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**Millatpal Noorzai** · 08-17-2010, 05:21 PM

I will post lists for neighboring provinces,once i get em.

**Millatpal Noorzai** · 08-17-2010, 08:11 PM

Noorzais Ishaqzais,Achakzais and Alizais were and are mostly killed due to their affiliation with resistance,whereas Barakzai,Popalzai and Alkozai are struggling and snapping for power in this government.

Its just how i think,could be different but the point is who is killing them?
If it were to be a specific tribe or two for their affiliation with opponents,its understandable but here each and every tribe is targeted in a similar scale.

**Millatpal Noorzai** · 08-17-2010, 08:19 PM

Originally posted by shlombay

Noorzai,

Obviously Ahmad Wali Karzai is killing them. I have many personal stories that I dont feel like sharing. But there I told you. The Don of the South kills them. He even kidnapped one of our relatives who was a tribal elder cause he spoke against the cruelty and tyranny of the Kharzais.

Shlmobay Jana Ahmed Wali Karzai is a chicken in front of all these prominent tribal elders,he can NOT kill hundreds of tribal elders Kandahar wide and still be alive himself.
Why would Ahmed Wali kill his own Popalzais are his in-laws Noorzais some of who are his best allies?
There is a third power that is killing them systemically.

**ComradePashtun** · 08-17-2010, 09:11 PM

I agree with Norzai saib. Who else could it be we all know it: TALIBAN and Pakistan.

**ComradePashtun** · 08-17-2010, 09:13 PM

Same thing happened and is happening in Waziristan and Helmand and other Taliban infested areas too.

**Admin Khan** · 08-17-2010, 09:16 PM

Originally posted by Millatpal Noorzai View Post

Shlmobay Jana Ahmed Wali Karzai is a chicken in front of all these prominent tribal elders,he can NOT kill hundreds of tribal elders Kandahar wide and still be alive himself.
Why would Ahmed Wali kill his own Popalzais are his in-laws Noorzais some of who are his best allies?
There is a third power that is killing them systemically.

As much as I agree that there is a 3rd power involved you should also be very-well aware of the atrocities committed by him amongst the local Kandaharis. Der bayghuna khalag mra swala, Just like in the soviet-era. During the soviet era anonymous people killed my grandfather along with thousands of others in the city of Kandahar. Oh and for no reason. Ask yourself why? So Kandaharis can lack wisdom and power of thought. Che Masharan na wey no kasharan ba sa cheghey wa wahey? My grandfather was shot dead in his own house and he had no political affiliation. The first thing intelligence agencies want is the awakened ones to disappear. Kandahar city lost many of its real inhabitants. My father said he could barely recognize anyone in the city, it was all new people who had recently immigrated to Kandahar. All of its senior elders where either shot dead or they moved to the west or better yet Pakistan.

Noorzaya, Kandahar ta yaw zang chair ka and ask the locals about him. He is indeed a 'don'.

**Iqra** · 08-17-2010, 09:48 PM

I am not naming any names. Khuday dih muzh ta dah dey gunnahwih na rakawih ....

but sometimes people hire other people, or use other relatives ...or maybe they're all in on it together... and the dirty work is done. And as far as in kandahar, even relatives have killed each other based on struggles from the past or now. Truly, truly, sad when a young one in this world suffers because of masharan who can't get their act together.

And Admin khan, you're right. Many of our grandfathers were killed for no reason at all. Khuday tala dih dey garda wabakhshi o zmuzh familuna ta dih sabr o khair o ewazzuna warkih InshaAllah.

**Millatpal Noorzai** · 08-17-2010, 11:50 PM

Originally posted by Admin Khan View Post

As much as I agree that there is a 3rd power involved you should also be very-well aware of the atrocities committed by him amongst the local Kandaharis. Der bayghuna khalag mra swala, Just like in the soviet-era. During the soviet era anonymous people killed my grandfather along with thousands of others in the city of Kandahar. Oh and for no reason. Ask yourself why? So Kandaharis can lack wisdom and power of thought. Che Masharan na wey no kasharan ba sa cheghey wa wahey? My grandfather was shot dead in his own house and he had no political affiliation. The first thing intelligence agencies want is the awakened ones to disappear. Kandahar city lost many of its real inhabitants. My father said he could barely recognize anyone in the city, it was all new people who had recently immigrated to Kandahar. All of its senior elders where either shot dead or they moved to the west or better yet Pakistan.

Noorzaya, Kandahar ta yaw zang chair ka and ask the locals about him. He is indeed a 'don'.

I know this guy personally and have known him for the past 15 years when we kids used to call him "CHAPPAK=Crossed eyes" and based on that familiarity i can say he does NOT have the potential to kill hundreds of tribal elders.
I do agree that there atrocities taken out by him or by his dictation but can't be on such larger scale.

**Admin Khan** · 08-17-2010, 11:54 PM

Originally posted by Millatpal Noorzai View Post

I know this guy personally and have known him for the past 15 years when we kids used to call him "CHAPPAK=Crossed eyes" and based on that familiarity i can say he does NOT have the potential to kill hundreds of tribal elders.
I do agree that there atrocities taken out by him or by his dictation but can't be on such larger scale.

Wrora, his relatives are someone who pretty much all Kandaharis from the city are in touch with. I feel like saying a few things in regards to further prove my point but I don't feel comfortable enough.

However, He does not have to kill anyone the point I am making is he can hire people and kill all those people who might potentially cause harm to him. It has happened already, like I said yaw zanj chair ka oh poshtana wakah che sar rakam hai da khalgo sakha pa zor bandey minzakey akhestaley jhey.

**Iqra** · 08-18-2010, 01:55 AM

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

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List of hundreds of tribal elders killed at Kandahar in the past nine years

List of hundreds of tribal elders killed at Kandahar in the past nine years

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