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    Trump Considers Total Troop Withdrawal in Afghanistan as Strategists Struggle To Combat the Taliban
    TRUMP CONSIDERS TOTAL TROOP WITHDRAWAL IN AFGHANISTAN AS STRATEGISTS STRUGGLE TO COMBAT THE TALIBAN
    BY CALLUM PATON ON 8/1/17 AT 2:59 AM
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    Reservations in the White House on troop levels in Afghanistan have reportedly led the Trump Administration to a point where it is considering withdrawing U.S. troops from the beleaguered country altogether, contrary to recommendations from the Pentagon.

    The Wall Street Journal reported that without managing to green light a plan to send 3,900 more troops to Afghanistan to turn back an advancing Taliban, the White House is instead considering scaling back U.S. presence there.

    One unnamed senior administration official was quoted as saying that the question of U.S. commitment in Afghanistan is a fundamental one for the White House. “It doesn’t work unless we are there for a long time, and if we don’t have the appetite to be there a long time, we should just leave. It’s an unanswered question,” they said.

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    Without a clear strategy set out by defense officials, a schism has opened in the administration. A plan to exert pressure on Pakistan to increase its crackdown on the Taliban while seeking help from the regional powers including China and India and slightly escalating troop numbers by as much as 1,000 has some support.

    “It is becoming clearer and clearer to people that those are the options: go forward with something like the strategy we have developed, or withdraw,” said the senior administration official.

    However, without broad agreement it looks unlikely the U.S. will send forces this summer. The increasing reluctance from the Oval Office has put it at odds with military officials. “[The Plan is] flawed because it doesn’t address the primary concerns of getting to a point where Afghanistan is able to secure itself,” one senior U.S. military official said.

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    U.S. Army General John Nicholson talks to soldiers during a transfer of authority ceremony at Shorab camp, in Helmand province, Afghanistan on April 29, 2017. U.S. marines took over the camp at the end of April for the first time since 2014.
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    The U.S. is not winning in Afghanistan, Defense Secretary Jim Mattis has said and a plan he'd envisaged to be in place by mid-July is yet to materialize despite a series of meetings at the higher echelons.

    At the end of April the U.S. military said it would deploy 1,500 soldiers to Afghanistan in response to attacks by the Islamic State militant group (ISIS) and the Taliban, which continue to threaten the stability of the U.S.-backed government.

    The U.S. currently has 8,500 military personnel to "advise, train and assist missions, including counterterrorism and air support" for local security forces, according to the U.S. Naval Institute.

    According to Reuters ISIS on Monday claimed responsibility for an attack on the Iraqi Embassy in Kabul that began with a suicide bomber blowing himself up at the main gate, which allowed gunmen to enter the building and battle security forces.

    The assault came a week after 35 people were killed in a Taliban attack on government workers in the capital, underlining Afghanistan's precarious security as Washington considers an overhaul of its policy in the region.

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    What some of us have been saying for a long time:
    One unnamed senior administration official was quoted as saying that the question of U.S. commitment in Afghanistan is a fundamental one for the White House. “It doesn’t work unless we are there for a long time, and if we don’t have the appetite to be there a long time, we should just leave. It’s an unanswered question,” they said.
    When the foreign forces leave, hopefully, everyone can sit down and solve their disputes by talking it through instead of a replay of the 90's.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by khushal View Post
      What some of us have been saying for a long time:


      When the foreign forces leave, hopefully, everyone can sit down and solve their disputes by talking it through instead of a replay of the 90's.
      Not going to happen, another civil war will errupt and Afghanistan will be once again a breeding ground for terrorism and barbaric lunatics who wil pass outdated laws what will bring nothing but missery to the general population.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Khostai View Post
        Not going to happen, another civil war will errupt and Afghanistan will be once again a breeding ground for terrorism and barbaric lunatics who wil pass outdated laws what will bring nothing but missery to the general population.
        you have a biased opinion since you are an atheist 'khostai'.
        i mean offcourse you will have a negative predications as you are hoping for it.

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        • #5
          Trump Admin is in chaos right now.
          the firing of another staff who was only on work for 10 days and was officially going to start in august.
          Anthony scaramucci is gone , i guess Trump still thinks he is on celeberity apprentice.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Akbar View Post
            Trump Admin is in chaos right now.
            the firing of another staff who was only on work for 10 days and was officially going to start in august.
            Anthony scaramucci is gone , i guess Trump still thinks he is on celeberity apprentice.
            LOL

            that guy is a clown....in all honesty, I was hoping for Trump's presidency, because I knew he'd screw things up so bad, but there's a Hadith that says that we should not hope the Qiyammah to be hastened......there's a lot of people who may suffer due to Trump and I should not support anyone's suffering.

            Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."


            Originally posted by ذو الفقار
            don’t try to be smart.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Iblis_Efreetzai View Post
              LOL

              that guy is a clown....in all honesty, I was hoping for Trump's presidency, because I knew he'd screw things up so bad, but there's a Hadith that says that we should not hope the Qiyammah to be hastened......there's a lot of people who may suffer due to Trump and I should not support anyone's suffering.
              The media and his lack of refined speech skills may make him look like a clown but all his actions are designed to weaken what Steve Bannon calls the "Administrative State" which he thinks is the source of the elites power structure at the expense of the masses.
              Today humanity has the technology and the resources to stop suffering and if this suffering is increasing then there is something wrong with the World leadership which resides in the West namely America.

              So far none of Trumps actions has increased the suffering of anyone. The only people that are crying are the establishment and that is because he is trying to divert the US Treasury spigot away from them.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Khostai View Post
                Not going to happen, another civil war will errupt and Afghanistan will be once again a breeding ground for terrorism and barbaric lunatics who wil pass outdated laws what will bring nothing but missery to the general population.
                Your just afraid those anti pedophiles laws will be enforced and you can't bribe a judge to get out of jail.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Akbar View Post
                  you have a biased opinion since you are an atheist 'khostai'.
                  i mean offcourse you will have a negative predications as you are hoping for it.
                  I do not, I am just realistic, there are so many groups in Afghanistan now, its not just the goverment versus the talibs, taliban is not one group they also have several groups and you also have ISIS now in the east and not to forget the warlords who are in the goverment.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by khushal View Post
                    Your just afraid those anti pedophiles laws will be enforced and you can't bribe a judge to get out of jail.
                    If you can not say somehing civilized, say nothing at all. Calling names just shows your own low character and lack of manners and culture.

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                    • #11
                      Afghanistan cannot move forward until the invaders leave. Whether it's able to move forward or not is another question, but an irrelevant one until America is gone. This may be the best decision of Trump's presidency if he has the courage to go through with it. Though some speculate the pullout will be accompanied by the hiring of Blackwater to take the US military's place, so it might not all be good news.

                      Originally posted by khushal View Post
                      What some of us have been saying for a long time:


                      When the foreign forces leave, hopefully, everyone can sit down and solve their disputes by talking it through instead of a replay of the 90's.
                      Honestly, that's wishful thinking. What'll most likely happen is the government will collapse, with some of the warlords who dominate Afghanistan will flee to the Middle East or Europe, taking the millions and billions they stole with them, while others will start fighting each other, with the Taliban eventually sweeping up and taking over most of the country. Not sure if they'll be able to take over the most anti-Taliban areas, but the Pashtun areas and Kabul are almost certain to fall to them.

                      The Taliban have basically no reason to negotiate, while the central government is already teetering on the brink of collapse.

                      Originally posted by Khostai View Post
                      Not going to happen, another civil war will errupt and Afghanistan will be once again a breeding ground for terrorism and barbaric lunatics who wil pass outdated laws what will bring nothing but missery to the general population.
                      None of those "outdated laws" will bring as much misery as the bombs and bullets of your beloved invaders.

                      Originally posted by Khostai View Post
                      I do not, I am just realistic, there are so many groups in Afghanistan now, its not just the goverment versus the talibs, taliban is not one group they also have several groups and you also have ISIS now in the east and not to forget the warlords who are in the goverment.
                      The Taliban are a lot more united than the Mujahideen groups were, and ISIS is basically a non-factor boogeyman that is used to scare people into thinking there's still value to the US occupying Afghanistan.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by maneatinglizard View Post

                        Honestly, that's wishful thinking. What'll most likely happen is the government will collapse, with some of the warlords who dominate Afghanistan will flee to the Middle East or Europe, taking the millions and billions they stole with them, while others will start fighting each other, with the Taliban eventually sweeping up and taking over most of the country. Not sure if they'll be able to take over the most anti-Taliban areas, but the Pashtun areas and Kabul are almost certain to fall to them.

                        The Taliban have basically no reason to negotiate, while the central government is already teetering on the brink of collapse.
                        Since the Trumps presidency with its hands off approach, the NA warlords have been sidelined and are currently crying in Mazar. Dostom cant even enter the country. This is a different situation from the 90's.

                        In the 90's, Dostom betrayed Najib and gave Kabul to Masoud which is what triggered the fragmentation of the Afghan Army along ethnic lines and the collapse of the Afghan State.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by khushal View Post
                          The media and his lack of refined speech skills may make him look like a clown but all his actions are designed to weaken what Steve Bannon calls the "Administrative State" which he thinks is the source of the elites power structure at the expense of the masses.
                          Today humanity has the technology and the resources to stop suffering and if this suffering is increasing then there is something wrong with the World leadership which resides in the West namely America.

                          So far none of Trumps actions has increased the suffering of anyone. The only people that are crying are the establishment and that is because he is trying to divert the US Treasury spigot away from them.

                          I remember you said Trump's presidency will be a blow to the military industry complex, and now realize how true it is.

                          Sen Tim Cotton, former US soldier who served in Afghanistan, and a war hawk, has not even got the courage to challenge Trump. These neocons are dazed.

                          Since Trump enjoys a lot of support from his base, I think he will get his way on his "America First" policy, and Afghanistan will be better once war ends
                          "The past is not my concern. The future is no longer my concern either. One minute. One minute of everything at once. And anything before is nothing. Everything after nothing. Nothing in comparison to that one minute."

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                          • #14
                            Trump for President 2020!
                            "The past is not my concern. The future is no longer my concern either. One minute. One minute of everything at once. And anything before is nothing. Everything after nothing. Nothing in comparison to that one minute."

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Akbar View Post
                              you have a biased opinion since you are an atheist 'khostai'.
                              i mean offcourse you will have a negative predications as you are hoping for it.
                              Khostai is correct. Political Islam and Sharia are not a solution. Rather would lead to greater disaster. A good solution would be for all to sit together and decide what is in the interest of the people.

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