitals?




    3. What is their education policy?


    a: What sort of primary, secondary and tertiary education will they have?


    b: Will they fund talented Afghan students with scholarships to study abroad? Or is that wrong because Afghans should not go to "evil Kafir Farangai countries"?

    If they do fund them, where will they get the money from?

    c: Will they close down all the Turkish schools in the country?

    d: Will drawing images in schools be banned as it is "haram" (per traditional schools of jurispudence)?



    4. What will the foreign policy of Afghanistan be?


    a: Will the Taliban government declare allegiance to ISIS as the Caliphate, or will they reject ISIS?

    If they reject ISIS what will they do if ISIS target them e.g. ISIS v Taliban war.

    Just as we see ISIS v Al-Qaeda (Jubhat an-Nusra) war in Syria.



    ISIS map, Afghanistan is included. Will the saviours of Afghanistan, the Taliban accept ISIS overlordship?






    b: What is the Taliban's policy regarding their beloved Pakistan and its mass expulsion of Afghan refugees?



    c: How will they help the 3 million Pashtun refugees (IDPs) in Pakistan?



    Please educate and enlighten us uninformed folk as you are far cleverer and wiser than us.

    It will also be helpful if you could post some websites on the following:

    - Taliban education policy.
    - Taliban health policy.
    - Taliban foreign export policy.
    - Taliban taxation and fiscal policy.
    - Taliban infrastructure policy.
    - Taliban defence policy.
    - Taliban foreign policy.
    - Taliban policy on food hygiene in restaurants.
    - Taliban policy on sanitation.
    - Taliban policy on agriculture e.g. crop cultivation, soil irrigation.
    - Taliban policy on currency issues.
    - Taliban policy on aviation e.g. air lines, air traffic control.






    ....if there are any.
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    [MENTION=8995]DSM0305[/MENTION] [MENTION=17579]Loy Afghanistan[/MENTION] [MENTION=1201]Toramana[/MENTION]


    These are just my set of questions but after - no doubt - they are resolved by the (few, raised and living in the west) Taliban supporters here who after they show us all the glorious future that Afghanistan has under the Taliban and the golden days that Afghans can look forward to in this new Taliban Utopia, can then answer my next set of questions.
    Last edited by Bengal_Tiger; 04-07-2015, 07:56 AM.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Bengal_Tiger View Post
      @DSM0305 @Loy Afghanistan @Toramana @Al-Afghani


      These are just my set of questions but after - no doubt - they are resolved by the (few, raised and living in the west) Taliban supporters here who after they show us all the glorious future that Afghanistan has under the Taliban and the golden days that Afghans can look forward to in this new Taliban Utopia, can then answer my next set of questions.

      "Taliban's", "Mujahedins" and other arab/paki worshipping dogs, are almost out of every high office jobs. If you see today, majority of the one who holds powerful office jobs are guys who worked with President Dr Najib. Even the American dogs understood that after 12 years. all talibs, mujaheddings and other filths they took in power was thieves, murderers and worse animals than the American themselves.

      They got jealous and was like "this can not on go", we should be the major parasites not the paki/arab worshipping apes.
      To Paradise, with Pakhto, I will go.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Bengal_Tiger View Post
        [MENTION=8995]DSM0305[/MENTION] [MENTION=17579]Loy Afghanistan[/MENTION] [MENTION=1201]Toramana[/MENTION]


        These are just my set of questions but after - no doubt - they are resolved by the (few, raised and living in the west) Taliban supporters here who after they show us all the glorious future that Afghanistan has under the Taliban and the golden days that Afghans can look forward to in this new Taliban Utopia, can then answer my next set of questions.
        Wroraka

        I think its more complex. Western or Eastern canards are there to undercut legitimacy of an opponents claims. But the argument is relatively easy to diffuse. For instance, Abdul Salaam Dhaeef, Omar, etc never really left Afghanistan except for periods of time in Afghan refugee camps. Many of their supporters in places like that Hajji Durrani Saib mentioned in the articles I posted are also based in Afghanistan.

        And Ghani, Karzai (Qayum and Hamid and Ahmad Wali), Taj Wardak, Atmar, etc all spent many many years as expats in the West.

        Would we be able to say that the latter group has less legitimacy? That argument is actually advanced far more often by critics of the war and has a much more sound basis than the notion that many unacquainted youth are just naive.

        Futhermore, would we go on to say that a green zone Kabul based PC owning Afghan that has benefited from foreign largess is more validated than the rural class? Is the former out of touch with his people or reality? by extension, that is actually a valid argument as well then.

        Some of it is not even support for Taliban that I see amongst Western raised folks with the mindset that you mention, but rather support a loose network of groups referred to in Western media as "Taliban" that is incohesively doing whatever it can to remove outsider presence from Afghanistan.

        The reason I think that it is more the latter is that pre 2001, the general word on the street in western Pashtun circles (even in the Karzai family) was that the Taliban was comprised of rural fighters who were a mix of mardassah boys and some Helmand based muj groups. Karzai himself had a period of time in which he and his father were meeting regularly with the Kandahari Shura members.

        The other interesting thing is pre 2001, a great many of these people had no qualm criticizing cultural impositions Taliban fused into their views on Islam. This was across the board. It was not uncommon to hear Afghans take note that these guys had done some good things by stabilizing the country side and removing brigands and bandits, but to also hear criticism of their impositions.

        This all changed post 2001 and two groups emerged. One group is Western Afghans who generally ran boutique stores, gas stations, restaurants etc etc but who made a pretty penny creating translation firms out of thin air post 2001. Others got into business with the Pentagon (Rateb Popal) and made millions without benefiting the common rural man much.

        The other group comprised somewhat more conservative traditional rural derived families that may also have not agreed even 60% with the way Taliban practice Islam but view whatever we would call this conglomeration of Pashtun fighters trying to oust an outsider as a legitimate resistance force.

        So for instance, to drive home a comparison - I know some Ukranians married into Pashtuns who are ethnic Russians. I also know some Western raised 1st generation cold war era transplant Russians. The latter, while noting some of the aggressions of the Russian ethnic resistance in Donestk region and other places still understand the roots of the struggle and the reason of their ethnic/social struggle and the most importantly the history crimea holds for their people. The latter talk incessantly about Putin being an autocrat and speak in theoreticals. I wouldn't say that the former group is suddenly "unaware" or "out of touch" with the sentiments of the people of Donetsk just because they live in America... Now the people of donetsk who had a relatively reasonable existance may not be happy that their city is in a state of war and they may want this to end... but even then, that doesnt obligate ethnic Russian Ukranians in the West to forget history and culture and just assume that they should submit to Kiev, right?

        Now I would say that if Pashtuns living anywhere think that somehow Taliban or any of these resistance groups are going to bring perfect Islam into practice that they are also not living in harmony with reality either.

        In Summary, its not so much the Taliban that many, even westerners offer their respect to, but rather the notion, idea, ideology of resistance against an occupying power of any sort.
        "2 crackheads don't become any better or stronger by sharing the same crack pipe." - Greatest PF quote

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        • #5
          Salamoona Barakzai,

          My thoughts.


          1. First of all my apologies to you for only reading this thread just now as believe it or not I have been busy (despite my seeming high level of activity on the forum, I prioritize what I do).


          2. Thank you for taking the time out and writing this (btw the thread was primarily addressed to some fanboys, who by the way haven't even turned up on this thread and responded to the points I made) and I appreciate it. I also respect the civility that you have displayed me, which stands in stark contrast to certain individuals (they know who they are and they have produced "revulsion" in many on the forum here in terms of their behaviour) around here.


          3. Non-Afghan Muslims and Afghanistan

          I believe we are an ummah and are entitled to speak (within limits which I'll elaborate on point 4) about other Muslim countries.

          So for example all of us are free to speak about the suffering of Muslims in Syria.

          The situation in Iraq.

          The chaos in Yemen.

          Being a Muslim from another country does not mean that we lose the right to express an opinion or show an interest, otherwise what is the difference between those who claim to be adherents of Islam and overt secular nationalists.

          The secular nationalists who are basically saying "get lost, don't speak about my country" are at least not being hypocritical or contradicting their ideology (if that is they don't speak about the country of the person they've told to get lost to).

          However non-Afghan Muslims speaking about Afghanistan has its limits.


          4. Non-Afghan Muslims need to know their limits.

          Just as we in Islam are all brothers and care about the ummah, Islam also says each person has "masooliyah" (responsibility) over certain things, a man over his family, a governor over his province.

          So the concept of Muslim brotherhood and ummah also needs to be balanced by the fact that I cannot go to someone else's house and tell him how to run his family.

          So in practical terms I think we non-Afghan Muslims should be able to express our views on Afghanistan providing some of these things.


          i: We are acutely aware of our ignorance, and that some of us may have not been to Afghanistan, know about Afghan culture, cannot speak Dari/Pashto and should never think we are experts.

          ii: We are not directly impacted by what goes on there, even those Afghans based in the west are affected as they have family.


          So we need to display our utmost respect and a certain degree of humility whilst talking about Afghanistan/Pakhtunkhwa in a Pakhtun forum.

          On the plus side I know many Afghans will be happy that at least someone in the ummah does care about them and that sympathy is not only reserved for Arab Muslims in the middle east who are somehow "more Muslim" than Afghans.


          5. So I have just laid out some of the groundrules that I feel that I have to observe whilst discussing Afghanistan and I don't mean to offend anyone.



          6. I read your post and I am familiar with such views and if I am wrong or misunderstood I will try to paraphrase what you have said:


          a: The situation is complicated and there are some Afghans who benefit from the foreign "occupation"/presence there.

          b: There are others (perhaps the majority) who cannot be neatly labelled under the somewhat dehumanizing tag of "Taliban" (a term which now due to the western media conjures up image of someone evil) but are normal Muslim Afghans with conservative values who are opposed to what they believe is a foreign occupation (just to add to that, yes there have been NATO atrocities in Afghanistan).

          Now as I said I am not, never have claimed to be and most likely never will be an expert on Afghanistan.

          I am in no position (morally or factually) to decide how many Afghans dislike the Kabul government or how legitimate the armed struggle against them is.


          However fundamentally what I am asking is the following....which I will allocate a separate post for...


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          • #6
            What policies will the "resistance" implement?


            Now leaving aside the legitimacy of the Kabul government (regardless of whether every Afghan loves them and considers them angels descended from the 7 heavens, or sons of Beelzebub himself) let's say the "resistance" (I am putting it in speech marks as I know not everyone considers them that) takes power of Afghanistan...


            ..what happens?


            1. I believe that Islamically speaking "Power" is an "Amanah" (trust - translating this for the many passive readers of all nationalities on this forum) from Allah.

            The early pious Muslims did not like the concept of having power and shuddered at its heavy responsibility.

            So if the resistance have Islamic principles they would realize that they have an "amanah" to the Afghan people.



            2. When fulfilling an important amana one must do his best.

            So if the resistance gain power of Afghanistan then according to their own beliefs (and ultimately mine as a fellow Muslim) they have been entrusted by Allah to govern Afghanistan and to make the lives of Afghans better.



            3. So in the process of fulfilling this important Amanah would it not necessitate having a plan? A set of policies on how Afghanistan will be governed so let us say if tomorrow (or slightly less absurd, less month, or the next 3 months) the "resistance" took power in Kabul they would know exactly what their vision for governing the country is?


            This is my question really.

            This was a challenge to two fanboys in particular who like to call people names but who (unlike yourself) lack the depth to understand the true nature of the sitatuion.


            Now these guys (who have remained unnamed) have not even bothered turning up on this thread.

            I thought to myself, will they bother responding? Probably (I was wrong).

            Will they respond on topic? Probably not, just ad hominem insults.

            ....


            However after what I had anticipated their response in the form of insults my next planned step was this.


            A: To talk about the last Taliban period in power - which I know very little about.


            B: To talk about the JUI-F manifesto.

            The JUI-F or Jamaat Ulema Islami (Fazlur wing) is considered by some to be the nearest thing to a political wing of the TTP and is generally considered pro-Taliban.



            Fazlur Rahman.


            The JUI-F actually has some experience of power and ruled half of Pakistan (two western provinces, KPK and Balochistan) for around half a decade.

            They were in a coalition of other "Islamist" parties called the MMA.

            I was going to check their website and see what their manifesto and policies are.

            However I will leave this to those who are opposed to the Kabul government.

            I will let them go to the JUI-F website and see what their policies are and then respond.

            If however they haven't done so within the next week (won't be surprised if they don't) then I myself will go to the JUI-F website and check out their policies on governance.


            However my question in this thread is once again, regardless of how good/bad the KG (Kabul government) or its opponents are, how will the "resistance" govern Afghanistan?

            What is their programme for job creation, hospitals, schools, foreign policy etc?


            Now if anyone thinks I am being facetious here, in 1979 the Ayatollahs took power in neighbouring Iran and they have run a country which has made substantial impressive achievements (I despise the Iranian regime which is a hybrid Persian-fascist + Neo-Safawi junta) which cannot be denied.



            Khomenei takes power in Iran in 1979.



            Indigenously made Iranian Khodro car.


            So to conclude, what are the "Taliban" or "resistance"'s policies for Afghanistan?
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            • #7
              Now just to make it clear to everyone before they get the wrong end of the stick.

              My cousin is a Deobandi Maulana and this is precisely (knowing them well) why I would oppose any strict Deobandi rule in any Muslim country be it Bangladesh or elsewhere, so I wouldn't support the old-school Taliban v.1 (version 1) of the 1990s running Afghanistan. Anyway it's primarily an internal decision for Afghans and the new generation of Taliban leaders seem to be somewhat more flexible, and anyway as Barakzai has said the armed opposition to the Kabul government and NATO are a heterogenous group consisting of different types of Pashtuns with traditional and conservative beliefs.

              My point in showing the Khomenei image and then a modern car is not to link a fundamentalist like Khomenei with technological progress but to show that the Shiite clerics of Iran do run a modern nation state (no matter how much we disagree with them) and run different government ministries, but to be honest do the Taliban even have a manifesto or set of policies for when they (in their eyes) "liberate" Afghanistan?

              What about the Hezb i Islami of Gulbudin Hekmatyar, does he have a manifesto?
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              • #8
                When I started this thread I had two Taliban supporters in mind whom I did not mention but whom I will now. I have them on ignore but can read their comments when quoted by others.

                I was expecting them to write on this thread, but not an on-topic response to the question but usual personal insults and ad hominem attacks.

                They haven't even posted on this thread to say what their beloved Taliban are going to do if they ever ruled Afghanistan again.

                I might as well name them.


                [MENTION=1547]khushal[/MENTION]
                [MENTION=18674]Insight[/MENTION]


                I don't plan to read what they write and nor am I really interested. I am doing it for the benefit of the readers (mainly over 1,000 silent readers which includes politicians and journalists) of the largest and most active Pashtun forum in the world.

                I think Pashtuns have a right to know what policies the "saviours" of Afghanistan i.e. the Taliban are going to implement over 30 million Afghans.

                So to the two named Taliban-supporters above, take it away guys, extoll the many "benefits" of Taliban rule and their policies on:

                - Education
                - Health
                - Economy: a. Infrastructure b. attracting investment c. manufacturing d. export/import e. taxes etc.
                - Foreign policy
                - Womens rights
                - Defence
                - Sport
                - Agriculture

                As an organization seeking to rule 30 million Afghans I am sure your beloved Taliban have carefully formulated plans and policies to rule Afghanistan.

                So to the two Taliban supporters, fire away, tell us all of what the Taliban are going to do if they ever rule Afghanistan.



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                • #9
                  Another Taliban supporter, Shamlawar Khurasani is on my ignore.

                  However I hope he can also answer the questions raised in this thread on how his Taliban heroes will rule Afghanistan.

                  [MENTION=5381]Shamlawar Khurasani[/MENTION]



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                  • #10
                    Taliban have no policies to rule and govern Afghanistan. Neither do they ever claimed they have. If they have claimed they can manage the affairs of the country better than anyone else please quote their own publications.

                    as far as I know, and I realm do know quite allot about this without bragging, Taliban don't consider themselves as a political party or any other sort of entity able to solve all of afghanistan's problems. They explicitly said they are a group which emerged out of necessity. The absence of better options forced them to join forces and act. This is why their government which only lasted 5 years was a failure.

                    however compared to previous forms of government in Afghanistan they were by far the most just rulers.

                    even today if Taliban stop fighting, the war won't end. Because people in Afghanistan don't want this current regime. However, lets hypothetically assume this regime and its backers loose and run away. Taliban won't be able to assume power and govern Afghanistan in the best possible way.

                    it is therefore up to afghans to find out what they need to do to solve Afghanistan's political, social and economical problems.

                    Taliban won't exist for ever. They emerged as a movement out of necessity. Likewise they will vanish from political field when the circumstances change and militancy is no longer a solution for afghans.
                    Originally posted by Firdousi
                    Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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                    • #11
                      I am quite amused how Bengoli pussycat continues to pretend he doesn't read the posts of those who's views he doesn't tolerate.
                      Originally posted by Firdousi
                      Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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                      • #12
                        Bengali ....if I recall correctly, you were also a Taliban supporter.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Bengal_Tiger View Post
                          What policies will the "resistance" implement?


                          Now leaving aside the legitimacy of the Kabul government (regardless of whether every Afghan loves them and considers them angels descended from the 7 heavens, or sons of Beelzebub himself) let's say the "resistance" (I am putting it in speech marks as I know not everyone considers them that) takes power of Afghanistan...


                          ..what happens?


                          1. I believe that Islamically speaking "Power" is an "Amanah" (trust - translating this for the many passive readers of all nationalities on this forum) from Allah.

                          The early pious Muslims did not like the concept of having power and shuddered at its heavy responsibility.

                          So if the resistance have Islamic principles they would realize that they have an "amanah" to the Afghan people.



                          2. When fulfilling an important amana one must do his best.

                          So if the resistance gain power of Afghanistan then according to their own beliefs (and ultimately mine as a fellow Muslim) they have been entrusted by Allah to govern Afghanistan and to make the lives of Afghans better.



                          3. So in the process of fulfilling this important Amanah would it not necessitate having a plan? A set of policies on how Afghanistan will be governed so let us say if tomorrow (or slightly less absurd, less month, or the next 3 months) the "resistance" took power in Kabul they would know exactly what their vision for governing the country is?


                          This is my question really.

                          This was a challenge to two fanboys in particular who like to call people names but who (unlike yourself) lack the depth to understand the true nature of the sitatuion.


                          Now these guys (who have remained unnamed) have not even bothered turning up on this thread.

                          I thought to myself, will they bother responding? Probably (I was wrong).

                          Will they respond on topic? Probably not, just ad hominem insults.

                          ....


                          However after what I had anticipated their response in the form of insults my next planned step was this.


                          A: To talk about the last Taliban period in power - which I know very little about.


                          B: To talk about the JUI-F manifesto.

                          The JUI-F or Jamaat Ulema Islami (Fazlur wing) is considered by some to be the nearest thing to a political wing of the TTP and is generally considered pro-Taliban.



                          Fazlur Rahman.


                          The JUI-F actually has some experience of power and ruled half of Pakistan (two western provinces, KPK and Balochistan) for around half a decade.

                          They were in a coalition of other "Islamist" parties called the MMA.

                          I was going to check their website and see what their manifesto and policies are.

                          However I will leave this to those who are opposed to the Kabul government.

                          I will let them go to the JUI-F website and see what their policies are and then respond.

                          If however they haven't done so within the next week (won't be surprised if they don't) then I myself will go to the JUI-F website and check out their policies on governance.


                          However my question in this thread is once again, regardless of how good/bad the KG (Kabul government) or its opponents are, how will the "resistance" govern Afghanistan?

                          What is their programme for job creation, hospitals, schools, foreign policy etc?


                          Now if anyone thinks I am being facetious here, in 1979 the Ayatollahs took power in neighbouring Iran and they have run a country which has made substantial impressive achievements (I despise the Iranian regime which is a hybrid Persian-fascist + Neo-Safawi junta) which cannot be denied.



                          Khomenei takes power in Iran in 1979.



                          Indigenously made Iranian Khodro car.


                          So to conclude, what are the "Taliban" or "resistance"'s policies for Afghanistan?
                          JUI is an un-Islamic political party. The reason why it's un-Islamic is because it officially recognizes the Pakistani government and its constitution as legitimate. The leadership of JUI joined the Pakistani parliament. When one becomes a member of the parliament one is forced to plead allegiance to he state of Pakistan and respect and serve its consitution.

                          Since Pakistani constitution and state are un-Islamic, pleading allegiance and swearing to uphold it is an act of apostasy. Therefore, any Mullah, no matter how long his beard is and how big his turban is, if he makes any statement constituting apsotasy, he becomes an apostate just like the secular parties in Pakistan or anywhere else.

                          So if Taliban really turn into an Afghan version of JUI then they will leave the fold of Islam and people who truly understand Islam will disavow them just like they disavowed Hizbe Islami, Jamiate Islami and all other Ikhwani groups in Afghanistan.

                          Basically, there is no such a thing as an "Islamist" political party which is actually Islamic. Most of these "Islamists" are in reality apostates.
                          Originally posted by Firdousi
                          Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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                          • #14
                            I haven't read what Shamlawar Khurasani has written, so not sure if it's on topic or just a personal attack/ridicule.

                            However if he has written on topic explaining what the Taliban's policies for Afghanistan are, then credit where credit's due, he has at least addressed this issue unlike hardcore Taliban supporters, Khushal and Insight, who although they are happy to make fun out of people and insult them are not so keen to explain how their beloved Taliban will actually rule Afghanistan, whilst they enjoy a life of comparative ease in secular capitalist NATO-protected America.

                            By the way if any of the more respected and senior members of this forum such as [MENTION=1201]Toramana[/MENTION] [MENTION=5723]Kushan Prince[/MENTION] think I am being wrong or even just silly by asking Shamlawar Khurasani to share his comments on this topic, and not even reading his response or even replying to it, then I will gladly make an exception and unignore his posts on this thread and if people would like to see my response to him, I can.

                            However my opinions on this topic are secondary as I am not an Afghan and would not be directly impacted by Taliban rule, though I believe that on this discussion forum, the biggest Pashtun forum in the world, Afghans/Pashtuns deserve some sort of information on how their supposed "saviours", the Taliban would govern Afghanistan.

                            Thus the purpose of this thread to elicit information on this issue.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
                              Taliban have no policies to rule and govern Afghanistan. Neither do they ever claimed they have. If they have claimed they can manage the affairs of the country better than anyone else please quote their own publications.

                              as far as I know, and I realm do know quite allot about this without bragging, Taliban don't consider themselves as a political party or any other sort of entity able to solve all of afghanistan's problems. They explicitly said they are a group which emerged out of necessity. The absence of better options forced them to join forces and act. This is why their government which only lasted 5 years was a failure.

                              however compared to previous forms of government in Afghanistan they were by far the most just rulers.

                              even today if Taliban stop fighting, the war won't end. Because people in Afghanistan don't want this current regime. However, lets hypothetically assume this regime and its backers loose and run away. Taliban won't be able to assume power and govern Afghanistan in the best possible way.

                              it is therefore up to afghans to find out what they need to do to solve Afghanistan's political, social and economical problems.

                              Taliban won't exist for ever. They emerged as a movement out of necessity. Likewise they will vanish from political field when the circumstances change and militancy is no longer a solution for afghans.
                              all of this make a good sense until you meet a taliban foot soldier and i am sure you never meet one. i am from the area where haqqani derive a good share of their foot soldier and some middle leadership.our society is very much influenced by them and Afghan taliban which is now decreasing day by day.i can recall two of my childhood friends, both were used in suicide mission in Afghanistan. my second cousin in our family have seven years of experience fighting infidels in Afghanistan.
                              none of them share your narrative, they share the narrative of the likes of Zaid hamid and pakistan establishment. they says they are fighting to bring sharia and to avenge tajik and northern alliance for their crimes against pashtun on daily basis. and then they will start fantasizing taliban rule, peace and prosperity and how much afghan enjoyed previous taliban rule. there is reason my friend taliban are called pakistan proxies although pakistan don't enjoy much influence over them, taliban serve them, their interest coincides.
                              taliban is not a symbol of resistance like west media and pakistani media portray it. taliban shows the greedy and cruel nature of Afghan. they want power. everybody do that.

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