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  • #16
    Originally posted by Swat
    Exactly. The USA controls 99percent of the world Media. What you watch in Australia has to go through the approval of New York. And the worlds largest stock exchange with is the NEW YORK stock exchange.

    Media is about brainwashing and money.
    Indeed, they don't want to make their masters mad.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by gulalai View Post
      Why not to protest more constructively by embracing science and technology, personal freedom and basic human rights, sustainable development and equity?
      Not just us, but the entire humanity is indebted to Jews for the intellectual services that they have rendered to the mankind.
      Boycotting Jewish products is tantamount to going back to stone age. At least, I want to live in the post post-modern space age given to me by the most intelligent form of modern humans--JEWS.
      Excellent post.

      Here's what I have to say about the pictures:

      The conquerors gloat as they will and the vanquished weep as they must.

      On one hand, these people reject science and reason and want to go back to 7th century Arabia and on the other hand, they cry about being humiliated by Jews and 'Crusaders'. Here's some halal food for thought - you can't have a 7th century outlook on life and expect to overcome Western political and economic domination of your people!

      Accept science, build a society based on reason, spend time and resources on scientific, economic and human R&D (Research and Development) instead of funding and giving time to 'scholars' who'd tell you whether you should step inside a mosque with your right or left foot, accept and spread the knowledge that the West has been accumulating for the last 500 years, implement that knowledge, 50% of your populations (women) are not being utilized - change that, encourage honesty, end corruption, etc, etc....

      Coming towards us, when Bachaa Khan was alive, the mullahs and their supporters cursed and condemned him. Had we listen to him then, we wouldn't be miserable. Now we see Punjabis and Europeans ravaging our homeland and trampling over our pride, dignity and honor. We deserve every bit of it.
      "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be".

      "Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives".

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      • #18
        The power and influence of the Mullah only came when General Zia came into Power. Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto played with fire when he left his socialistic ideals and choose to please the radical Islamists. General Zia islamised every bit of our society and gave clerics and clergy the power to decide our fates.

        No one is asking us to leave our faith but our faith must not detemine our governmental and policial policies. Our rational thoughts and progressive forward thinking should assist us on determing the betterment of our live and social structure.

        Kind Regards

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        • #19
          you know that famous saying about love and war? "everything is fair in love and war"...? do you think muslim's of palestine fight with magical skills that doesn't harm any one else? they don't kill innocent civilians?
          war is not fun. if you want to promote boycotting that, you have a point.
          but if you choose to take part in one then declare yourself. go fight where battles are meant to be fought... as for boycott this and boycott that, stop bsing. don't force **** on us. don't decide for us who we should think is evil or not.

          I am no bird, and no nest ensnares me.

          non commercial would cost less if he was in charge himself which he plans on doing. right now it's n herat but soon it will be in qanadahar.

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          • #20
            If people wanna boycott Israel then let them, it's better than nothing and 'every little helps'. Those who cry at Talibans violent methods (which I don't agree with either), now laugh at a political, non-violent approach. Geez..

            I can tell you now, that if there was some Asain goods which say funded the Pak army/government or whatever, I bet everyone here would propagate a boycott of that.

            Also, this is about Zionists, not Jews.. Boycotting Israel isn't gonna make the world wide Jewish community suffer, it's the murdering Zionists sitting in Israel who will feel the brunt.

            And are we really gonna compare these photos to Bagram? Cruelty is cruelty wherever the hell it is.
             
            Originally posted by DaZahroJaam View Post
            do you think muslim's of palestine fight with magical skills that doesn't harm any one else? they don't kill innocent civilians?
            They have more than a right right to defend themselves. You can't even compare the casualities on either side; it's rocks and home made missiles against military weapons.

            Thanks for sharing Catya.
            Last edited by Guest; 08-18-2010, 11:51 AM. Reason: *typo

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            • #21
              i wonder how many members here and how many muslims around the world are addicted to cocacola, pepsi and other soft drinks lol

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              • #22
                ^ I think i get the point.

                Then try not buying jewish products.

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                • #23
                  i am not boycotting any one.

                  I am no bird, and no nest ensnares me.

                  non commercial would cost less if he was in charge himself which he plans on doing. right now it's n herat but soon it will be in qanadahar.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Timbaktu
                    We should boycott Isreali products as much as we can. I am not talking about jews but ISREALI made products. I would also suggest we boycott US products and many other products of countries or companies who support the war in Afghanistan/pakhtunkhwa and islamic countries. We have moral obligation to boycott products by comapanies who use unfair methods such as child labour, exploitation of workers, stealing resources of other nations, animal cruelty and so on.

                    I am very lazy myself in this regard and only follow a few aspects such as not buying fur coats and so on and not eating at McDonalds and so on.
                    Gee, thanks. thats like all the products out there.

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                    • #25
                      I avoid buying this i don't need anyways ... its waste of money. but trying to figure out who made every product out there is really crazy ...

                      i watched the movie... it is a good one indeed.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Aseer Jaan
                        Boycotting is not the answer.
                        Spot on.


                        Originally posted by Guley View Post
                        If people wanna boycott Israel then let them, it's better than nothing and 'every little helps'. Those who cry at Talibans violent methods (which I don't agree with either), now laugh at a political, non-violent approach. Geez..

                        I can tell you now, that if there was some Asain goods which say funded the Pak army/government or whatever, I bet everyone here would propagate a boycott of that.

                        Also, this is about Zionists, not Jews.. Boycotting Israel isn't gonna make the world wide Jewish community suffer, it's the murdering Zionists sitting in Israel who will feel the brunt.

                        And are we really gonna compare these photos to Bagram? Cruelty is cruelty wherever the hell it is.
                         

                        They have more than a right right to defend themselves. You can't even compare the casualities on either side; it's rocks and home made missiles against military weapons.

                        Thanks for sharing Catya.


                        Guley, whether we like it or not, these Zionist baby-eating companies employ millions of Muslims around the world. Proctor and Gamble and Unilever are two of the largest employers in Pakistan, employing everyone from sweepers and factory line-workers to MBA and accountancy executives. And they pay way better than our local Muslim employers. A driver working for these companies earns more than Rs. 18,000 a month whereas a regular driver employed by Muslim local companies is paid not more than Rs. 7.000-8,000 a month. We're talking about a country of 180 million faithful here, by the way. Imagine if we all go Jihad on 'Zionist' products, we'll only end up losing out ourselves. Coca Cola and Pepsi sponsor everything here from youth programs, musical programs to sports teams and events. We'd end up losing more than those multinationals:

                        Coca Cola revenue (according to Wiki):

                        * 37% in the United States
                        * 43% in Mexico,India, Brazil, Japan and the People's Republic of China
                        * 20% spread throughout the rest of the world

                        So I guess it would be safe to assume that around 10% of Coca Cola's total net profits come from us. We are far more dependent on them than they are on us. Secondly, multinationals are bound by law to invest, in some cases, 66% of more of their total net profits in the countries that they earn them in. Our poor Third World Muslim countries need that investment BADLY.

                        This is a list of countries that receive foreign direct investment. Note that Saudi Arabia is at number 27 (with a population of 29 million).

                        This is the list of countries that invest abroad, mostly in the Third World. The top 30 investors are kaafir. Of course they get profit out of it but like I said earlier, their investment run our economies because we ourselves don't have anything. If they pull out, we'll become bankrupt(er) and unemployed. India will receive more than US$35 billion this year as FDI. In comparison, Pakistan will get US$4 billion. Tajikistan is the highest recipient of FDI in the Muslim world but it still gets less than Trinidad and Tobago.

                        Now no one here supports Israel's disproportionate use of force or its illegal occupation of the West Bank, East Jerusalem, Golan Heights and its siege of Gaza. However, boycotting consumer good, at best, will prove to the world our irrational and fundamentalist nature. The US government gives Israel around US$2-2.5 billion annually. Should Muslims in the United States stop paying their taxes them because their tax money buys Israeli bullets? Should Muslims in Germany stop paying their taxes because the German state also gives massive amounts of aid to Israel along with the odd nuclear-capable submarine or two?

                        Let's develop our economies and take advantage or every opportunity we have. The Palestinians themselves recognized Israel's right to exist in 1993 but I hear Muslims in Pakistan everyday talking about how the Jewish state should be destroyed. Let's fight our war first.
                        "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be".

                        "Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives".

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                        • #27
                          Update, from same old infamous TIME Magazine.
                          It's quite mild in criticizing the Israeli woman, but does make a few points, such as that she had no idea that anyone would be offended by the outrageously awful pictures she posted.
                          It tells one so much about the insular mentality of many Israelis:

                          "Huh? We're not God's gift to the world? Well there must be something about the rest of the world then.
                          "It could NEVER NEVER NEVER be us Israelis. No, never us. We are civilized and a beacon of democracy to the world, and everyone who matters to us thinks we're tough, intrepid people, Davids fighting against Goliaths and everything we do to this end is allowed."

                          For they see themselves like that.


                          My bet is that a huge fan club starts for this Eden Aberjil. Especially in Israel, but in the U.S. too. Judging by the blase comments made to articles on this by Americans.
                          Most were discussing the former IDF soldier's appearance!
                          Those commentators had nothing to say about the poor Palestinians.
                          Talk about heartless...
                          Out of Israel, An Embarrassing Facebook Post



                          By KARL VICK / JERUSALEM Karl Vick / Jerusalem – 1 hr 12 mins ago
                          So much passes so easily through the permeable membrane separating the brain from the keyboard. But even after she thought about it, [COLOR=#366388 !important][COLOR=#366388 !important]Eden [COLOR=#366388 !important]Aberjil[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR] could not understand all the fuss over her Facebook photo album, the one chronicling her days in the Israel Defense Forces.
                          "IDF - the best time of my life" featured shots of her standing beside some Palestinian men. She was the one in uniform, beaming at the camera. They sat behind her, bound at the wrist and blindfolded, stoic captives as unaware of at least one aspect of their humiliation - the camera - as Aberjil remained after the whole thing went viral.
                          "I don't understand," she told a radio station after the story broke this week. To a newspaper: "I just documented my routine and posted the pictures as a way to remember." (See 25 things I didn't want to know about you.)
                          The latest black eye for Israel was also, of course, a fresh reminder that the Jewish state, so impressive militarily, looks more than a little lost on the global battleground where the winner is decided by public opinion. It's all become a matter of perspective, not to mention situational awareness. "This is one of the major arenas, if not the arena where the whole conflict against Zionism is taking place," says Einat Wilf, a newly elected legislator to the Knessett from the Labor Party, referring to the philosophy behind the [COLOR=#366388 !important][COLOR=#366388 !important]creation [COLOR=#366388 !important]of [/COLOR][COLOR=#366388 !important]Israel[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR]. "And Israel has to win it, as Israel has won all its previous wars. But it will take time." (See Israel on the defensive after the flotilla fiasco.)
                          Wilf, a member of the foreign affairs and defense committee, emphasizes that the degradation of the Palestinian prisoners was morally wrong. She calls for more rigorous ethics training but, she adds, "We need to think about messages. How do we deprive the other side of the images it wants? The other side wants to see images of conflicts with soldiers. We shouldn't give them that."
                          On the day before the Facebook story broke, Naftali Bennett was instructing volunteers on how to edit Wikipedia to feature Israel's perspective higher in, say, the entry for "[COLOR=#366388 !important][COLOR=#366388 !important]Gaza [COLOR=#366388 !important]flotilla[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR]," words countless people typed into search engines May 31 after hearing Israel had killed civilians on a relief ship bound for the embargoed Gaza Strip. "A great example," says Bennett. "For the first ten hours or so, Israel was virtually silent, even though we had footage of terrorists with knives and clubs; these weren't [COLOR=#366388 !important][COLOR=#366388 !important]human [COLOR=#366388 !important]rights [/COLOR][COLOR=#366388 !important]activists[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR], but it took 10 hours to get that out.
                          "Right now Israelis are more and more realizing the real battle isn't the military," says Bennett, who heads an organization of [COLOR=#366388 !important][COLOR=#366388 !important]West [COLOR=#366388 !important]Bank [/COLOR][COLOR=#366388 !important]settlers[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR]. "It's the battle for the minds and hearts of the people of the world, because from the Gaza war to the flotilla, there's a common pattern from one conflict to another to tie Israel's hands more and more. Today one of the biggest threats to Israel is our inability to use our military to protect ourselves because of [COLOR=#366388 !important][COLOR=#366388 !important]international [COLOR=#366388 !important]public [/COLOR][COLOR=#366388 !important]opinion[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR]."
                          The Israeli military was, like Bennett and Wilf, emphatic in condemning Aberjil, who left active service last year. "On the face of it, it appears that this was coarse and ugly behavior by the soldier," the army said in a statement. "This behavior does not reflect IDF values and norms expected of soldiers." But that brought mocking laughter and the release of a flurry of similar Facebook photos from Breaking the Silence, a group of former Israeli soldiers who advocate ending the occupation of Palestinian territories because of what it's doing to the young Israelis enforcing it. "The first time you enter a house in the middle of the night and see the children crying because your face is painted, you feel something, but the next time less, and less and less and slowly, slowly you cross lines you never thought you'd cross," says Yehuda Shaul, one of the group's founders. "This is what needs to be talked about."
                          Shaul told TIME he was taken aback at the outrage over Aberjil's posting, which struck him as remarkably tame. He described duty in a refugee camp eight years ago, when his squad sought out a Palestinian house with a satellite dish, locked the family in the basement and took photos of one another drinking Fanta and watching a World Cup match on the family's TV. "The story is not the image of Israel," says Shaul, "The story is what we do."

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