Why isn't anyone helping Pakistan?

[BehavedMaseed]

What If we get rid of both then we cant play into anybodies hands?

Pashtuns are too much indulged into trying to be like others I e Darizubans and Punjabis Pakistani.

Kind Regards

[Feroza_Banu]

talk about bad image. This is extremely embarassing for pakistan.

some countries/people don't donate thinking its a country that harbors terrorists, and others don't donate because they say its a currupted country and money won't even reach the ones that deserve it.

Let's not forget... pakistan received billions of dollars in aid money for the afghan refugees during and after soviet war and only a fraction of it ever made to afghans living a miserable life in camps.

[BehavedMaseed]

talk about bad image. This is extremely embarassing for pakistan.

some countries/people don't donate thinking its a country that harbors terrorists, and others don't donate because they say its a currupted country and money won't even reach the ones that deserve it.

Let's not forget... pakistan received billions of dollars in aid money for the afghan refugees during and after soviet war and only a fraction of it ever made to afghans living a miserable life in camps.

If Pakistan Harbours Terrorists then What about the Taliban who operate in Afghanistan? Do Pakistanis In Afghanistan Harbour them or not?

Just out of curiousity.

Both Countries use these militants to get one over the other.

Loy Pakhtunkhwa Zindabad

[BehavedMaseed]

As of now the locals have joined the Taliban just to kick out the infidels.

Afghans never harbored terrorists. We never produced terrorism like Pakistan.

Kind Marhabas.

SO under the government of Afghan Taliban Islamic emerite where did Afghans not aware that they were harbouring some of the worlds hardcore Islamists who went into soverign states to do Islamic uprisings?

You and Pakistan are the biggest producers and exporters of Terrorism. As if your local Afghan couldnt raise up against the Taliban right at the start, you guys enjoyed selling your own people to Pakistan to wage jihads in Kashmir, I know people who seen with their own eyes truck loads of Afghans being sent to Kargil to fight against India.

You cant act sneeky and blaime everything on Pakistan and protect Afghanistan. Afghanistan is not innocent,were the Peshawer Seven Pakistani Citizens? or were they Afghans by nationality?

Down with Pakistan and Afghanistan, both false identities to protect a specific class of people.

Kind Regards

[BehavedMaseed]

Why didnt you Afghans raise against the Taliban government in Afghanistan eh? why did you flood into Pakistani Madrassahs to be taught about Jihad????

Even if terrorism was produced in Pakistan, You Afghans went there to establish it in your villages, provinces and cities.

Kind Regards

[Saifullah]

Go and fix waziristan my friend then talk

[IamDZJ]

Because zardari ruined pakistan's image or whatever was left of it. Musharaf is the type of leader that can control our people. Good or bad he would have never abandoned his people. With or with help from others, he could bring pakistan back on its feet in no time.

[BLS_1919v2.0]

Because zardari ruined pakistan's image or whatever was left of it. Musharaf is the type of leader that can control our people. Good or bad he would have never abandoned his people. With or with help from others, he could bring pakistan back on its feet in no time.

DZJ....musharraf and the army was the cause of most of problems. He basically bungled up everything started with the LFO to baloch problem to Pashtunkhwa. Zardari is the punching bag of the new elite. He has ceeded all his powers and is basically serving a symbolic role. So his crime is that of many many many politicians before and after him...corruption. I dont like him nor the state of Pakistan, but we all gotta call a spade a spade.

[IamDZJ]

I will get back to you on that once I figure out what a spade is.

[BLS_1919v2.0]

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[Wrayun]

The image of Pakistan is very negative in the international community. It should be. Almost all extremists are traced back to Pakistan. Corruption is very high, higher than other failed states. It is a nation hijacked by a cartel of army generals and elites. The revelations that the earth quake funds were diverted to other areas (military), and that Pakistan is helping the Taliban according to the WikiLeaks dox made it worst. The negative image of Pakistan has been long in the works, but recently it has reached peeking levels. Some of the comments and remarks left on the flood victims news reporting by foreigners are insane. The people of Pakistan doesn't deserve this treatment. They are the first victims of the Pakistani state and should be helped.

[Michin Khel]

If natural disaster of such scale also come in afghanistan then it will also recieve less aid just like pakistan.

[Shayesta]

because Pakistan got 30 millions pashtuns, thats why Afghans feel sorry for them.

Then who are those Tajiks, Uzbeks and Hazaras feeling sorry for? Kashmiris?

SO under the government of Afghan Taliban Islamic emerite where did Afghans not aware that they were harbouring some of the worlds hardcore Islamists who went into soverign states to do Islamic uprisings?

Was Pakhtunkhwa aware of it when they newly let Taliban in (take Swat as example) but then cried their hearts out for 'support' of the army?

You and Pakistan are the biggest producers and exporters of Terrorism.

Exporters of terrorism? Tell me, where exactly did Afghanistan export terrorism to? And I will answer which countries suffer from Pakistani terrorism.

As if your local Afghan couldnt raise up against the Taliban right at the start,

What do you think the Northerners were doing all those while? Performing Attan with them? In fact, when did the local Waziris stand up against Taliban from not only Afghanistan and Pakistan, but also from Uzbekistan and Tajikistan? Remember?

you guys enjoyed selling your own people to Pakistan to wage jihads in Kashmir, I know people who seen with their own eyes truck loads of Afghans being sent to Kargil to fight against India.

My my, you have seen a lot with your eyes going on haven't you? How come you never gathered the guts to speak up against it before advising anyone else to?

You cant act sneeky and blaime everything on Pakistan and protect Afghanistan.

We are not blaming everything on Pakistan, it's you who is saving Pakistan from every accusation.

Afghanistan is not innocent,were the Peshawer Seven Pakistani Citizens? or were they Afghans by nationality?

Since they were raised (and some even born) in Pakistan, what nationality could they possibly have? And even then, who gave those terrorists shelter, training, food, and encouragement to fight against Afghanistan? Yup, you got it!

[BehavedMaseed]

Then who are those Tajiks, Uzbeks and Hazaras feeling sorry for? Kashmiris?


Was Pakhtunkhwa aware of it when they newly let Taliban in (take Swat as example) but then cried their hearts out for 'support' of the army?


Exporters of terrorism? Tell me, where exactly did Afghanistan export terrorism to? And I will answer which countries suffer from Pakistani terrorism.


What do you think the Northerners were doing all those while? Performing Attan with them? In fact, when did the local Waziris stand up against Taliban from not only Afghanistan and Pakistan, but also from Uzbekistan and Tajikistan? Remember?


My my, you have seen a lot with your eyes going on haven't you? How come you never gathered the guts to speak up against it before advising anyone else to?


We are not blaming everything on Pakistan, it's you who is saving Pakistan from every accusation.


Since they were raised (and some even born) in Pakistan, what nationality could they possibly have? And even then, who gave those terrorists shelter, training, food, and encouragement to fight against Afghanistan? Yup, you got it!

The Peshawer Seven were not born in Pakistan and their supporters all came from Afghanistan and they were born in Afghanistan. How can you not blaime Afghanistan for anything? When they hung Najibullah, were all those spectators holding Pakistani ID cards? when the taliban came to power, were all those on the street and living under them Pakistani Identity card holders? Yes Taliban movement stated from Darol Islami Haqqani which official is located in Pakistan but didnt they have a section dedicated for Afghan Nationals there to be taught Islamic Jihad? Why did the Parents of those Afghans send their children there to be taught to serve ISi Pakistani Interests? Did the Taliban force those Afghans to join them? Of course not, Afghans choose to destroy their country and now they suffer because of it, they listened to foreigners and Paksitan ISI and CIA and now they suffer because of it.

I am saving nobody from any accusation. I hate Pakistan and Afghanistan. They have sold out Pashtuns many times for which causes my dislike to both.

I Want a separate state for solely Pashtuns and no more excuses about loving punjabis,tajiks,hazaras, uzbeks and all that other Non sense.

[Shayesta]

The Peshawer Seven were not born in Pakistan and their supporters all came from Afghanistan and they were born in Afghanistan.

Really? If all their supporters came from Afghanistan, then why did Pakistan invest the most in them?

How can you not blaime Afghanistan for anything?

How can you sweet-talk the blames on Pakistan? Now don't say you don't!

When they hung Najibullah, were all those spectators holding Pakistani ID cards?

I won't lie and say I saw them 'with my own eyes' having Pakistani ID cards. But for the truth to be told, huge number of Urdu speakers entered Afghanistan along with Taliban and this is something people in Jalalabad especially had noticed.

when the taliban came to power, were all those on the street and living under them Pakistani Identity card holders?

Why would Pakistanis live under an barbaric, illiterate and rubbish government like those of Taliban?; They made others do that for them instead. I thought this much you might understand.......?

Yes Taliban movement stated from Darol Islami Haqqani which official is located in Pakistan but didnt they have a section dedicated for Afghan Nationals there to be taught Islamic Jihad?

And now the question is, why did Pakistan open such an ill location? If Afghan nationals go to India and ask them to open an Jihadic-location for them you seriously think India will? Even Iran wouldn't!

Why did the Parents of those Afghans send their children there to be taught to serve ISi Pakistani Interests?

How do you know whether their parents encouraged them or not? How do know whether majority had parents or not?

Did the Taliban force those Afghans to join them?

LOL, majority of Taliban were a bunch of orphans and illiterates who had been perfectly well brainwashed in the name of Islam; Doesn't this remind you of patriotic Pakistani Pukhtoons?

Of course not, Afghans choose to destroy their country and now they suffer because of it, they listened to foreigners and Paksitan ISI and CIA and now they suffer because of it.

And nor am I gonna deny that we very well have been in service of the foreigners, no wonder benefit has been taken from it! But if now I am gonna accept all the blame anyway and say it's not Pakistan's fault, will Pakistan stop it's ill wishes to towards Afghanistan? Yeah, in your dream they might.

I am saving nobody from any accusation.

Is it? Is it that way that through out this discussion not even once you blamed Pakistan for it's interference?

I hate Pakistan and Afghanistan.

And what do you hate Pakistan for? For their treatment with Waziris? Exactly same is my opinion, except for I don't hate the entire nation. You in your land have become compelled to hate the country you live/lived in, but don't expect the same from it's neighbors?

They have sold out Pashtuns many times for which causes my dislike to both.

How exactly has Pakistan 'sold' Pukhtoons? Aren't Pukhtoons themselves in love with Pakistan?