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  • #31
    Originally posted by Talal View Post
    nowhere in the entire video can you see anything that pins all of this in the army, do you see any badges ? Any info on the regiment ? No you don't

    There have been numerous reports of extrajudicial killings by the army but none were ever verified even by independent sources. For all we know this could have easily been shot somewhere in Kashmir ..Oh my bad Kashmir that's a forbidden word right ? What's the latest score 109 ? And what's the overall like 50000 ?

    And have you all met these 'kids' to know that they're innocent ? Usually everyone here is harping on about how they wish they could kill the talib barbarians ..well that fairy tale depiction of Taliban being a bearded monster isn't all true, they're biggest weapon are these 'kids'

    And drona the word is "Pakistan" not "P0rnistan" .. remember that
    Buddy journalists can barely report in swat, FATA there is a media blackout. How and who will verify against the army? Do you know the extent to the military's hand in Pakistan? I assume you have never really lived in Pakistan, because if you did you would know this.

    It doesn't matter if they are innocent, since they have to be tried in a court. The army has not imposed martial law in malakand division, so what right do they have of judge jury and executioner? Oh and btw if we are going to do a moral one upping then Pakistan army has a worse rep than even private mercenaries, they raped their own citizens and killed intellectuals in massive numbers. Even thugs and degenerate drug dealers here get a trial, and army there decided to play judge, jury and executioner. Like I told someone else. now I know where talibs in swat got these tactics from, it is from their one time Godfathers Pak army and intel. In swat, actually they have had human rights abuses reported, but obviously how can you fully verify it in an area were average people have to go through multiple posts. You shouldn't be so naiive.
    http://i29.tinypic.com/2a6j8jm.gif

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    • #32
      No wonder Allah swt does not show himself to the disbelieving world to prove His existance... for a disbeliever will always be a disbeliever... even if he sees ALlah swt with his own eyes on this earth, he will still disbelieve!

      if this does not open your eyes... then you are sleeping a sleep of death and u can never wake up from that.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by BLS_1919v2.0 View Post
        Buddy journalists can barely report in swat, FATA there is a media blackout. How and who will verify against the army? Do you know the extent to the military's hand in Pakistan? I assume you have never really lived in Pakistan, because if you did you would know this.

        It doesn't matter if they are innocent, since they have to be tried in a court. The army has not imposed martial law in malakand division, so what right do they have of judge jury and executioner? Oh and btw if we are going to do a moral one upping then Pakistan army has a worse rep than even private mercenaries, they raped their own citizens and killed intellectuals in massive numbers. Even thugs and degenerate drug dealers here get a trial, and army there decided to play judge, jury and executioner. Like I told someone else. now I know where talibs in swat got these tactics from, it is from their one time Godfathers Pak army and intel. In swat, actually they have had human rights abuses reported, but obviously how can you fully verify it in an area were average people have to go through multiple posts. You shouldn't be so naiive.
        Look man I know where your coming from and arguing about this is the last thing I wanna do, this is a sad video and your right about the court of law but this is a war my friend..look at guantanamo, look at what's going in Afghanistan the soldiers who went on a killing spree..All I want to say is try and understand the context too, this video is meant to infuriate but really what exactly is in this video that pins it on the army ? And above all extrajudicial killings aren't carried out in public where every one can see them..there's a lot more to all of this and Pakistani media has never shied away from reporting all this but your right reporters aren't allowed as far out as in FATA but really there is nothing solid in this video linking it to the Army..These kind of videos can easily be Circulated on Internet and especially when you don't even have to show the boys getting shot

        But I do understand everyone's feelings including the dude who is calling me 'dalal' but really no one has a frikin clue about who these boys actually were ..had they been Taliban shot by the Afghans I am sure everyone here would be throwing a party but they weren't arrested by the ANA, it was the Pakistani Army and therein lies the proof of their innocence
        It's enough that I know, Our time had a home, In your heart..Was a place..But the glass always breaks..

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Talal View Post
          Look man I know where your coming from and arguing about this is the last thing I wanna do, this is a sad video and your right about the court of law but this is a war my friend..look at guantanamo, look at what's going in Afghanistan the soldiers who went on a killing spree..All I want to say is try and understand the context too, this video is meant to infuriate but really what exactly is in this video that pins it on the army ? And above all extrajudicial killings aren't carried out in public where every one can see them..there's a lot more to all of this and Pakistani media has never shied away from reporting all this but your right reporters aren't allowed as far out as in FATA but really there is nothing solid in this video linking it to the Army..These kind of videos can easily be Circulated on Internet and especially when you don't even have to show the boys getting shot

          But I do understand everyone's feelings including the dude who is calling me 'dalal' but really no one has a frikin clue about who these boys actually were ..had they been Taliban shot by the Afghans I am sure everyone here would be throwing a party but they weren't arrested by the ANA, it was the Pakistani Army and therein lies the proof of their innocence
          Well Talal those things don't justify themselves. Just because Guantanamo is there or US is doing renditions doesn't make them legal. We can't make parallels like this, it doesn't really set any precedent. In terms of whether or not they were army...then if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, then it is a duck. For the most part, it would surprise us if it wasn't the army (considering their recent and past history).
          http://i29.tinypic.com/2a6j8jm.gif

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          • #35
            khudai di zmog mal shi

            why is this not on news
            Last edited by abubaker; 09-24-2010, 03:21 PM.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Feroza_Banu View Post
              let me guess... because we don't follow Ghulam Mirza?
              You have too much hatred in your heart. Get over yourself. Being conceited will not help your cause. Step down from your pedestal. If not for all of our sake, at least for you own sake.

              There is a reason why Pashtun are suffering. They will continue to suffer because we have people like yourself. Your pride is misplaced and your Islamic knowledge is next to none.

              Do you think that the Pashtun are suffering for no reason? Does Allah not have to power to help us overcome these problems?

              Now stop living this fantasy that you know it all, Feroza Banu, and that your "education" gives you the right to express your opinion, as the final say, on every topic, as if your were completely educated in every subject.

              If you don't have something positive to say then why do you foul the air with your bad breath.

              Whether you like it or not I am a Pashtun, an Ahmadi Pashtun. If you want freedom and peace in Pashtunistan then start treating its people with love and care, and stop looking down on your people, you ignorant and conceited girl.

              Now do you get my point why the Pashtun are suffering? It is people like yourself. Until you don't start "really" believing in God and practicing what you preach, then never expect the Pashtun to overcome these miseries.
              Last edited by MeemWawMeemNoon; 09-24-2010, 03:30 PM.
              Islam will prevail, a promise made by the Creator of this universe:

              [61:8] They desire to extinguish the light of Allah with the breath of their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hate it.

              [61:9] He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religions, even if those who associate partners with God hate it.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Feroza_Banu View Post
                No wonder Allah swt does not show himself to the disbelieving world to prove His existance... for a disbeliever will always be a disbeliever... even if he sees ALlah swt with his own eyes on this earth, he will still disbelieve!

                if this does not open your eyes... then you are sleeping a sleep of death and u can never wake up from that.
                The irony in your two posts. You are a living contradiction. Period.
                Islam will prevail, a promise made by the Creator of this universe:

                [61:8] They desire to extinguish the light of Allah with the breath of their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hate it.

                [61:9] He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religions, even if those who associate partners with God hate it.

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                • #38
                  damn it video has been removed from youtube

                  does any one have an alternative link

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                  • #39
                    why does d soldiers do that !!!
                    what was the reason ???
                    i saw the video and don't understand the f langueg urdu
                    why they do that !!!
                    there was lil kid
                    that's mean with out mercy
                    then i will pray for god to another flood in pakistan in panjap,urdu places
                    and should thank god for the flood
                    (btw i just don't wanna see any pakistani in my way because if he say any thing or look on my eye's i swer i will f him with out mercy )

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by abubaker View Post
                      damn it video has been removed from youtube

                      does any one have an alternative link
                      Main hoon na


                      click here



                      Last edited by Guest; 09-24-2010, 05:07 PM.

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                      • #41
                        I swear, I cannot watch it all the way through. I've downloaded the 3GP. I'm going to put it on my phone, ask my friend to watch it and then delete it.

                        I cannot, for the life of me watch it all the way through.

                        Swat Qurban. I'm very upset at this video.

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                        • #42
                          any 1 live in pakistan can make pashtun Ring to f soldier and any pakistani .
                          it's will be great to hear that .
                          im not jokeing i just wanna Revenge to afg first and to pashtun bloods

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by BLS_1919v2.0 View Post
                            Buddy journalists can barely report in swat, FATA there is a media blackout. How and who will verify against the army? Do you know the extent to the military's hand in Pakistan? I assume you have never really lived in Pakistan, because if you did you would know this.

                            It doesn't matter if they are innocent, since they have to be tried in a court. The army has not imposed martial law in malakand division, so what right do they have of judge jury and executioner? Oh and btw if we are going to do a moral one upping then Pakistan army has a worse rep than even private mercenaries, they raped their own citizens and killed intellectuals in massive numbers. Even thugs and degenerate drug dealers here get a trial, and army there decided to play judge, jury and executioner. Like I told someone else. now I know where talibs in swat got these tactics from, it is from their one time Godfathers Pak army and intel. In swat, actually they have had human rights abuses reported, but obviously how can you fully verify it in an area were average people have to go through multiple posts. You shouldn't be so naiive.
                            Just like this was filmed in kashmir also, right?





                            Quit your weaseling you little ISI jasoos mouthpiece!!

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                            • #44
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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Talal View Post
                                nowhere in the entire video can you see anything that pins all of this in the army, do you see any badges ? Any info on the regiment ? No you don't

                                There have been numerous reports of extrajudicial killings by the army but none were ever verified even by independent sources. For all we know this could have easily been shot somewhere in Kashmir ..Oh my bad Kashmir that's a forbidden word right ? What's the latest score 109 ? And what's the overall like 50000 ?

                                And have you all met these 'kids' to know that they're innocent ? Usually everyone here is harping on about how they wish they could kill the talib barbarians ..well that fairy tale depiction of Taliban being a bearded monster isn't all true, they're biggest weapon are these 'kids'

                                And drona the word is "Pakistan" not "P0rnistan" .. remember that
                                Just like this was filmed in kashmir also, right?





                                Quit your weaseling you little ISI jasoos mouthpiece!!

                                P.s. Lets shoot all your male family member <18 just incase they turn into talibs.

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