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    Civilian deaths spark Afghan unrest
    The villagers said that the three brothers were innocent victims rather than Taliban fighters Hundreds of villagers shouted "Death to the United States" as they blocked a main road in eastern Afghanistan after Nato forces killed three people in a raid.

    Elders from Zarin Khil village in Wardak province said US troops stormed into a family house and shot dead three brothers before taking their father into custody, according to a local police chief.
    Shahedullah Shahed, a provincial spokesman, said about 300 protesters blocked the highway linking Kabul and southern Afghanistan for several hours.

    "Last night coalition and Afghan forces went to a house to capture a Taliban commander. During the attack unfortunately three civilians were killed," Shahed told the AFP news agency, adding that four suspected anti-government fighters were captured.
    The Nato-led International Security Assistance Force (Isaf) said those killed in the raid in Sayed Abad district were suspected "insurgents" and a Taliban commander had been detained.
    "There were 12 women and 15 children in the area who were protected. No civilian casualties were reported in our channels," Captain Ryan Donald, an Isaf spokesman, said.

    "An investigation has been launched to find out if civilian casualties have happened."

    Assault force

    Isaf said its troops only opened fire after men in the house had drawn weapons.
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    Villagers said there was no fighting before the troops entered the house.

    "They were sleeping in one room and suddenly the soldiers broke the glass window and they fired on them and killed them," Mahmoud Khan, a relative who lives in the village, was quoted as telling The Associated Press news agency.
    The issue of civilian casualties is sensitive in Afghanistan, where nearly 150,000 foreign troops have been waging a nearly nine-year military campaign.
    The UN said this week that the number of civilian casualties was up one-third in the first half of 2010, with fighters killing seven times more civilians than Nato-led troops.

    However, 386 civilians were killed by Nato or Afghan government forces, including 41 during search-and-seizure operations such as night raids, according to the UN.
    In a incident on Wednesday, a woman was killed in crossfire between Isaf and Taliban forces in the southern province of Helmand , Isaf said.

    Haqqanis targeted
    Meanwhile, the Nato-led force also said it killed more than 20 anti-government fighters during ongoing operations in the eastern province of Paktia.

    "This area is a known Haqqani network safe haven and used to stage attacks into Kabul and the Khost-Gardez pass," Isaf said.
    "An air weapons team suppressed the enemy, resulting in more than 20 insurgents killed so far."
    The Haqqani network, headed by Jalaluddin Haqqani, and his son, is based mainly in Pakistan's North Waziristan and adjoining provinces in Afghanistan. It has staged several high-profile attacks, including an assassination attempt on Hamid Karzai, the Afghan president, in 2008.

  • #2
    Americans fear Haqqani and his group more than they fear Mullah Omar, and the same goes for the Afghan government. His circle is said to be the most ruthless and ideologically motivated fighters....Da wos ye ham pa loya paktia ke tar sogmo rawastalee dee. Majority of the Kabul attacks were also performed by his men e.g. Independence day attack, Serana(multiple times), Information and cultural ministry and many more suicide operations that jolted Kabul.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by pakistani
      That is not true. You have no evidence of what you preach.
      The most deadly US foe in Afghanistan - CSMonitor.com
      Haqqani Network executed Kabul suicide attack - The Long War Journal
      Haqqani behind Kabul terror strike? - South Asia - World - The Times of India
      BBC NEWS | South Asia | Karzai condemns Kabul Nato blast

      Dozens die in Kabul police bus bombing | The Australian
      Coordinated Kabul assault shows Taliban strength - CSMonitor.com
      single - The Jamestown Foundation[swords]=8fd5893941d69d0be3f378576261ae3e&tx_ttnews[any_of_the_words]=haqqani&tx_ttnews[pointer]=1&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=4804&tx_ttnews[backPid]=7&cHash=7ceae20653
      Coordinated Kabul assault shows Taliban strength - CSMonitor.com
      Suicide bomber and gunmen launch attacks in Kabul - Times Online






      oh and to be quite honest, I myself don't trust any of the western sources.
      But since you are so much into evidence, the only evidence that I could think of was links?
      Unless you are willing to meet me in Afghanistan (which I don't recommend for a Pakistani) I can show you and bring you across more valid evidence..as for now, munch on this.
      Dont be mad because Afghans can talk politics now, a couple of years ago, you Pakistanis did that for us. You don't see it coming when we discuss politics huh? Pakistanis always assumed that we are going to be their proxies and that every statement that we made had to be viewed and analysed by Islamabad. Sorry to pop your bubble but our capital is not Islamabad anymore.....

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      • #4
        From Kathy Gannon's article of today "Foreigners Boost Insurgency in Eastern Afghanistan"

        "Longtime smuggling routes through the east link militant sanctuaries in Pakistan with northern provinces such as Kunduz and Baghlan, where insurgent attacks are increasing. Al-Qaida's links to a Taliban faction led by Jalaluddin Haqqani and his son Sirajuddin are believed stronger than with Taliban groups in the south.


        The Haqqani group was believed to have played a major role in the Dec. 30 suicide bombing at a CIA base in the eastern province of Khost that killed seven agency employees."

        Yes, Zarawar is 100 percent correct to distrust the reportage from Western sources, who have such a clear bias or agenda.
        The articles always feel way off base in one way or another. Though I don't know enough to refute them directly.

        Here, the Haqqanis are now being blamed for the CIA base attack which was already long ago - I thought - attributed to Hakimullah Mehsud. Remember the video where he appeared with the Jordanian bomber?

        My guess is that the Haqqanis have been blamed for everything across the board to create an alternate enemy for America to flush out of their strongholds.

        Word got to the American public that maybe Al-Qaeda's strength is overrated [to put it mildly]. One US official said there may be only 100 in Afghanistan now.
        So that deflated all the grandiose claims that Al-Qaeda needs to be wiped out, providing the pretext for a prolonged invasion and brutal tactics. Of course, the name Al-Qaeda feeds into the popular instinct for revenge among Americans.

        Whereas what did the Haqqanis have to do with the most likely Israeli false flag op. of Sept 2001? Zero.
        So they've got to inflate the group's threat.
        Most of these articles like the CSM one listed by Zarawar don't ring true.
        I would like to go find out the truth and be able to back up my argument with more solid facts. I'm sure all sorts of people would give the right perspective which we never hear in the controlled media accounts we are fed daily.

        Just some thoughts that first it was Al-Qaeda, now Haqqanis made into the global terror threat. Sure....!

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        • #5
          He asked for evidence, what do you call evidence?
          I don't watch news etc, I have my own sources, we knew Haqqani from very close.

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          • #6
            Oh yeah? Tell me what you think about him!
            I'm FASCINATED because I was there too. But that was 'the old days'.
            I have no updates at all for long long time.

            I didn't mean to criticize your choice of articles.
            Even the titles reminded me of this incessant campaign to 'demonize' Haqqani and clan into some formidable international bandit.

            I say that's hypocritical, because look what a hero he had been for Americans defending the front lines of the Cold War - IN THEORY.
            No average American ever heard his name, however, nor really much about that war.
            So, it's very easy for the officials and press to pull the wool over the American public's eyes. Because the latter has no background or context in which to place the Haqqani party.
            So they blindly accept whatever they are told. Instead of checking. The only faint praise allowed to creep in to articles is that he was a famed commander against Soviets.
            But no American of today feels grateful for that.
            Most look totally blank when I mention anything whatsoever about the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. I could be talking about pre-historic history for all they know or care!
            Believe me, if the media were more interested to research back there would all sorts of anecdotes from that time to balance whatever it is being claimed now.
            But, surprise, surprise, they are like sheep and never want to delve deeper to evaluate how much of a true threat to United States security is that group.

            I would really be interested to hear whatever you heard. Because I have positive accounts that I gathered back then. But since then, I have no real way to know

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