Saudi Arabia urged not to paralyze man as retribution punishment

[Dust]

But the man did not die. Where did you get the idea that he died?

[Millatpal Noorzai]

But the man did not die. Where did you get the idea that he died?

From your argument of Second degree murder or manslaughter.
How would you charge a someone with a second degree murder if the victims is all well and living?

[Dust]

His intention was not to kill but he severely stabbed that led to death, the judge is not seeking a capital punishment but disability which is not death, equivalent to the 2nd degree murder/manslaughter part of your argument.

Why are you twisting your statement? This is what you said. You were clearly referring to the case.

[Millatpal Noorzai]

A secular society offers 2nd Degree murder or even Manslaughter.

Read your post and see if i am twisting the facts and why would i need to flip when it is a clear case of prosecution and persecution?

[Dust]

You earlier said that when someone murders, they should not be given a second chance. I brought the issue of intention.

With respect to this case, the victim was not murdered. Secondly, the victim was part of the fight. Thirdly, what good is it for the society to paralyze him? Has past retributions brought any good for the Kingdom? It is a corrupt society.

You are not looking at this case with a sound mind, you are too emotional based on your beliefs. You got to step out of yourself for a moment and ponder the repercussions this might have on the society at large.

[Millatpal Noorzai]

My post to Amna was irrelevant,it was just an explanation of "second chance".

'You are not looking at this case with a sound mind, you are too emotional based on your beliefs. You got to step out of yourself for a moment and ponder the repercussions this might have on the society at large.'

Am i the emotional one here?

[Dust]

When I said emotional, I referring to your conclusions being based on your religion and not comment sense.

Your post to amna is very relevant to the overall discussion. Very relevant.

In the secular world, murder is judge based on intention. Not the actual deed. Further, one must look at this situation and ponder why would we want to have two paralyzed people which will drain resources and make the lives of many others miserable.

I feel bad that one had to be paralyzed. I am pretty sure that his loved ones are suffering because he now needs special care. Why would we want this to happen to another family. These types of revenge taking are very archaic.

The man who was paralyzed should take his revenge by going to different parts of the Kingdom to promote: Stop to violence. He should voice his experience. It will help a lot of people in turn.

[Dust]

The question here is that if they are going to paralyze the poor offender, then they have to make sure that the degree of punishment does not exceed what he did to the other. The suffering has to be equal. Otherwise, it is injustice.