Freemasons Illuminati Roshaniyyah sect in Pakistan

[شمله ور خراساني]

http://www.atimes.net/media/kk5.mov

I wonder if this guy is telling the truth. There is an intersting book about this topic you might want to read:
Secret Societies: Gardiner's Forbidden Knowledge

[MazloomyarMaseed]

The very first illuminati sect was created by a great pashtun called PIR ROSHAN from South Waziirstan and he invented the first secret sect movement against the mughals, if u guys dnt beleive me then, then feel free to google Pir Roshan and you will be amazed.

[شمله ور خراساني]

MakeenMaseed,

illuminati sect was not founded by a Pashtun. They are from Europe. Pir Rokhan was a Sufi heretic.

FreeMasons and Illuminati are kufaar. Pashtuns are predominantly Muslim.

Pir Orkhan was a shameful chapter of our history.

There have been many great people coming from Waziristan like Mullah Pawinda, the leader of the mujahedeen who was feared not just by the British India, but is considered as one of the most terrifying enemies of the entire British Empire. And of course Asmatullah Mashum!

[imb706]

The age of secret societies is over with, so usually when people talk of Freemasons, it's nutjob stuff.

[شمله ور خراساني]

The age of secret societies is over with, so usually when people talk of Freemasons, it's nutjob stuff.

Secret societies do exist. However believing that the world is run by secret societies, is what conspiracy theorists do. That you can call nutjob.

You can visit the Amsterdam Freemason lodge. And see for yourself. A while ago they had a free tour. A friend of mine was there.

Roshaniyyah sect still exists. The Afghan telecommunication network Roshan is owned by the leader of the sect. So is Tolo tv station in Afghanistan.

Pir Rokhan was associated with the Isma'iliyyah sect of Shi'a who are outside the fold of Islam. The Isma'iliyyah were allied with the crusaders and particularly with the Templar Knights. You can look them up in serious academic history libraries.

The reason why Pir Rokhan was a disgrace, is because he became associated with the Isma'iliyyah sect who are outside the fold of Islam. His legacy is the Roshaniyyah sect of spies and servants of The Britih Empire (mahmoud tarzi) and today, the Agha Khan Foundation.

Most of these 'Roshan' people are in the current colonist government in Kabul. They are mainly non-Pashtun people who are against Pashtuns and Pashto language.

[imb706]

The only thing close to secret societies nowadays is college fraternities where guys go to get drunk, hoggle girls and get social badges and connections for their rich families. They're not very secret though.

Amsterdam Freemason

If I can visit it, it's not very secret though XD. And Belgian and Dutch freemasons are not secret societies, they're social clubs. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History...lgium#Post-war Secret societies were a very real thing in American history, we even had political parties whos stances included anti secret society legislation, but they're pretty much gone now. All I could find on that group is some unedited wikipedia article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roshaniya Seems like the typical kool-aid stuff.

[شمله ور خراساني]

The only thing close to secret societies nowadays is college fraternities where guys go to get drunk, hoggle girls and get social badges and connections for their rich families. They're not very secret though. If I can visit it, it's not very secret though XD. And Belgian and Dutch freemasons are not secret societies, they're social clubs. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History...lgium#Post-war Secret societies were a very real thing in American history, we even had political parties whos stances included anti secret society legislation, but they're pretty much gone now. All I could find on that group is some unedited wikipedia article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roshaniya Seems like the typical kool-aid stuff.

Wrong. Secret societies have secret membership. Plus they do not reveal the nature of their organization and what their goals are. A secret society can be harmless, yet people will distrust them because of their secrecy.

The Bilderberg is a good example. They are a group of wealthy investors and politicians. There is nothing they do that is extraordinary. But because of their secrecy, conspiracy theorists accuse them of anything they can think of.

Roshaniyyah is a different case. They usually allied themselves with colonists, invaders and foreign agressors in Afghanistan. That is why they conceal their membership.

[imb706]

Wrong. Secret societies have secret membership.

I'll use the Freemasons as an example: Freemasonry is a fraternal organisation that arose from obscure origins in the late 16th to early 17th century. Freemasonry now exists in various forms all over the world, with a membership estimated at around five million, including just under two million in the United States and around 480,000 in England, Scotland and Ireland.[1][2] The various forms all share moral and metaphysical ideals, which include, in most cases, a constitutional declaration of belief in a Supreme Being.[3] All secret societies were fraternities (thus the only thing close is college fraternities), in fact the KKK started as a fraternity. Secret societies were societies that held secret power over political groups, and nowadays the groups that hold political power are out in the open. Freemasons are just rich people who like hookers and booze.

There is nothing they do that is extraordinary. But because of their secrecy, conspiracy theorists accuse them of anything they can think of.

That's true.

They usually allied themselves with colonists, invaders and foreign agressors in Afghanistan.

Yeah but that reminds me of Latin America. Always the rich sided with colonist. I guess it's just a pattern.

[شمله ور خراساني]

I have a few questions.

what is the purpose of this society.

How is it secret if we know about it.

The purpose is uknown. What we do know is that they are a bunch of filthy rich emperialists.

Membership is a secret. Nobody tells you blatantly they are members. The owner of Kabul Bank is one, I tell you.

[MazloomyarMaseed]

MakeenMaseed,

illuminati sect was not founded by a Pashtun. They are from Europe. Pir Rokhan was a Sufi heretic.

FreeMasons and Illuminati are kufaar. Pashtuns are predominantly Muslim.

Pir Orkhan was a shameful chapter of our history.

There have been many great people coming from Waziristan like Mullah Pawinda, the leader of the mujahedeen who was feared not just by the British India, but is considered as one of the most terrifying enemies of the entire British Empire. And of course Asmatullah Mashum!

Oh god another Cyber Jihadi

So mr Sanger Mujahid....let me educate you one thing

first of all Pir ro khan did alot of Pashtuns and especially in litrature, he died fighting the mughals on the battlefiedl while your Mullah Omar is hiding in Punjab with some **** ISI offficers, Not just this, what is your defiention of a Muajhideen, is it an Afghan who sells his daughter to a Horny Arab fighter so he can have status?

Also its amazing how you play mr moral police when you know nothing about such historical pashtun figures, i understand you have been arabised to such levels whereby you insult gr8 pashtuns such as khushal khan khattak but praise jihadi kwanees who sell out their culture and land for a few ropeees from ISI.

Also Mr Sanger, tell me one thing that your Mujahideen have done for Pashtuns eh????

Also asmtullah Mashoom is another one of those jihadi cyborgs, singing about blowing upr self up and getting girls in heaven doesnt seem very normal nor benefiticial for Pashtuns as a whole.

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makeen saab

The point is. it does not matter how many battle one fights. If your beliefs are kufr then whatever you do is in vain. Bayazid ansari (pir rokhan) was not even part of the islamic way of life. being pashtun does not make you a muslim or a janati. Akhudn derwaiza declared him to be a zindiq.

there is even doubts whether this pir tarikai was masid. some say he was urmari nd eastern tajik.

Allah knows, but we know he was not a muslim so he was not special. being muslim makes you special, not pashtun.

and calling people cyber jihadi lol what are you? a cyber hot head?

and last i checked, it is masids who are causing chaos in pakistan. Making fun of our brother mullah omar is a very dishonorable act of yours. he is a well known champion from the jihad against the russians and is respected still standing up against 37 countries in afghanistan.

[MazloomyarMaseed]

makeen saab

The point is. it does not matter how many battle one fights. If your beliefs are kufr then whatever you do is in vain. Bayazid ansari (pir rokhan) was not even part of the islamic way of life. being pashtun does not make you a muslim or a janati. Akhudn derwaiza declared him to be a zindiq.

there is even doubts whether this pir tarikai was masid. some say he was urmari nd eastern tajik.

Allah knows, but we know he was not a muslim so he was not special. being muslim makes you special, not pashtun.

and calling people cyber jihadi lol what are you? a cyber hot head?

and last i checked, it is masids who are causing chaos in pakistan. Making fun of our brother mullah omar is a very dishonorable act of yours. he is a well known champion from the jihad against the russians and is respected still standing up against 37 countries in afghanistan.

Well tell me one thing

Where is ISI Col Mullah Omar when Pashtuns are being brutalised in Karachi???

Also why are your leaders all being caught in Pakistan? i through your Jihad is in Afghanistan?

Mullah Omar is not standing against anybody, hes taking orders from ISI

And regards to Masids, they are 10000's times much better than any trash coming from your country, Atleast we have honour and die to protect ourselves while you kwanees will sell your mother to get a piece of land in Dubai from an Arab, Mullah Omar is a clear coward, a little ISI Jasus, speebachay! little coward, hiding under Pakistan protection, look at mullah baradar, ISI knew all along where he is, Look at the pakistani captain caught in Afghanistan on a suicide mission, it all adds up, Taliban does not represent Pashtuns, Taliban represent nothing but their retarded brains and greed for power for which Pakistan is their main interest bidder.

Also you like to insult historical figures especially pir roshan, but praise little cowards who hide in Punjab such as Mullah Omar, tell me, can mullah omar fight on the battlefied? where he is eh????

[Khushal Khan Khattak]

The purpose is uknown. What we do know is that they are a bunch of filthy rich emperialists.

Membership is a secret. Nobody tells you blatantly they are members. The owner of Kabul Bank is one, I tell you.

Sangar, as usual you are acting a bit too intense.

like........

The owner of Kabul Bank is one, I tell you.

like seriously! Dah!

look, you want a real face?

Think about Zalmay Khalilzad.

Now thats someone no one can deny and yet you wont find any proof for it either.

[شمله ور خراساني]

Zalmay Khalilzad is one. True. His wife the Benard person, she wrote the blue-print of how Afghanistan can be transformed to a climate more profitable for America. I have that document somwhere. I will post it soon.

Sangar, as usual you are acting a bit too intense.

like........



like seriously! Dah!

look, you want a real face?

Think about Zalmay Khalilzad.

Now thats someone no one can deny and yet you wont find any proof for it either.

[MazloomyarMaseed]

Zalmay Khalilzad is one. True. His wife the Benard person, she wrote the blue-print of how Afghanistan can be transformed to a climate more profitable for America. I have that document somwhere. I will post it soon.

What about bin ladens son who married a British Jew in europe? would you class him as a freemason?