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    Afghanistan's dirty little secret

    Joel Brinkley
    Sunday, August 29, 2010



    Western forces fighting in southern Afghanistan had a problem. Too often, soldiers on patrol passed an older man walking hand-in-hand with a pretty young boy. Their behavior suggested he was not the boy's father. Then, British soldiers found that young Afghan men were actually trying to "touch and fondle them," military investigator AnnaMaria Cardinalli told me. "The soldiers didn't understand."

    All of this was so disconcerting that the Defense Department hired Cardinalli, a social scientist, to examine this mystery. Her report, "Pashtun Sexuality," startled not even one Afghan. But Western forces were shocked - and repulsed.
    For centuries, Afghan men have taken boys, roughly 9 to 15 years old, as lovers. Some research suggests that half the Pashtun tribal members in Kandahar and other southern towns are bacha baz, the term for an older man with a boy lover. Literally it means "boy player." The men like to boast about it.
    "Having a boy has become a custom for us," Enayatullah, a 42-year-old in Baghlan province, told a Reuters reporter. "Whoever wants to show off should have a boy."
    Baghlan province is in the northeast, but Afghans say pedophilia is most prevalent among Pashtun men in the south. The Pashtun are Afghanistan's most important tribe. For centuries, the nation's leaders have been Pashtun.
    President Hamid Karzai is Pashtun, from a village near Kandahar, and he has six brothers. So the natural question arises: Has anyone in the Karzai family been bacha baz? Two Afghans with close connections to the Karzai family told me they know that at least one family member and perhaps two were bacha baz. Afraid of retribution, both declined to be identified and would not be more specific for publication.
    As for Karzai, an American who worked in and around his palace in an official capacity for many months told me that homosexual behavior "was rampant" among "soldiers and guys on the security detail. They talked about boys all the time."
    He added, "I didn't see Karzai with anyone. He was in his palace most of the time." He, too, declined to be identified.
    In Kandahar, population about 500,000, and other towns, dance parties are a popular, often weekly, pastime. Young boys dress up as girls, wearing makeup and bells on their feet, and dance for a dozen or more leering middle-aged men who throw money at them and then take them home. A recent State Department report called "dancing boys" a "widespread, culturally sanctioned form of male rape."
    So, why are American and NATO forces fighting and dying to defend tens of thousands of proud pedophiles, certainly more per capita than any other place on Earth? And how did Afghanistan become the pedophilia capital of Asia?
    Sociologists and anthropologists say the problem results from perverse interpretation of Islamic law. Women are simply unapproachable. Afghan men cannot talk to an unrelated woman until after proposing marriage. Before then, they can't even look at a woman, except perhaps her feet. Otherwise she is covered, head to ankle.
    "How can you fall in love if you can't see her face," 29-year-old Mohammed Daud told reporters. "We can see the boys, so we can tell which are beautiful."
    Even after marriage, many men keep their boys, suggesting a loveless life at home. A favored Afghan expression goes: "Women are for children, boys are for pleasure." Fundamentalist imams, exaggerating a biblical passage on menstruation, teach that women are "unclean" and therefore distasteful. One married man even asked Cardinalli's team "how his wife could become pregnant," her report said. When that was explained, he "reacted with disgust" and asked, "How could one feel desire to be with a woman, who God has made unclean?"
    That helps explain why women are hidden away - and stoned to death if they are perceived to have misbehaved. Islamic law also forbids homosexuality. But the pedophiles explain that away. It's not homosexuality, they aver, because they aren't in love with their boys.
    Addressing the loathsome mistreatment of Afghan women remains a primary goal for coalition governments, as it should be.
    But what about the boys, thousands upon thousands of little boys who are victims of serial rape over many years, destroying their lives - and Afghan society.
    "There's no issue more horrifying and more deserving of our attention than this," Cardinalli said. "I'm continually haunted by what I saw."
    As one boy, in tow of a man he called "my lord," told the Reuters reporter: "Once I grow up, I will be an owner, and I will have my own boys."
    © 2010 Joel Brinkley

    Joel Brinkley is a professor of journalism at Stanford University and is a former Pulitzer Prize-winning foreign correspondent for the New York Times. Contact The Chronicle via our online form: sfgate.com/chronicle/submissions/#1.
    Afghanistan's dirty little secret
    This article appeared on page E - 8 of the San Francisco Chronicle
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    Note that this article appeared where?
    Where there would be the most interested audience: San Francisco.
    Unfortunately, the audience would be interested in the wrong way.

    I'm sure this will be the major topic of discussion for all those perverts over there.

    I think there was a documentary on this in Australia which was not able to be viewed in America. But the article made up for that.

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    • #3
      There was a documentary aired in America too a few months back if I am not mistaken...

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Iqra View Post
        There was a documentary aired in America too a few months back if I am not mistaken...
        the documentary was about northern afghanistan. what this report is saying that contrary to what other journalists have rep[orted in the past, the centre of sodomy is not in the north, buit in the south.
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        • #5
          ^ on channel 4.......there was a documentary about bacha bazi......it was called the dancing boys of afghanistan

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by شمله ور خراساني View Post
                  the documentary was about northern afghanistan. what this report is saying that contrary to what other journalists have rep[orted in the past, the centre of sodomy is not in the north, buit in the south.
                  Honestly I didn't watch that documentary, nor do I plan on....I might have clicked play for less than a minute, but I doubt that too. I didn't read, nor do I plan on reading the article too.

                  Behkhi der mih baad orsakha razi o khwa mih orsakha garzi, khuday tala dih thola orsakha wasatih dah dagha o nooru zulmo sakha, Ameen.

                  Originally posted by eyeliner View Post
                  ^ on channel 4.......there was a documentary about bacha bazi......it was called the dancing boys of afghanistan
                  yup.

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                  • #10
                    There's a thread with a discussion on this topic, was posted months ago.

                    The progamme was aired in Britain on More4, so it wasn't terrestrial or main TV.

                    I saw the documentary.. I couldn't sleep and it made me sick to the stomach. It heavily hijacked my mind. It's not for the emotionally weak, it is very disturbing, and absolutely outrageous. It also angered me a great deal, I've never wanted to throttle anyone so bad.
                    Last edited by Guest; 08-30-2010, 06:52 PM. Reason: *a

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                    • #11
                      In forensic ward some 5 year old boy came and his cheeks were bitten and he was abused through his back-side....some teenage boy in his village had abused the 5 year old when he was out of his playing outside...
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                      • #12
                        A guy told me people are so desperate in villages that they are into beastiality where you bang up some animal
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                        • #13
                          ^tobah, with animals. astaghfirullah

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                          • #14
                            Yea this is so disgusting, the society over there has become so degraded i wonder how much lower it can go. There is a saying that silence is consent! So even if there are good people in those societies, the fact that such disgusting people exist such as bacha baaz and people doing it wid animals and homos, they will be cursed and the land they live on as well
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                            • #15
                              ^ true. but who on eart came up with silence is consent?

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