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This is why I am Kind of advocating we Afghans, create our own Islamic sect to curb ourselv and our youth from joining terrorist organisations....Islam promotes too much Arabism....the root cause of terrorism is Arabism....take out Arabism from Islam, and I can assure you there Will not be terrorism in this Region...
, yes its true Islam is just a religion, but some parts of Quran can indeed be used to brainwash people to harm other human beings simply for not having same Faith or beliefs...Last edited by Dmsn; 12-20-2016, 11:39 AM. -
The suspect is still not arrested"[B][SIZE="3"]Seer Speen Wazeer[/SIZE][/B]"Comment
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o dear.Last edited by DaZahroJaam.; 12-20-2016, 01:41 PM.
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They say Pakistan and India both export IT. India exports Information Technology, and for Pakistan International Terrorism.
Pakistan will remain the capital of terrorism for years to come.Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.
A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai
For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."
The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!
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I always hear this without any examples (the one in this thread is still hanging for the moment). A lot of people say this would like to know more specifics, how does Pakistan export terrorism more than others.Originally posted by Admin Khan View Post----------
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Alaka, what does it say about your kin who would rather not be deported from Pak?Originally posted by Admin Khan View Post
Besides, he was released. Insufficient evidence.Comment
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Countries like Pakistan or India has no option but to push proxy war.We survive on thisOriginally posted by Admin Khan View Post
Anyway the Pakistani suspect is already released with the real suspect yet to be arrested."[B][SIZE="3"]Seer Speen Wazeer[/SIZE][/B]"Comment
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It was a Tunisian guy that conveniently left his passport in the truck. YET AGAIN.----------
*You cannot climb the ladder of success with your hands in your pockets*
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Originally posted by Da Bannu Mazdigar View Post
Graana,
I acknowledge this; I know both Pakistan, India, and as of recent Afghanistan, uses terrorism as a foreign policy.
I'm concerned about my people and the fact is that Pashtuns have suffered the most as of the result of terrorism-oriented foreign policies of Pakistan and others.Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.
A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai
For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."
The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!
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I thought this was an incredibly stupid comment, and I almost wanted to ignore it, but since I'm in a lovely mood, I'll reply.Originally posted by Elite Pakhtun View Post
My kin are Pashtun, Pakistan and Afghanistan are both states made on the homeland of my kin, Pashtuns. Your deportation point makes no sense. A Pashtun of Swat should not be deported, and if deported, where should they be deported to? Is this some new terrorism based Pakistani foreign policy? I don't know, but cut it off.
I don't give a rats rear about Pakistan or Afghanistan; Pashtun lands are my only concern, and Pakistani policies have made my "kin" suffer, and remain backwards.Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.
A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai
For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."
The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!
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I appreciate your honesty Manzareh; at the very least you acknowledge that Pakistan exports terrorism. Frankly, I don't think Pakistan exports terrorism more so than say, Israel, or even Iran. But, Pashtuns have suffered the most as a result of Pakistan's export of terrorism, as in:Originally posted by Manzareh View Post
A) Brainwashing of Pashtun children to become suicide bombers (most Madrassahs are in Pakistan)
B) International experts agree that Pakistan supports internationally recognized terrorist groups
Most importantly, we are viewed as a stupid race in both Pakistan and Afghanistan. Go visit Karachi and Kabul, and you'll see my point. We are Akharowt (Walnut) in Karachi, and other labels in Kabul.
Franky, as you know, I don't give two damns about the governments of Pakistan or Afghanistan; I only care about my people, and it's no surprise that as a result of Pakistani policies, Pashtuns have suffered and had casualties that are unparalleled. It hurts me when I see Pashtuns of Pakistan, or trained in Pakistan, so brainwashed, they are trying to blow up people in NYC (Faisal Shahzad, Najibullah Zazi, etc). Without a doubt, Pakistan is synonymous with terrorism (Osama Bin Laden, and others).
I'm sure that makes you sad as well. Kabul and Islamabad both has Pashtun blood on its hands.Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.
A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai
For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."
The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!
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No. Nobody from Swat is being "deported". I was referring to Afghan refugees, not Pashtuns specifically. It was in response to the Pakistan comment.Originally posted by Admin Khan View Post
Yes, I agree, it has. But to a certain degree, some (albeit people may argue they are a few) have succeeded in Pakistan. The number of Pashtuns in Pakistan has also gone up relative to the population (adjusted for Bangladesh division). In Karachi they dominate the transportation business. In Islamabad, there are Pashtuns everywhere.I don't give a rats rear about Pakistan or Afghanistan; Pashtun lands are my only concern, and Pakistani policies have made my "kin" suffer, and remain backwards.
Having said that, yes you're right, there's much to be desired. However, do keep in mind that the Maddrassahs are funded by Wahabis. Their teachings are 100% Wahabi. In essence, Pakistan is a prostitute to Wahabis. Bund-jabis, are giving their bund to Wahabis. You'll notice many of the Bunjdabi wahabis would never live in Taliban rule themselves, but the love to talk about how awesome it is.
The reason I responded the way I did was because the Pakistani person was already released due to insufficient evidence, and still there jabs being made. Sure, Pakistan is a prostitute to the Wahabis. But that was a random cheap shot. It had the aura of spin doctory to it. Attempted propaganda, if you will. Perhaps I misread, and was quick to judge, and if I'm mistaken, I apologize... but at surface, it looks like a similar stupid comment. It does me no favors at all. It's hard enough, given Pakistan's poor reputation. That post just reminded me of all the Indians who blame everything bad under the sun on Pakistan.
And guess what dude? **** rolls downhill. I may have nothing to do with Paksitan's terrible decisions. I may even be against it... but guess where the **** lands?
Hope that clears things up.Last edited by Elite Pakhtun; 12-22-2016, 04:02 AM.Comment
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Good points, Admin Khan. But try not to blame on others all your miseries. I am pretty sure Pashtuns are to be blamed too. Its a war. No one is innocent except the average civilian (Pashtun or non Pashtun I don't care).Originally posted by Admin Khan View Post"For thirty years, I endured much pain and strife,
I awaken the Ajam by this Persian [language]. "
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I never blamed all of the miseries of the Pashtun nation on others. Do I think the Pakistani government is responsible for our current state? Yes. However, Pakistan's forces would never be able to train little Pashtuns in becoming suicide bombers in madrassahs of Pakistan, if our people didn't allow their children to be there in the first place.Originally posted by Firdousi View Post
I obviously, needless to say, blame Pashtuns as well for our current state of affairs. There's a lack of leadership, and the minute you say something, baseless assumptions and generalizations are spewed, some of which we witnessed in this very thread (when are your kin leaving, etc).
I don't engage in blaming Tajiks, or Punjabis. Those ordinary folks mean no harm, just like how an ordinary Pashtun just focuses on his livelihood and helping others. But to deny the role of Pakistan in our misery, is a travesty of justice.Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.
A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai
For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."
The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!
-Ferishta, 1560–1620Comment
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