da tharikh yaw ahhm wakht -> Objectives of the muslim league at the inaugural meeting

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Daltha zanrae pakhtaana dder khushaalee saraa muslim league ao mutaliye Pakistan zindabad kaee..daa da Mulim league awal objectives wo:

1906

1906 - 30 December. The concluding day of the 20th session of the All-India Mohammedan Educational Conference (AIMEC) in Dacca. After the Session was over, the delegates reassembled in the pandal to discuss the formation of a political organization of Muslims.

On Nawab Salimullah Bahadur of Dacca’s proposal Nawab Viqarul Mulk, Maulvi Mushtaq Hussain Bahadur, was elected chairman, and on Nawab Salimullah’s proposal, again, it was decided to form a political organization, called the All India Muslim League (AIML), with the following aims and objects:

i). To promote among the Musalmans of India feelings of loyalty to the British Government and to remove any misconception that may arise as to the intention of government with regard to any of its measures;

ii). To protect and advance the political rights and interests of the Musalmans of India and to respectfully represent their needs and aspirations; and

iii). To protect among the Musalmans of India of any feeling of hostility towards other communities without prejudice to the other aforementioned objects of the League.

A Provisional Committee was formed with Nawab Viqarul Mulk and Nawab Mohsinul Mulk as Joint Secretaries, to frame the Constitution of the AIML within four months.

Pakistan: The role of religion in political evolution
B. M. Chengappa

[Talal]

Oh yeah this is international news, only if it was 1906

Buddy this stuff is in "mutaliya-e-Pakistan", we are taught all of this..Im sorry cheap shots like this will achieve you nothing, it only shows your grasping at straws now

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^^credere you don't understand pashto so I don't know where you came up with your conclusion. You are desperate. I wrote that there are pashtuns who go gung ho about mutaliya e pakistan...and how it was so islamic. The reality is that the party that they so love (the pathans that is) don't know or acknowledge that Muslim league from its inception wished to foster loyalty towards Britain. That is loyalty to the colonialists that have taken over their land. No dignity, no honour, they were boot lickers of Britain.

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^^credere you don't understand pashto so I don't know where you came up with your conclusion. You are desperate. I wrote that there are pashtuns who go gung ho about mutaliya e pakistan...and how it was so islamic. The reality is that the party that they so love (the pathans that is) don't know or acknowledge that Muslim league from its inception wished to foster loyalty towards Britain. That is loyalty to the colonialists that have taken over their land. No dignity, no honour, they were boot lickers of Britain.

And if you had read that book you would know that the basic purpose of ML was to give a platform to the muslims to get their voice heard and to bridge the gap between the ruling British and the muslims are your frikin dumb ?

When did Quaid join ML ? WHEN did it become the voice of revolution ? When British failed to deliver the rights of Muslims and guess who was licking congress boots then ?

Your a creature of habit BLS, when you see a belt you cant help but hit below it

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And if you had read that book you would know that the basic purpose of ML was to give a platform to the muslims to get their voice heard and to bridge the gap between the ruling British and the muslims are your frikin dumb ?

When did Quaid join ML ? WHEN did it become the voice of revolution ? When British failed to deliver the rights of Muslims and guess who was licking congress boots then ?

Your a creature of habit BLS, when you see a belt you cant help but hit below it

How is this below the belt? We were always taught baniya hindus vs flaana flaana muslims in school in peshawar. What I posted is a historical fact...some pashtuns like to believe in myths how the creation was islamic, and how the muslim league represented muslims. The reality is that if any pashtuns read this and knew about it fully, no way they would support it. Why are you so protective of a party whose objective was loyalty to their colonial masters? How can you defend such a stand?

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How is this below the belt? We were always taught baniya hindus vs flaana flaana muslims in school in peshawar. What I posted is a historical fact...some pashtuns like to believe in myths how the creation was islamic, and how the muslim league represented muslims. The reality is that if any pashtuns read this and knew about it fully, no way they would support it. Why are you so protective of a party whose objective was loyalty to their colonial masters? How can you defend such a stand?

Do you even realise how you sound like ? your trying to compare the muslim league which was nothing but a puppet party in the beginning to the party that single handedly sketched out the nation of Pakistan for millions of muslim of the sub-continent ? your calling all those people who died for this nation your calling them frikin butt lickers ?! Who was the Butt licker here the muslim league who went head to head with the british and congress or the "respected" leaders of yours who were with congress and then switched over to Pakistan .. get outta here

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Do you even realise how you sound like ? your trying to compare the muslim league which was nothing but a puppet party in the beginning to the party that single handedly sketched out the nation of Pakistan for millions of muslim of the sub-continent ? your calling all those people who died for this nation your calling them frikin butt lickers ?! Who was the Butt licker here the muslim league who went head to head with the british and congress or the "respected" leaders of yours who were with congress and then switched over to Pakistan .. get outta here

Credere stop being childish. Muslim league put this on their mandate...don't blame me for that. BTW Khudai Khidmathgars gave much more sacrifices than muslim league. NWFP had more agitations against britain than the Subcontinent. So don't waste my time with your useless rhetoric. On top of that, which one of these major muslim leaguers suffered jail or torture at the hands of Britain? Why did Muslim league side with britain in the second world war...were they not supportive of Britain then? Those people who died, died not for the creation of pakistan, but after the creation. This was during the migration, where millions of muslims, hindus and sikhs suffered. That is a shared sacrifice by these three groups, don't make it a muslim league thing. Now when you come with something plausible then we can talk, as of now you are just jumping around.

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Credere stop being childish. Muslim league put this on their mandate...don't blame me for that. BTW Khudai Khidmathgars gave much more sacrifices than muslim league. NWFP had more agitations against britain than the Subcontinent. So don't waste my time with your useless rhetoric. On top of that, which one of these major muslim leaguers suffered jail or torture at the hands of Britain? Why did Muslim league side with britain in the second world war...were they not supportive of Britain then? Those people who died, died not for the creation of pakistan, but after the creation. This was during the migration, where millions of muslims, hindus and sikhs suffered. That is a shared sacrifice by these three groups, don't make it a muslim league thing. Now when you come with something plausible then we can talk, as of now you are just jumping around.

yeah just.. i dont even wana write what i have in my mind but just stop it dude. Your argument is pathetic and you keept repeating the same thing over and over again when I have told you that the Muslim league in '06 was a different ML and had a different mandate. If you honestly believe anything otherwise then you definitely need to read up on your history

Here frikin wikipedia knows more than you do

Early years

Sir Aga Khan was appointed the first Honorary President of the Muslim League. The headquarters were established at Lucknow. There were also six vice-presidents, a secretary and two joint secretaries initially appointed for a three-years term, proportionately from different provinces.[2] The principles of the League were espoused in the "Green Book," which included the organisation's constitution, written by Maulana Mohammad Ali. Its goals at this stage did not include establishing an independent Muslim state, but rather concentrated on protecting Muslim liberties and rights, promoting understanding between the Muslim community and other Indians, educating the Muslim and Indian community at large on the actions of the government, and discouraging violence.
The search for a solution

Jinnah became disillusioned with politics after the failure of his attempt to form a Hindu-Muslim alliance, and he spent most of the 1920s in Britain. The leadership of the League was taken over by Sir Muhammad Iqbal, who in 1930 first put forward the demand for a separate Muslim state in India. The "Two-Nation Theory," the belief that Hindus and Muslims were two different nations who could not live in one country, gained popularity among Muslims. The two-state solution was rejected by the Congress leaders, who favoured a united India based on composite national identity. Iqbal's policy of uniting the North-West Frontier Province, Baluchistan, Punjab, and Sindh into a new Muslim majority state united the many factions of the League.
The League, however, rejected the proposal that the committee returned (called the Nehru Report), arguing that it gave too little representation (one quarter) to Muslims, established Devanagari as the official language of the colony, and demanded that India turn into a de facto unitary state, with residuary powers resting at the center – the League had demanded at least one-third representation in the legislature and sizeable autonomy for the Muslim provinces. Jinnah reported a "parting of the ways" after his requests for minor amendments to the proposal were denied outright, and relations between the Congress and the League began to sour.

So your saying all those people didnt die for Pakistan ? Bravo... Just dont reply to my posts from here on and go join ahmednijad he also thinks that the holocaust was fake you two would get along well.

Muslims sided with Britain in WW2 because of turkey and because of that to this day the relations between the two nations are more strong than any other

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yeah just.. i dont even wana write what i have in my mind but just stop it dude. Your argument is pathetic and you keept repeating the same thing over and over again when I have told you that the Muslim league in '06 was a different ML and had a different mandate. If you honestly believe anything otherwise then you definitely need to read up on your history

Here frikin wikipedia knows more than you do



So your saying all those people didnt die for Pakistan ? Bravo... Just dont reply to my posts from here on and go join ahmednijad he also thinks that the holocaust was fake you two would get along well.

Muslims sided with Britain in WW2 because of turkey and because of that to this day the relations between the two nations are more strong than any other

First of all, Agha Khan was an ismaili and by orthodox sunni view Ismailis are outside the folds of islam. Second of all, you call my views pathetic doesn't change a damn thing the reality of what happened. The people who died, died during the migration. There was no war of independence for pakistan or india. In those communal strifes muslims and hindus as well sikhs died. Now stop with your nonsense.
lollll because of Turkey. Why is that? Turkey was not an axis or allied power. They were neutral until the very end of the war. Hahahaa and I am one with crazy theories. Good job buddy.

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About Iqbal, funny you mention the guy, because here is his statement in a letter after that so called endorsement of a pakistani state:

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs406.snc3/24577_367195741263_514561263_4807555_2072403_n.jpg

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^ just shut it seriously cuz i dont have any interest in sitting here and schooling you. Your actually killing off my brain cells. Your views wont change because for that you need a brain something im sure you lost somewhere during your childhood. As for tirkey go look it up why ML joined brits.

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there is no mention of Turkey as being the sole motivation of joining world war 2. This is highly unlikely since Turkey was neutral in this war until the very end. Ismet Inonu used this late entrance as a way to enter the UN. Read the clip I posted it is Iqbal's reply to the so called address of a new muslim state.

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^ I have nothing to say first you said turkey had nothing to do with and now your admitting it.. well atleast something good came from today.

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No I didn't say that. Learn to read. I know its not your strong point. Turkey was neutral until the very end. Inonu used that to his advantage to gain a seat in the UN. This was at the complete end of the war. Muslim league joined the war effort before that. How in the world are reconciling these two things? This is common sense.

[Talal]

^ Dont worry you read in a litleee bit more you'll know what im talkin about