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    Sound's great... I am willing to see them learning Pakhto in schools there!
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  • #2
    Learning Pakhtu is just a dream they said it two years ago and we haven't seen a single Pakhtu Book for kids in school!!

    Let's see
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    • #3
      lol Pashto book in Pakistan.
      I believe its the Pakhtunkhwa goverment fault that we are not learning anything about our Culture, History and langauge..Pakhtunkhwa goverment need to rise up and damand for it.

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      • #4
        Pashto books has always been there but the fact is that we the pakistanized pakhtuns didn't bother to learn or read it.....urdu au arabi dey khuday lareeee....
        Out of 24 Districts of Pakhtunkhwa only 9 has demanded Pashto book for the academic year 2009-10.....oss qasur da chaa sho???

        Na soz sho na saaz sho,
        Bas hasy jwand tamam sho

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Yousafzai Pakhtun View Post
          Pashto books has always been there but the fact is that we the pakistanized pakhtuns didn't bother to learn or read it.....urdu au arabi dey khuday lareeee....
          Out of 24 Districts of Pakhtunkhwa only 9 has demanded Pashto book for the academic year 2009-10.....oss qasur da chaa sho???
          I learned to read pashto at home from my uncle in two sessions. Since writing and reading urdu is mandatory, switching to pashto was a breeze,

          I regret not learning persian from my uncle who was fluent and enjoyed persian poetry.

          As far as school is concerned, the one I went to, did not allow many pashtoons let alone teach pashto.

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          • #6
            Many Pakistani Pashtuns don't care .. Exactly khorai so it's the problem of the Pakistani Pashtun not the fault of anybody else
            yao warokay ghwandi baagh ao pa khwa ye seen rawan!

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Shehbaz Khan View Post
              Many Pakistani Pashtuns don't care .. Exactly khorai so it's the problem of the Pakistani Pashtun not the fault of anybody else
              This is a shame isn't it? We shouldn't conclude this with a smiley face at all. This is a moment of sadness that we ourselves don't care about the promotion of Pashto. I had met the Turkish Ambassador to the UN just the other day and he himself gave me advice that I will keep with myself forever. He said "If your people yourself don't promote your language, don't expect other ethnic groups or governments to assist you with the promotion and preservation of your culture and language, each country has its own goals." This is true isn't it? Turkey wants to spread Turkish just as much as Iranians want to spread Persian. Sounds sad right? By the way wrora, this whole Pakistani Pashtun and Afghan Pashtun sounds horrific. We are the same people. It almost reminds me of East and West Germany.
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              • #8
                خبرو له خو ټول تغړه دي او د شرم خبره دلته دا
                چه مينه د پښتو سره دا يا ستاسو تنقيد سره دا
                دلته صرف يو ۳ کسان پښتو کښ ليکل کوي او نور ټول د آمريکے ژبه کښ ليکي
                دغه ځاي نه ستاسو د ايمان پته لګي چه څومره تغړه يي د پښتو خورولو له

                د نړئ په خبرونو کښ صرف او صرف په پاکستان خبرونه
                ولے دا نور ملکونه نشته دا چه تاسو صرف پختونخوا او پاکستان کښ آړم يي
                ۀر سړے راځي او د شرم خبره کوي
                خو ګريبان کښ نه ګوري چه آيا ځه پښتو له څومره اهميت ورکووم
                بله دا چه څوک خو يي په لوستو شرميګي
                داسے پوسټونه هم شته چه دا يو فيشن ګنړي چه پښتو نه ليکلے شي او نه لولولے شي
                دلته کومو له شرم پکار دا اوس


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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Baygham View Post
                  I learned to read pashto at home from my uncle in two sessions. Since writing and reading urdu is mandatory, switching to pashto was a breeze,

                  I regret not learning persian from my uncle who was fluent and enjoyed persian poetry.

                  As far as school is concerned, the one I went to, did not allow many pashtoons let alone teach pashto.
                  Ours double fined pashto...gotta love beaconhouse lolzz

                  Anyways I don't really see the point in co-ed, as the primary purpose should be educating them and considering our conservative society some might be hesitant.
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                  • #10
                    Its a shame. Not to be able to learn your own language in your own land.

                    Though I dont want to make any judgments on the status of regional languages in Pakistan, can a Pakistani here tell me whats the status of Balochi and Sindhi? Are they taught in schools and colleges? Are there advanced courses in literature and grammar in these and other local languages? Depends a lot if these languages have their own script of course.

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                    • #11
                      The problem is with they govt of KPK .. They should come forward and make Pakhtu a compulsory subject.. And I mean Compulsory .. Unlike sindhi in sindh ..It is there in as a subject but you can drop it and than you have to read 'urdu ikhtiari' .. So we need to make pakhtu compulsory as a subject and that will solve our problem .. Whether the govt schools or the private sector all should teach pakhtu .. serious steps need to be taken on this issue


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                      pa mehfil ki da yarano da khanda shi
                      da tareekh na sabit shaway haqeeqat day
                      khpala jaba che sok pregdi hagha fanaa shi !!
                      yao warokay ghwandi baagh ao pa khwa ye seen rawan!

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                      • #12
                        ^is this a new thing that balochistan schools have balochi as a language taught in school? i have lived there for 10 years and i have gone to their private and public/government school. there was not a single book in balochi... when did you see this?

                        the reason why balochs feel opresses is because of this... their language, their heritage, and their history is made fun of by ordinary panjabis.

                        I am really interested to know when all of this started that their language was added?

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                        • #13
                          I think this editorial may be relevant here

                          Editorial: Imposing Arabic language on Baloch children

                          Posted on Jun 22nd, 2010

                          With a longstanding demand of Baloch and Pashtun nationalists over the past many years in Balochistan concerning the introduction of mother tongues (Balochi, Pashtu and Bravi) as the medium of instruction at the educational institutions, the government of Balochistan stunned everyone on Friday with its ridiculous decision to introduce Arabic language from class one to class tenth all over the province.

                          Balochistan is the only province in the country where a Baloch child cannot read or write Balochi because (s)he is not taught Balochi at school level either as a medium of instruction or a language. Same is the case of the Pashtun children or the Bravi speaker Balochs who are denied the opportunity to learn their mother tongues at school level. This is the government-backed cultural genocide of different nationalities living in Balochistan, to say the least.

                          Over the years, the society in Balochistan has been silently questioning the logic behind the forceful imposition of Urdu, which is the mother tongue of barely 1% of the total population of the province, as a medium of instruction. The Balochs and Pashtuns have always seen this with resentment as Urdu was taught to them on gunpoint at the cost of surrendering their own mother tongues. Likewise, they would not complain so passionately if some room was left for their mother tongues at the schools. What is most disturbing is the fact that currently Balochi or Pashtu are not taught at any level inside the schools of Balochistan. On the top of it, Arabic was forcefully imposed on the students during General Zia-ul-Haq’s process of Islamization inside the educational institutions. Children were forced to learn an extra language, along with Urdu and English, at middle level starting from class six up till eight. That was three-year unnecessary learning of Arabic which has now been extend to ten years of learning.

                          Chief Minister Nawab Mohammad Aslam Raisani’s most surprising decision since assuming the office comes in the wake of a boycott call given by the Baloch Students’ Organization (BSO-Azad) of Pakistan Studies text books. Hundreds of text books of Pakistan Studies were torched all over Balochistan the other day by the activists of the organization. The BSO and Baloch intellectuals maintain that the Pakistan Studies subject does not utter a single word about Baloch history and historic figures. The text books taught at schools and colleges glorify wars, invasions and conversions. They forcefully impose an Islamic and Pakistani identity on the students and keep them in complete darkness about their own history, culture and heroes. The history taught at schools seems more like a script of a play which very tactically excludes diversity, secularism and multiculturalism.

                          The text books taught at schools make kids believe that their history begins with the arrival of Arab invader (whom the books identify as a great Muslim conqueror) Mohammad bin Qasim in 712 AD in Sindh. Before his arrival, the indoctrination goes on, there was darkness, ignorance and no civilization. In the words of Hussain Haqqani, Pakistani ambassador to the United States, this is the Nasim Ejazi (an Urdu novelist who glorifies Muslim invasions and ridicules non-Muslims) interpretation of history.

                          BSO’s rebellion against the text books is an extraordinary development in the history of nationalistic politics in Pakistan. Baloch students have done what Sindhi and Pashtun nationalists have not been able to do over the years in spite of living under a similar distortion of their history and civilization. This clearly manifests the very high level of political consciousness that exists among the Balochs. The BSO revolt is in fact the outburst of anger and dissatisfaction of the past six decades. The Baloch kids have always wondered why they were not introduced with their own heroes like Chakar Khan Rind, Gul Khan Naseer, Syed Zahoor Shah Hashmi or Atta Shahd. The Pak Studies books hardly mention a sentence about Mir Yousaf Aziz Magsi, Mir Abdul Aziz Kurd, Mir Ghose Baksh Bizeno, Prince Abdul Karim or any other Baloch leader. It is this reason that they have finally and angrily decided to boycott the Pakistan Studies text books.

                          Amid the BSO boycott, the decision to impose Arabic language at all schools and colleges needs to be reviewed. How could a handful of politicians take such a decision within a few minutes without holding broad-based consultation with educationists, intellectuals and scholars of Balochistan? This is clearly a politically motivated decision of the government of Balochistan to please some Arab sheikdoms. Learning Arabic language in the contemporary world is totally meaningless for the Baloch kids or the children of any other non-Arab nation. Arabic does not hold any significance in today’s world where English-speaking countries like the US dominate all technological advancements. While teaching English at primary level makes sense, Arabic even does not merit a second thought as a more pressing issue right now is the induction of mother tongues at schools and colleges.

                          Every time one questions the significance of learning Arabic, we are told by the supporters of the language that it will help us in the Life Hereafter!

                          The Baloch Students Organization, the Balochi Academy, the Bravi Academy and the Pashtu Academy and all nationalist parties should take immediate notice of the government decision and protest against it as stridently as possible. Indigenous cultures should not be blackmailed on the name of religion. Learning Arabic does not in any way translate into making people better Muslims. A Baloch or a Pashutun will remain a “good Muslim” even without obtaining a degree in Arabic. The official decision that paves the way for Arab cultural imperialism on Baloch and Pashtun society should be resisted tooth and nail until the government of Balochistan withdraws its decision. In addition, concerted efforts should be made by the local populations to force the government to introduce mother tongues at schools. Otherwise, these local languages will perish in the fast changing world.
                          Source: Editorial: Imposing Arabic language on Baloch children | The Baloch Hal

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                          • #14
                            The secular government of KhyberPakhtunkhwa promotes coeducation because the ANP and similar parties are a bunch of perverts and degenerates who do not care about the progress and well being of the people.

                            They want to secularize Pashtun society and they oppose Pashtun social codes and ethics.


                            Girls 'do better in single-sex schools'

                            Girls achieve better exam results when they are taught in single-sex schools, research has shown.




                            By Graeme Paton and Matthew Moore
                            Published: 7:00AM GMT 18 Mar 2009
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                            Pupils of all abilities are more likely to succeed if they go to single-sex state schools Photo: GETTY


                            Analysis of Key Stage 2 and GCSE scores of more than 700,000 girls has revealed that those in all-female comprehensives make better progress than those who attend mixed secondaries.

                            The largest improvements came among those who did badly at primary school, although pupils of all abilities are more likely to succeed if they go to single-sex state schools, the study indicates.



                            The research by the Good Schools Guide confirms previous claims that girls benefit from being educated away from boys.
                            A Government-backed review in 2007 recommended that the sexes should be taught differently to maximise results, amid fears that girls tend to be pushed aside in mixed-sex classrooms.
                            That followed an Israeli study which suggested that when there is a big proportion of boys in a class, both boys and girls do worse academically. Results improved as the percentage of girls in a class increased.
                            Groups like the Girls' School Association and the Girls' Day School Trust have long claimed that they offer a better education for their pupils, but the number of state schools where boys or girls are educated separately has declined from 2,500 in the 1960s to about 400 today.
                            The latest research compared the results of 71,286 pupils at all-girl comprehensives to those of 647,691 girls at co-educational comprehensives.
                            It came as a rift developed last night over the use of elite A-level grades, with leading universities lining up to reject the new A*.
                            Oxford, Warwick and the London School of Economics were among 13 universities confirming they would not favour students applying after being awarded an A* in exams.
                            It comes despite moves by others – including Cambridge, Bristol, Imperial College London and University College London – to accept the new top grade.
                            Experts warned that the indecision risked causing chaos and confusion for thousands of teenagers.
                            The A* is being introduced for sixth-formers sitting final exams in 2010. Earlier this week, Cambridge confirmed most students would need at least one A* to get a place on undergraduate degrees.
                            Yesterday, The Daily Telegraph surveyed other top universities to find out how many would follow.
                            Bristol said admissions tutors would be free to consider the A* grade to select students. Imperial said it would be used for seven of its most prestigious subjects and UCL confirmed it would be used to dictate entry to a small number of courses.
                            But others insisted A* students would not be favoured until 2011 or 2012 at the earliest.
                            This includes Oxford, LSC, Liverpool, Durham, Newcastle, Edinburgh, Cardiff, London University's Queen Mary College, Warwick, York, Sheffield, Nottingham and Leeds.
                            Girls 'do better in single-sex schools' - Telegraph
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by drona View Post
                              I think this editorial may be relevant here


                              Source: Editorial: Imposing Arabic language on Baloch children | The Baloch Hal

                              Comments below the article are interesting ...

                              Regards,
                              Drona
                              Thank you soooooooooo much!... really!

                              i thought so... I have lived there about half my life and i know how they are discriminated against. i went to their government and private school for 10 years in Balochistan... no sign of balochi or brahvi or pashto could be seen anywhere in the school. students were actually discouraged to speak in their OWN language with each other. most of them were taught to speak urdu...

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