Berlin attacker was a 23-year-old Pakistani: German media

[Firdousi]

I never blamed all of the miseries of the Pashtun nation on others. Do I think the Pakistani government is responsible for our current state? Yes. However, Pakistan's forces would never be able to train little Pashtuns in becoming suicide bombers in madrassahs of Pakistan, if our people didn't allow their children to be there in the first place.

I obviously, needless to say, blame Pashtuns as well for our current state of affairs. There's a lack of leadership, and the minute you say something, baseless assumptions and generalizations are spewed, some of which we witnessed in this very thread (when are your kin leaving, etc).


I don't engage in blaming Tajiks, or Punjabis. Those ordinary folks mean no harm, just like how an ordinary Pashtun just focuses on his livelihood and helping others. But to deny the role of Pakistan in our misery, is a travesty of justice.

Admin Khan, we all do agree that Pakistan is a cancer for the entire region. We all have suffered badly because of them. But there are some facts that we shouldn't ignore:

1) Afghanistan always had a wrong policy toward Pakistan. We were the only country in the world that refused to recognize officially Pakistan.

2) Pakistan indeed did a "good" job by brainwashing Pashtuns. My point is: they tried the same thing with Baluchs yet they failed miserably. Why? Why Pashtuns are more inclined toward extremism than other ethnic groups such as Baluchs or Tajiks?

[Admin Khan]

Admin Khan, we all do agree that Pakistan is a cancer for the entire region. We all have suffered badly because of them. But there are some facts that we shouldn't ignore:

1) Afghanistan always had a wrong policy toward Pakistan. We were the only country in the world that refused to recognize officially Pakistan.

2) Pakistan indeed did a "good" job by brainwashing Pashtuns. My point is: they tried the same thing with Baluchs yet they failed miserably. Why? Why Pashtuns are more inclined toward extremism than other ethnic groups such as Baluchs or Tajiks?

1) If you read my previous posts in this thread, you'll notice I mentioned both Kabul and Islamabad has blood on its hands. I don't think Afghanistan is the savior of Pashtuns.

2) I'd say the combination of illiteracy and misrepresentation of religion. Pashtun's are very religious people. As egregious as the idea is, if you tell some Pashtuns it's for religion, with some nice propaganda baked into it, they will give it a shot.

I'd refrain from generalizing all Pashtuns as the aforementioned, but we've suffered more than any other ethnicity in the past 15 years or longer as a result of being ignorant.

Caveat: we can blame the Saudis or Wahhabis as much as we want; but at the end of the day, it is us who has given them a free pass on our territory with our people.

[khushal]

It was the pashtunistan policy that triggered the destruction.

The Paki army and the tajik warlords have no ideology to stand on therefore use "prostitute" tactics to survive.

[khushal]

I'm certain you weren't referring to me, because that would mean at best you mis-quoted,

there was no misquote. you said kin

[Elite Pakhtun]

some of which we witnessed in this very thread (when are your kin leaving, etc).

Who said that?

If it was referring to my post, I assume it's a misquote. You should know it has the effect of tarnishing my (fake online) reputation. Your past posts depict a somewhat neutral guy, so I think it's a fair assumption on my part that it was merely a misquote.

[Elite Pakhtun]

there was no misquote. you said kin

That's probably the only accurate part of the quote.

[Admin Khan]

Who said that?

Don't be so paranoid; I already gave you a strong rebuttal to your pathetic invocation of the deportation of my "kin". If I had more to say to you, I would quote you directly; fair to say, my initial rebuke to your silly statement suffices, and holds for now.

If it was referring to my post, I assume it's a misquote. You should know it has the effect of tarnishing my (fake online) reputation. Your past posts depict a somewhat neutral guy, so I think it's a fair assumption on my part that it was merely a misquote.

Stop worrying about your reputation, and focus more on the logic behind what you say, especially how you might appear when you utter such diatribes. Saying things alone the lines of "what does it say about your kin who would rather not be deported from Pak" without knowing anything about me, should be bothering you mentally; my kin does inhabit Pakistan by the way, we are the 2nd largest ethnic group in that hellhole of a nation.

And no, it was not a misquote, in fact, it was never a quote to begin with, it was merely a high level analysis of the type of things most brainwashed Pashtuns have been uttering in threads like these over the past few years; you merely mentioned a derivative of it. I never said you uttered those words, so no need to get defensive - you somehow felt like I was attacking you, but if you analyze my past, I directly quote people when I have something to say; sort of what I did with you earlier.

I trust you mean well.

Best,